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Post by XIII on Dec 19, 2022 22:16:34 GMT -5
We still need to keep in consideration that for the majority of the world the WWE is still the #1 wrestling company and having the machine behind you is a big deal. Hard to be mad at someone for wanting to be able to stay in America too. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 19, 2022 22:22:01 GMT -5
I feel like he had a bigger ceiling away from WWE and in New Japan, but I guess more money and working under HHH is a better deal in his eyes, whatever, it's his decision
But I am not hyped for him being Miz's bodyguard at all. Being Miz's lackey hasn't exactly been a great starting point for careers, mainly because it also always has to end with a Miz feud, and I'm gonna be honest, Miz feuds have been dire as f*** for awhile now. So I'm just not jazzed about it at all. Also sucks the crowd gave him zero reaction because they just didn't know who he was.
That all being said, that was one of the worst Ladder Matches of recent memory if not one of the worst ever period. Crowd was dead for it, it didn't need to happen for an already desperately played out feud. Two guys who do not do high flying moves should not be asked to carry a LADDER MATCH like that... it just was doomed to fail from the jump. And Lumis' strengths are definitely just... not in the wrestling department...
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Dec 19, 2022 22:27:08 GMT -5
I feel like he had a bigger ceiling away from WWE and in New Japan, but I guess more money and working under HHH is a better deal in his eyes, whatever, it's his decision But I am not hyped for him being Miz's bodyguard at all. Being Miz's lackey hasn't exactly been a great starting point for careers, mainly because it also always has to end with a Miz feud, and I'm gonna be honest, Miz feuds have been dire as f*** for awhile now. So I'm just not jazzed about it at all. Also sucks the crowd gave him zero reaction because they just didn't know who he was. That all being said, that was one of the worst Ladder Matches of recent memory if not one of the worst ever period. Crowd was dead for it, it didn't need to happen for an already desperately played out feud. Two guys who do not do high flying moves should not be asked to carry a LADDER MATCH like that... it just was doomed to fail from the jump. And Lumis' strengths are definitely just... not in the wrestling department... I think Hunter really wanted to do more with him before JONAH got hit with the dreaded Budget Cutter. A Miz association is hardly ideal, yes, but I' gonna hope for the best here just because I like the guy.
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Post by The Blue Nova on Dec 19, 2022 22:28:04 GMT -5
If Bronson Can make more money in WWE and be able to wrestle in the states closer to him. Im not going to hate on a guy for what he needs to do for himself. I am a huge Bronson reed fan I just think like others said. having him debut as Miz heavy isn't going to help him as sadly being Miz heavy is buzzkill. I think if booked right he could be a great addition back
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 19, 2022 22:29:16 GMT -5
I don't think being paired with Miz is really much of a kiss of death or anything but being involved with this feud kind of is. Feels like it'd be better for all parties involved to just do a stupid tag match then finally be done with it.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 19, 2022 22:44:58 GMT -5
Should of added /sarcasm. I guess some people don’t grasp it But Nope, far from it. If he chooses to go to WWE and make money, then that shouldn’t count against him. He ain’t doing nonthing wrong I have no real opinion on this subject, but missing the sarcasm back here is so funny.
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 19, 2022 23:09:16 GMT -5
Just one random thing to wonder in all this:
Depending on injury severity, where will Ciampa fit into all this? Side with his old friend or his recent "mentor"?
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Post by Fade on Dec 19, 2022 23:14:44 GMT -5
Just one random thing to wonder in all this: Depending on injury severity, where will Ciampa fit into all this? Side with his old friend or his recent "mentor"? He’s got to come back with Miz and Reed. At least initially.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2022 23:24:59 GMT -5
Cool I guess.
I’ll be honest. I was never all that impressed by his NJPW stuff so it’s no big loss.
Although. I can’t imagine something I want to see less than a Dexter Lumis/Bronson Reed program
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 19, 2022 23:30:47 GMT -5
Booking a ladder match between these two after already seeing them wrestle once just seems like actively playing to their weaknesses.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Dec 19, 2022 23:33:11 GMT -5
I’m so dumb. I’m going “hey that guy looks like Jonah!” :facepalm:
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 19, 2022 23:34:09 GMT -5
We still need to keep in consideration that for the majority of the world the WWE is still the #1 wrestling company and having the machine behind you is a big deal. Hard to be mad at someone for wanting to be able to stay in America too. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I mean, dude's Australian. Does he have any special reason to want to be in the US besides his current job? Significant other or he put down roots or something?
I wonder how big the difference in pay is between NJPW and WWE because I can't imagine there's a whole lot of difference for someone of Bronson's level when he was just a NXT guy beforehand and getting a fairly decent push in NJPW (they love gaijin monsters after all). Unless Triple H is convincing Nick Khan to throw the big bucks at everyone who was budget cut to come back even if they weren't high on the previous pay tier.
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Post by hyperstorm on Dec 19, 2022 23:52:30 GMT -5
Hard to be mad at someone for wanting to be able to stay in America too. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I mean, dude's Australian. Does he have any special reason to want to be in the US besides his current job? Significant other or he put down roots or something He lives in Florida with his wife.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 20, 2022 0:04:30 GMT -5
Dude made the choice he wanted to make, and he’ll live with it. And we’ll have to as well. The initial direction might not be all that inspired, but he won’t be in that role forever.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 20, 2022 0:08:48 GMT -5
We still need to keep in consideration that for the majority of the world the WWE is still the #1 wrestling company and having the machine behind you is a big deal. The way people act about anyone signing anywhere or leaving a company is like if the wrestler in question went to their house and kicked their dog down a flight of stairs.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 20, 2022 0:19:13 GMT -5
I mean, dude's Australian. Does he have any special reason to want to be in the US besides his current job? Significant other or he put down roots or something He lives in Florida with his wife. Well, that's that then. Can't blame him for wanting to not have to take international flights from Japan to the US all the time to get between work and home.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 20, 2022 0:19:22 GMT -5
I get why people would be annoyed with JONAH because, yeah, it could easily be seen as ungrateful behavior. NJPW got behind him, and he ditched them. It's kind of hard to spin that as not kind of shitty from the standpoint of a NJPW fan, I'm sure.
Now, there are a ton of reasons why he could choose to do that. Maybe the international travel wasn't his thing, or maybe Triple H made him big promises and/or wrote him big checks. He probably will be making more money.
That said, I hope Triple H keeps his promises if he's made any, because this also could end up going down as one of the dumber business decisions a wrestler has made in some time if he ends up sputtering out within 6 months and being one of a pile of generic big guys. I hope that isn't going to be what happens because it's better for everyone's sake if this ends up working out, but he wouldn't be the first, second, or third big guy who bombed when WWE gave them cookie cutter bodyguard roles.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 20, 2022 0:19:56 GMT -5
We still need to keep in consideration that for the majority of the world the WWE is still the #1 wrestling company and having the machine behind you is a big deal. The way people act about anyone signing anywhere or leaving a company is like if the wrestler in question went to their house and kicked their dog down a flight of stairs. The fact is, most wrestlers aren’t such massive marks for themselves that they’ll decide who signs their paychecks based on the biggest stars the bookerman writes them to beat. This shit isn’t real, and there are way too many of us who either act like it is on behalf of the wrestlers or get offended that THEY don’t get offended. Everyone loves to quote Kevin Nash like he’s some sort of oracle, isn’t he the one who said “There’s only two things real in wrestling, the money and the miles”? I can only assume Jermaine Haley must’ve found a balance of those more to his preference by signing the WWE deal than he would’ve continuing the New Japan deal.
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Post by Schizo on Dec 20, 2022 0:21:03 GMT -5
We still need to keep in consideration that for the majority of the world the WWE is still the #1 wrestling company and having the machine behind you is a big deal. The way people act about anyone signing anywhere or leaving a company is like if the wrestler in question went to their house and kicked their dog down a flight of stairs. This line of thinking has been going on for a while, even back then with the likes of Daniel Bryan or KO resigning with WWE people here took it personal and be all “he needs to go to Japan or the Indy’s” like. WHY? Like, don’t bash on a talent just for making a career choice that they feel they need to make. It shouldn’t hold no barring on anyone except the talent on where they choose to work.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Dec 20, 2022 0:22:29 GMT -5
The match was terrible but at least the payoff was worth the slog.
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