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Post by sportatorium on Dec 20, 2022 12:08:43 GMT -5
Jonah went from beating Okada in the G1 to being The Miz's bodyguard. Paycheck aside, that's an insane downgrade. This was his introduction and he'll have plenty of chances to wrestle. His eventual turn on Miz should be great for him as Miz goes out of his way to put wrestlers over. Bronson/Jonah is an incredible talent and if this doesn't work, then ok he should have stayed in NJPW.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Dec 20, 2022 12:29:10 GMT -5
I mean, dude's Australian. Does he have any special reason to want to be in the US besides his current job? Significant other or he put down roots or something He lives in Florida with his wife.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 20, 2022 12:36:30 GMT -5
With Bronson much like with Kross I do feel these were moves that basically are Hunter trying to prove that Vince was wrong to dump both with almost no effort. Now I do think Bronson will have a bit more luck long term because unlike Kross he was getting positively received by the fans in NXT before his release, and I also think Bronson is just more impressive in the ring.
I do feel kind of bad for Dexter cause I know people are fans of his but this is another angle that I feel they're making up as they go along and I'm convinced Triple H had a different plan and it didn't work how he expected (similar to how I'm convinced Damage CTRL was formed to go against Bianca, Sasha, and Naomi).
Also just seems like a waste of Gargano
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 20, 2022 13:01:53 GMT -5
So JONAH wants to be a directionless bodyguard instead of wrestling Okada. HHH must have the persuasion skills of Satan in the Garden of Eden. Eat shit, JONAH. Enjoy midcard hell. I agree. Does everyone have to be motivated by money?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 20, 2022 13:11:50 GMT -5
Twitter user doesn’t know people live in places outside of the USA
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 20, 2022 13:22:46 GMT -5
These redebuts are getting too much. Put some hype around a return with vignettes. Bronson Reed is a guy who definitely would’ve benefitted from a few weeks of vignettes before debuting
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 20, 2022 13:27:50 GMT -5
He lives in Florida with his wife. Well, that's that then. Can't blame him for wanting to not have to take international flights from Japan to the US all the time to get between work and home.
I think it was Gallows and Anderson who said that you lose years of your life on those flights to and from Japan. Just real miserable stuff.
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Post by SneakMan on Dec 20, 2022 13:30:50 GMT -5
Twitter user doesn’t know people live in places outside of the USA A) I'm extremely weirded out that Bixenspan and myself said the same thing in nearly the exact same way. B) I loathe the myopia of "fans" like the one in the reply. Just the worst type of deluded fanboy.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 20, 2022 13:31:26 GMT -5
Twitter user doesn’t know people live in places outside of the USA No, he's right, if you watch any New Japan show it's all in a black box without much of a crowd. Fun fact; they loaned it to AEW for the Japan division of the women's tournament.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 20, 2022 13:41:56 GMT -5
Somewhat surprised Bronson came back especially with New Japan launching a promotion in Australia/New Zealand but Hunter has been after him for awhile. But nobody was saying that ladder match. The crowd was dead. I get Dexter had a following in NXT but this whole run since he got rehired is really exposing his limits. I know there are rumors that Triple H has been underwhelmed by some of the resignings but I think it's more of a case of him overeating where some guys were in ring I'm going to stop you there about Lumis and the NXT following cuz you could say that for most NXT talent. They have an audience that is disconnected from the larger WWE crowd that does not pay attention to the sheets or have likely never visited an independent show, so we have seen time and time again the struggle for NXT wrestlers to find their niche in the main roster. That said, I know that Lumis is extremely limited which was what made a lot of his TNA stuff tedious to go back to, but he has been saddled with the Miz for how long now? 5 months? And a good chunk of it was around Miz's alleged giant scrotum. Even so, that was one of the worst ladder matches in that company, where people were only popping for weapons due to the weapons being used. Let’s be clear about one thing. Miz was saddled with Lumis, that’s very clear after last night. Miz did everything he could, and so has Gargano. Even they can’t work miracles.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 20, 2022 13:44:18 GMT -5
Lumis is a character. He needs a constant stream of storytelling to keep him interesting because that is what largely got him over in NXT...it damn sure was not his wrestling which he is perfectly fine at but his bread and butter is character work , vingettes etc. It is difficult to pull it off with not only larger but weekly different audiences who may or may not like his schtick or even understand it. But wrestling long matches like he did lastnight is not to his favor...or maybe it was because the Miz is also not someone that should be in a 1 on 1 ladder match as his ability for anti-gravity everything is almost on par with Becky. His match with Ziggler was very solid.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 20, 2022 13:49:51 GMT -5
Well, that's that then. Can't blame him for wanting to not have to take international flights from Japan to the US all the time to get between work and home.
I think it was Gallows and Anderson who said that you lose years of your life on those flights to and from Japan. Just real miserable stuff. Yeah the only way it works out is if you're actually living in Japan, and that has its own difficulties associated with it. It would've been a lot less taxing if he was still based out of Australia because that's a much shorter trip than East Coast USA. But still I can't blame him for taking the WWE deal even if NJPW was going to pay him more.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 20, 2022 13:53:10 GMT -5
I'm going to stop you there about Lumis and the NXT following cuz you could say that for most NXT talent. They have an audience that is disconnected from the larger WWE crowd that does not pay attention to the sheets or have likely never visited an independent show, so we have seen time and time again the struggle for NXT wrestlers to find their niche in the main roster. That said, I know that Lumis is extremely limited which was what made a lot of his TNA stuff tedious to go back to, but he has been saddled with the Miz for how long now? 5 months? And a good chunk of it was around Miz's alleged giant scrotum. Even so, that was one of the worst ladder matches in that company, where people were only popping for weapons due to the weapons being used. Let’s be clear about one thing. Miz was saddled with Lumis, that’s very clear after last night. Miz did everything he could, and so has Gargano. Even they can’t work miracles. Like I said earlier, you pair someone up with Miz because he's gonna get his opponent over. But a ladder match is not something Dexter can really work in
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Dec 20, 2022 13:54:44 GMT -5
I have never seen a ladder match go that slow before in my life and I hope to never see that ever again.
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Post by Schizo on Dec 20, 2022 14:04:56 GMT -5
So JONAH wants to be a directionless bodyguard instead of wrestling Okada. HHH must have the persuasion skills of Satan in the Garden of Eden. Eat shit, JONAH. Enjoy midcard hell. I agree. Does everyone have to be motivated by money? How exactly is that a bad thing? I mean, that’s kind of how people make a living
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 20, 2022 14:13:59 GMT -5
You can really tell who’s actually a regular NJPW viewer and who casually checks in by the reaction to him going back.
OH THEY PUT HIM OVER OKADA AND HE LEFT!
Okada also lost to Yano and Lance Archer in that same G1, homie. lol. Foreigners get short runs and dip in and out all the time.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 20, 2022 14:14:33 GMT -5
So JONAH wants to be a directionless bodyguard instead of wrestling Okada. HHH must have the persuasion skills of Satan in the Garden of Eden. Eat shit, JONAH. Enjoy midcard hell. I agree. Does everyone have to be motivated by money? Even if he 100% decided it based on deciding better WWE money is more important to him than wrestling Okada, which isn't something we know, who are you to say he shouldn't hold those motivations? What position does anyone have to chide a guy for going for money over fictional accolades and prestige with no thoughts to why someone may have made those decisions? There's being bummed by it and then there's this stuff, which is deeply unhealthy at every turn.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 20, 2022 14:20:22 GMT -5
So JONAH wants to be a directionless bodyguard instead of wrestling Okada. HHH must have the persuasion skills of Satan in the Garden of Eden. Eat shit, JONAH. Enjoy midcard hell. I agree. Does everyone have to be motivated by money? So what if he is? He's a grown man who can decide what his priorities are.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 20, 2022 14:22:26 GMT -5
You can really tell who’s actually a regular NJPW viewer and who casually checks in by the reaction to him going back. OH THEY PUT HIM OVER OKADA AND HE LEFT! Okada also lost to Yano and Lance Archer in that same G1, homie. lol. Foreigners get short runs and dip in and out all the time. Yeah getting a win over a star in the G1 doesn’t seem like an exclusive club to be in. That was also over 4 months ago.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 20, 2022 14:23:19 GMT -5
So JONAH wants to be a directionless bodyguard instead of wrestling Okada. HHH must have the persuasion skills of Satan in the Garden of Eden. Eat shit, JONAH. Enjoy midcard hell. I agree. Does everyone have to be motivated by money? It’s fine for you to have different priorities, but I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to tell him what his priorities should be.
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