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Post by deezy on Mar 9, 2023 19:44:06 GMT -5
Just because a segment didn't get a good number or a lower number one random week does not mean that "No one cares about this and they need to end it". This should be Ratings Thread Rule #1 at this point. Meh, people fairly regularly use quarter hours to say 'x is a draw', so it should work both ways. Really the correct thing to do for every wrestling show is to shrug and go 'yep, that's a rating', but there wouldn't be much point in having a thread about them if that were the case. I've always felt the same way. It should work both ways if you're going to do that.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 9, 2023 19:45:36 GMT -5
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if people (the ones who do) who act like a "low" rating, even if it's often, is actually enough for WBD to legit cancel them. AEW would be a hot commodity for any channel without ties to WWE and it's abundantly clear that the network wants them. Besides Dynamite, you've got Dark, we've had Cody's horseshit show, supposedly Darby's gonna be doing something, All Access is coming soon and that trademark for the Women's show is likely meant for network television as well.
I understand the merit for discussion about the ratings and stuff but I've said 1000 times that Nielsen ratings specifically are a relic of a figure to go by when you consider how people consume TV anymore. Yes, it has its place but I don't see AEW being in any jeopardy at all unless we're talking like, week over week of sub 500k (which if im not mistaken was the number WBD had as the goal post to consider the show a success in the beginning.)
Oh well. This is basically the same post I always make in these threads so I guess here's anotha one.
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Post by tuckerguy on Mar 9, 2023 19:58:10 GMT -5
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if people (the ones who do) who act like a "low" rating, even if it's often, is actually enough for WBD to legit cancel them. AEW would be a hot commodity for any channel without ties to WWE and it's abundantly clear that the network wants them. Besides Dynamite, you've got Dark, we've had Cody's horseshit show, supposedly Darby's gonna be doing something, All Access is coming soon and that trademark for the Women's show is likely meant for network television as well. I understand the merit for discussion about the ratings and stuff but I've said 1000 times that Nielsen ratings specifically are a relic of a figure to go by when you consider how people consume TV anymore. Yes, it has its place but I don't see AEW being in any jeopardy at all unless we're talking like, week over week of sub 500k (which if im not mistaken was the number WBD had as the goal post to consider the show a success in the beginning.) Oh well. This is basically the same post I always make in these threads so I guess here's anotha one. Thank you. The show isn't going off the air anytime soon.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 9, 2023 19:59:46 GMT -5
I think ratings are certainly something to be conscious of, since they can at least give an idea of the overall health and forward momentum of the company and reflect when there is and isn't as much interest in what's going on, but they certainly aren't in a position where they're going to live and die by the week to week, especially when you've got NBA around as a good reason why they'd dip.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 9, 2023 20:08:05 GMT -5
It is a foreign concept to me that there is real sports and fake sports crossover in audiences
I just have 0 interest in real sports and the same goes for most of my family
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Post by Cyno on Mar 9, 2023 20:08:29 GMT -5
People actually take the "The Bunny is the true tribal chief. Acknowledge her" meme as serious discourse?
But yeah, quarter hour breakdowns are no real indicator of who a draw is and who isn't. Quarter hour fluctuations have a lot more to do with what else is on at the time.
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 9, 2023 20:08:41 GMT -5
Dynamite always entertains me, so I don't really care about ratings. At this point I also don't think Warner's worried about them either, they seem completely infatuated with them, and coming from a Network that's cancelling/cutting anything that so much sneezes wrong, that's very good Yeah the only.time thered be concern is if Dynamite is doing Rampage ratings then doom and gloom is justified.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 9, 2023 20:09:59 GMT -5
People actually take the "The Bunny is the true tribal chief. Acknowledge her" meme as serious discourse? But yeah, quarter hour breakdowns are no real indicator of who a draw is and who isn't. Quarter hour fluctuations have a lot more to do with what else is on at the time. It also has to do with how many commercial breaks are in your quarter. There's also the fact that tech literacy has improved and more folks DVR shows by default which empowers them to tune out by the second half of the show if they have other things to do.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 9, 2023 20:12:34 GMT -5
It is a foreign concept to me that there is real sports and fake sports crossover in audiences I just have 0 interest in real sports and the same goes for most of my family I don't at all give a damn about real sports either but I also don't think that things necessarily need to correlate much for plenty of people to be into both. Like top of my head I like wrestling, Mortal Kombat, My Little Pony, Mysterious Girlfriend X, and Misfile and I'll be damned if I can see any sort of intersection between those things besides the weirdly high amount of examples starting with M that happened to come to mind when trying to make my point.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2023 20:14:05 GMT -5
It is a foreign concept to me that there is real sports and fake sports crossover in audiences I just have 0 interest in real sports and the same goes for most of my family There definitely is if numbers are anything to go by in both RAW and AEW numbers But also I love both real and fake sports, we have a whole board for Sports on this wrestling Proboard that's fairly active right?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 9, 2023 20:14:30 GMT -5
Doesnt really mean anything I suppose, but not getting a million right after a highly touted ppv, has to be at least somewhat discouraging though, doesn’t it? I don't think so mainly because the Dynamite after PPVs tend to be palette cleansers and the building for the next arcs start the week after
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Post by Cyno on Mar 9, 2023 20:16:07 GMT -5
People actually take the "The Bunny is the true tribal chief. Acknowledge her" meme as serious discourse? But yeah, quarter hour breakdowns are no real indicator of who a draw is and who isn't. Quarter hour fluctuations have a lot more to do with what else is on at the time. It also has to do with how many commercial breaks are in your quarter. There's also the fact that tech literacy has improved and more folks DVR shows by default which empowers them to tune out by the second half of the show if they have other things to do. Also true. Even with picture-in-picture, commercial breaks disrupt the feel of a match. Not anything AEW can do specifically and that's how TBS pays the bills. But people still tune out or DVR so they can skip the commercials.
Verizon also does this thing where during some of the commercial breaks where they overrun the network's commercials with a couple of their own, and it outright kills the PnP, too. Sometimes they even cut into a few seconds of the actual show. It's obnoxious.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 9, 2023 20:16:12 GMT -5
It is a foreign concept to me that there is real sports and fake sports crossover in audiences I just have 0 interest in real sports and the same goes for most of my family Next couple months being playoff time for NBA and NHL will likely make a difference especially since markets that AEW does well in happen to have pretty good teams in either league if not both and both tend to have games on Wednesday
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 9, 2023 20:17:43 GMT -5
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if people (the ones who do) who act like a "low" rating, even if it's often, is actually enough for WBD to legit cancel them. AEW would be a hot commodity for any channel without ties to WWE and it's abundantly clear that the network wants them. Besides Dynamite, you've got Dark, we've had Cody's horseshit show, supposedly Darby's gonna be doing something, All Access is coming soon and that trademark for the Women's show is likely meant for network television as well. I understand the merit for discussion about the ratings and stuff but I've said 1000 times that Nielsen ratings specifically are a relic of a figure to go by when you consider how people consume TV anymore. Yes, it has its place but I don't see AEW being in any jeopardy at all unless we're talking like, week over week of sub 500k (which if im not mistaken was the number WBD had as the goal post to consider the show a success in the beginning.) Oh well. This is basically the same post I always make in these threads so I guess here's anotha one. No one here says they’re going to get canceled or not renewed. But ratings can still be an important topic of conversation when you’re talking about trends and how the business side may be affected as the ratings will have a pretty direct correlation on how valuable of a deal a company will sign. I’m hoping AEW goes on a heater, ratings spike and they’re in position to get a major major increase in rights fees. It just makes them and the wrestling business as a whole a lot more secure if they do so.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2023 20:23:20 GMT -5
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if people (the ones who do) who act like a "low" rating, even if it's often, is actually enough for WBD to legit cancel them. AEW would be a hot commodity for any channel without ties to WWE and it's abundantly clear that the network wants them. Besides Dynamite, you've got Dark, we've had Cody's horseshit show, supposedly Darby's gonna be doing something, All Access is coming soon and that trademark for the Women's show is likely meant for network television as well. I understand the merit for discussion about the ratings and stuff but I've said 1000 times that Nielsen ratings specifically are a relic of a figure to go by when you consider how people consume TV anymore. Yes, it has its place but I don't see AEW being in any jeopardy at all unless we're talking like, week over week of sub 500k (which if im not mistaken was the number WBD had as the goal post to consider the show a success in the beginning.) Oh well. This is basically the same post I always make in these threads so I guess here's anotha one. No one here says they’re going to get canceled or not renewed. But ratings can still be an important topic of conversation when you’re talking about trends and how the business side may be affected as the ratings will have a pretty direct correlation on how valuable of a deal a company will sign. I’m hoping AEW goes on a heater, ratings spike and they’re in position to get a major major increase in rights fees. It just makes them and the wrestling business as a whole a lot more secure if they do so. We did have some doomposters in the past but they aren't here anymore or don't post in the threads anymore as a whole We are far removed from the sludge on Reddit and Twitter and how some accounts dedicate their entire existences to shitting on anything AEW including the ratings. I stand by that by the spring we should see higher ratings once the NBA games start winding down
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 9, 2023 20:23:37 GMT -5
I think ratings are certainly something to be conscious of, since they can at least give an idea of the overall health and forward momentum of the company and reflect when there is and isn't as much interest in what's going on, but they certainly aren't in a position where they're going to live and die by the week to week, especially when you've got NBA around as a good reason why they'd dip. My qualm isn't exactly with the ratings being a stat we choose to analyze (I may have worded it like that in my post though), but with the fact that the Nielsen system sucks ass. Its that they are in apparently in 40k homes in the US, with an estimated 120k televisions, yet they estimate there are 122 million televisions in the country. Now I see how the math adds up on that, but that is a big logical leap to take when accounting for views. There must legit ways to track the real world viewership. I don't know that for sure, but one would definitely think so.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 9, 2023 20:38:54 GMT -5
No one here says they’re going to get canceled or not renewed. But ratings can still be an important topic of conversation when you’re talking about trends and how the business side may be affected as the ratings will have a pretty direct correlation on how valuable of a deal a company will sign. I’m hoping AEW goes on a heater, ratings spike and they’re in position to get a major major increase in rights fees. It just makes them and the wrestling business as a whole a lot more secure if they do so. We did have some doomposters in the past but they aren't here anymore or don't post in the threads anymore as a whole We are far removed from the sludge on Reddit and Twitter and how some accounts dedicate their entire existences to shitting on anything AEW including the ratings. I stand by that by the spring we should see higher ratings once the NBA games start winding down March and spring in general are pretty rough times for AEW's TV ratings because this is when all the schedule f***ery with March Madness and NBA playoffs happens. Doesn't help that the NBA playoffs also last forever because they have like 3 days off between every game or something lol.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2023 20:40:42 GMT -5
We did have some doomposters in the past but they aren't here anymore or don't post in the threads anymore as a whole We are far removed from the sludge on Reddit and Twitter and how some accounts dedicate their entire existences to shitting on anything AEW including the ratings. I stand by that by the spring we should see higher ratings once the NBA games start winding down March and spring in general are pretty rough times for AEW's TV ratings because this is when all the schedule f***ery with March Madness and NBA playoffs happens. Doesn't help that the NBA playoffs also last forever because they have like 3 days off between every game or something lol. Pray we don't have another Game 7 situation for Double or Nothing because TK WILL make the PPV four hours if he has to again, he has no fear lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 20:46:50 GMT -5
I'm genuinely trying to figure out if people (the ones who do) who act like a "low" rating, even if it's often, is actually enough for WBD to legit cancel them. AEW would be a hot commodity for any channel without ties to WWE and it's abundantly clear that the network wants them. Besides Dynamite, you've got Dark, we've had Cody's horseshit show, supposedly Darby's gonna be doing something, All Access is coming soon and that trademark for the Women's show is likely meant for network television as well. I understand the merit for discussion about the ratings and stuff but I've said 1000 times that Nielsen ratings specifically are a relic of a figure to go by when you consider how people consume TV anymore. Yes, it has its place but I don't see AEW being in any jeopardy at all unless we're talking like, week over week of sub 500k (which if im not mistaken was the number WBD had as the goal post to consider the show a success in the beginning.) Oh well. This is basically the same post I always make in these threads so I guess here's anotha one. No one has even insinuated them getting cancelled have they? I don't understand why this is always the fall back it's like it is always all or nothing no pun intended. Things can just be underperforming.
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Post by XIII on Mar 9, 2023 20:50:55 GMT -5
AEW not doing it for me lately. I was actually home last night and didn’t bother with it. So blame me for the lower than usual rating I guess. 😂
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