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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 5, 2023 12:43:05 GMT -5
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Post by mc74 on Apr 5, 2023 13:12:31 GMT -5
Heyman really showing his ass on the idea that the narrative equivalent of being stuck in a circular interchange you keep not being able to off-ramp out of is 'storytelling at its best'. Using your absolute biggest show ever to cliffhanger somethign for four months down the line is awful storytelling and it's awful business because you can't make Summerslam as big as Wrestlemania. It won't happen. It's not going to happen. It made all the sense in the world to do it on Sunday and it would have been a huge, crowning moment for Cody instead of playing grab-ass with his momentum. It's okay to give people the result on that first go. It's okay to find a new story to tell for the rematch and actually break out pf the same pattern and playbook you think is solid because it's the shit you saw firsthand in the '80s. They have now introduce a whole four month period for Cody to lose steam in and they just have to pray that he stays this hot all the way through to Summerslam. He might not! They went from a sure thing to the words of soothsayers and just expected it to pay off. Wrestling promoters have this really fascinating lack of care for fans when it comes to stories because their thought is they can frustrate you to bleed you dry for more money and string you along with promises and disappointment and setup. That it's better to tank a story and kick the can forward until soem later date you can sell another stadium, at the expense of actually giving the audience the moment of catharsis and joy they want. But Cody vs. Roman at Summerslam woudln't sell worse because it's Cody defending against a Roman on the verge of breakdown. It wouldn't be a worse show for pitching a fresher dynamic between the two men. It's just up-its-ass nonsense because wrestling industry lifers learn all their concept of story building from each other and it's just riddled with holes and decisions built around selling tickets in an entirely different media landscape. I don't think Cody will remain hot throughout the summer simply because the story peaked at Wrestlemania. Mania was supposed to be the climax, where everything finally came full circle, but it didn't happen and only got worse the next night when Cody got decimated & ragdolled by Lesnar. Heck, from the way this is looking, we may very well be seeing Lesnar vs Reigns again. -__-
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Post by chrom on Apr 5, 2023 13:24:44 GMT -5
Heyman really showing his ass on the idea that the narrative equivalent of being stuck in a circular interchange you keep not being able to off-ramp out of is 'storytelling at its best'. Using your absolute biggest show ever to cliffhanger somethign for four months down the line is awful storytelling and it's awful business because you can't make Summerslam as big as Wrestlemania. It won't happen. It's not going to happen. It made all the sense in the world to do it on Sunday and it would have been a huge, crowning moment for Cody instead of playing grab-ass with his momentum. It's okay to give people the result on that first go. It's okay to find a new story to tell for the rematch and actually break out pf the same pattern and playbook you think is solid because it's the shit you saw firsthand in the '80s. They have now introduce a whole four month period for Cody to lose steam in and they just have to pray that he stays this hot all the way through to Summerslam. He might not! They went from a sure thing to the words of soothsayers and just expected it to pay off. Wrestling promoters have this really fascinating lack of care for fans when it comes to stories because their thought is they can frustrate you to bleed you dry for more money and string you along with promises and disappointment and setup. That it's better to tank a story and kick the can forward until soem later date you can sell another stadium, at the expense of actually giving the audience the moment of catharsis and joy they want. But Cody vs. Roman at Summerslam woudln't sell worse because it's Cody defending against a Roman on the verge of breakdown. It wouldn't be a worse show for pitching a fresher dynamic between the two men. It's just up-its-ass nonsense because wrestling industry lifers learn all their concept of story building from each other and it's just riddled with holes and decisions built around selling tickets in an entirely different media landscape. I don't think Cody will remain hot throughout the summer simply because the story peaked at Wrestlemania. Mania was supposed to be the climax, where everything finally came full circle, but it didn't happen and only got worse the next night when Cody got decimated & ragdolled by Lesnar. Heck, from the way this is looking, we may very well be seeing Lesnar vs Reigns again. -__- WrestleMania is suppose to be the end all be all of events. Where the story reaches it's conclusion. Not just another filler show where nothing happens.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 6, 2023 3:35:09 GMT -5
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Post by deezy on Apr 6, 2023 4:26:19 GMT -5
I heard someone sat this and it fits perfectly about Wrestlemania and Raw.
Saturday is what the WWE could be. Sunday and Monday is what the WWE is.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 6, 2023 4:37:26 GMT -5
Was Cody's Kingdom Bitchhalla this whole time?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 6, 2023 7:03:44 GMT -5
I heard someone sat this and it fits perfectly about Wrestlemania and Raw. Saturday is what the WWE could be. Sunday and Monday is what the WWE is. Yeah, or as I've also seen it. Saturday was "We know better" Sunday was "We just don't care."
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Post by mrtuesday on Apr 6, 2023 7:09:30 GMT -5
I heard someone sat this and it fits perfectly about Wrestlemania and Raw. Saturday is what the WWE could be. Sunday and Monday is what the WWE is. Yeah, or as I've also seen it. Saturday was "We know better" Sunday was "We just don't care." The best example was Saturday was getting back with your ex and remembering why you fell in love with them. And Sunday was remembering why you broke up in the first place.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Apr 6, 2023 7:24:03 GMT -5
I heard someone sat this and it fits perfectly about Wrestlemania and Raw. Saturday is what the WWE could be. Sunday and Monday is what the WWE is. Yeah, or as I've also seen it. Saturday was "We know better" Sunday was "We just don't care." Saturday: “you like this nice thing?” Sunday: “well, f*** you.”
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 6, 2023 7:31:23 GMT -5
I heard someone sat this and it fits perfectly about Wrestlemania and Raw. Saturday is what the WWE could be. Sunday and Monday is what the WWE is. Honestly, that seems to have been the reaction to every 2 day WrestleMania, Vince run or otherwise. They just seem really bad at it pacing wise for some reason.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 6, 2023 12:01:50 GMT -5
They also make their most baffling booking choices on Night 2 over and over again.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 6, 2023 13:10:45 GMT -5
Was Cody's Kingdom Bitchhalla this whole time? Bitchhalla is more his personal hall within the wider realm of Bitchgard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 18:16:25 GMT -5
Haven't read every page so if this has been posted then I am sorry but Roman has me crying laughing...That poor kid...and his haircut
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Post by XIII on Apr 6, 2023 18:37:30 GMT -5
I’m not up to speed on Norse mythology is there any way out of Bitchhalla?
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Apr 6, 2023 19:21:26 GMT -5
I’m not up to speed on Norse mythology is there any way out of Bitchhalla? I am also curious to know the answer to this. For reasons.
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Post by canceled4truth on Apr 6, 2023 19:29:06 GMT -5
Dying imagining The Viking Raiders entering on SmackDown tomorrow and over the intercom you just hear Sarah Logan saying "BITCHHALLA IS HERE"
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Post by Tom Turkey on Apr 6, 2023 19:36:57 GMT -5
I’m not up to speed on Norse mythology is there any way out of Bitchhalla? Cody shows up on Raw next week, beats up Lesnar, then goes to Smackdown and make Roman cry.
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Post by XIII on Apr 6, 2023 20:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by Starshine on Apr 6, 2023 21:13:04 GMT -5
If he's now in Bitchalla, does that mean his Mania match was Bitchnarök?
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Post by Fade on Apr 6, 2023 21:28:12 GMT -5
I need a promo package set to “Letters in the Sky” by Civil Twilight on Cody and the rubber Chicken
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