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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 9, 2023 18:28:56 GMT -5
I think that’s just the old WWE problem of just about all feuds being in their own bubble. Like, Seth Rollins has barely interacted with most of the roster the last few months, does that mean there’s a Sethverse? The fact that we got some kind of crossover build at all with Rhodes, Zayn and Owens is almost a miracle. There's a little bit more to Codyverse than just card isolation. There's a certain tone to it. There's this heightened overdrama that turns a trivial one-off TV match meant to fill time and turns it into "HE'S TRYING TO BREAK CODY'S ARM SO HE CAN NEVER HOLD HIS DAUGHTER" and it never means anything or comes up again. It's this broad, Cody-centric narrative fixation where he became the central point by which everything else exists. AEW Cody didn't feud with people; those people simply feuded in the Codyverse as villains of Cody's main character story. It wasn't an intersections of characters for a feud but this All Cody All The Time narrative airhorn. When you're in the Codyverse you don't act quite like you do when you're in any other feud. Cody can't have a meaningless television match because every match Cody has needs big stakes and Arn Anderson yelling about carjacking. That's the difference. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 9, 2023 20:51:57 GMT -5
I think that’s just the old WWE problem of just about all feuds being in their own bubble. Like, Seth Rollins has barely interacted with most of the roster the last few months, does that mean there’s a Sethverse? The fact that we got some kind of crossover build at all with Rhodes, Zayn and Owens is almost a miracle. There's a little bit more to Codyverse than just card isolation. There's a certain tone to it. There's this heightened overdrama that turns a trivial one-off TV match meant to fill time and turns it into "HE'S TRYING TO BREAK CODY'S ARM SO HE CAN NEVER HOLD HIS DAUGHTER" and it never means anything or comes up again. It's this broad, Cody-centric narrative fixation where he became the central point by which everything else exists. AEW Cody didn't feud with people; those people simply feuded in the Codyverse as villains of Cody's main character story. It wasn't an intersections of characters for a feud but this All Cody All The Time narrative airhorn. When you're in the Codyverse you don't act quite like you do when you're in any other feud. Cody can't have a meaningless television match because every match Cody has needs big stakes and Arn Anderson yelling about carjacking. That's the difference. like Cody lights himself on fire for a feud that didn't seem to be anywhere near that heated... |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 9, 2023 20:59:45 GMT -5
There's a little bit more to Codyverse than just card isolation. There's a certain tone to it. There's this heightened overdrama that turns a trivial one-off TV match meant to fill time and turns it into "HE'S TRYING TO BREAK CODY'S ARM SO HE CAN NEVER HOLD HIS DAUGHTER" and it never means anything or comes up again. It's this broad, Cody-centric narrative fixation where he became the central point by which everything else exists. AEW Cody didn't feud with people; those people simply feuded in the Codyverse as villains of Cody's main character story. It wasn't an intersections of characters for a feud but this All Cody All The Time narrative airhorn. When you're in the Codyverse you don't act quite like you do when you're in any other feud. Cody can't have a meaningless television match because every match Cody has needs big stakes and Arn Anderson yelling about carjacking. That's the difference. like Cody lights himself on fire for a feud that didn't seem to be anywhere near that heated... Hell, the build to it was literally Cody having an intense feud with Malakai and Malakai and Andrade being loose allies for like the last quarter of it. Somehow this warranted bringing fire into things when Cody fought Andrade... even though he WON the match before that with Andrade anyway despite he and PAC bickering throughout the match so Cody didn't even have anything to prove at that point in the first place. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Apr 9, 2023 21:28:58 GMT -5
He'll come out on Raw tomorrow, announce that he will become WWE Universal champion one day before Brock comes out and beats his ass down again. I think they'll have Brock vs. Cody as the main event for Backlash. I would laugh my ass off if they had Cody win the Universal Title, but not the one that was the actual crux for his story, the WWE Title. Also sign me up for a new Codyverse. Bring the Codelander character to WWE. It would be a sight to see. |
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 9, 2023 22:16:31 GMT -5
I think that’s just the old WWE problem of just about all feuds being in their own bubble. Like, Seth Rollins has barely interacted with most of the roster the last few months, does that mean there’s a Sethverse? The fact that we got some kind of crossover build at all with Rhodes, Zayn and Owens is almost a miracle. There's a little bit more to Codyverse than just card isolation. There's a certain tone to it. There's this heightened overdrama that turns a trivial one-off TV match meant to fill time and turns it into "HE'S TRYING TO BREAK CODY'S ARM SO HE CAN NEVER HOLD HIS DAUGHTER" and it never means anything or comes up again. It's this broad, Cody-centric narrative fixation where he became the central point by which everything else exists. AEW Cody didn't feud with people; those people simply feuded in the Codyverse as villains of Cody's main character story. It wasn't an intersections of characters for a feud but this All Cody All The Time narrative airhorn. When you're in the Codyverse you don't act quite like you do when you're in any other feud. Cody can't have a meaningless television match because every match Cody has needs big stakes and Arn Anderson yelling about carjacking. That's the difference. I think part of that is him taking himself out of the AEW world title picture. I get why he might have felt like it was a good move at the time, but it did more harm than good. It inherently limited how far he could go. He did the TNT title thing, but you can only do that for so long. So then they went with “make all his stories super melodramatic and personal.” |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Apr 9, 2023 23:06:29 GMT -5
Meme I saw online: Not the first time a bleached blonde American themed character got hyped but ran afoul of the A'naoi holding the championship.
Cue a picture of Lex Luger facing off Yokozuna and Cody facing off Roman.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 10, 2023 6:35:26 GMT -5
He'll come out on Raw tomorrow, announce that he will become WWE Universal champion one day before Brock comes out and beats his ass down again. I think they'll have Brock vs. Cody as the main event for Backlash. I would laugh my ass off if they had Cody win the Universal Title, but not the one that was the actual crux for his story, the WWE Title. Also sign me up for a new Codyverse. Bring the Codelander character to WWE. It would be a sight to see. Sorry I meant to say WWE Undisputed Universal title, I still think he will win it but WWE sometimes likes to strike while the iron is cooled down. Afterwards, I think Cody will try to defend both belts separately and lose one of them. |
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Post by john84 on Apr 10, 2023 10:45:26 GMT -5
Oh jeez, it really does sound like he's setting it up for the WWE incarnation of the Codyverse. Will be worth it if he has a bus again. Then HHH brings back the dx express. All somehow leading to Crush Hour 2 being released. If Cody gets a bus than I want this song played lol youtu.be/JKFyI7pqqLg |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 10, 2023 10:59:46 GMT -5
There's a little bit more to Codyverse than just card isolation. There's a certain tone to it. There's this heightened overdrama that turns a trivial one-off TV match meant to fill time and turns it into "HE'S TRYING TO BREAK CODY'S ARM SO HE CAN NEVER HOLD HIS DAUGHTER" and it never means anything or comes up again. It's this broad, Cody-centric narrative fixation where he became the central point by which everything else exists. AEW Cody didn't feud with people; those people simply feuded in the Codyverse as villains of Cody's main character story. It wasn't an intersections of characters for a feud but this All Cody All The Time narrative airhorn. When you're in the Codyverse you don't act quite like you do when you're in any other feud. Cody can't have a meaningless television match because every match Cody has needs big stakes and Arn Anderson yelling about carjacking. That's the difference. I think part of that is him taking himself out of the AEW world title picture. I get why he might have felt like it was a good move at the time, but it did more harm than good. It inherently limited how far he could go. He did the TNT title thing, but you can only do that for so long. So then they went with “make all his stories super melodramatic and personal.” I don't think it became that big of an issue until he left to film the Really Big Show or whatever it was called. Yeah the Ogogo feud and Factory feud sucked overall but it made sense, but ever since he came back for Grand Slam? He made himself look like an idiot and seemed to go above and beyond to try and make himself get cheered... of course it also didn't help they kept putting Brandi with him on tv and Brandi just wasn't liked on tv at all... nor did she come off as likable. But in short... in hindsight I feel the Codyverse became more about desperately trying to get Cody cheered in spite of what the crowd wanted and what was going on around him rather than telling a compelling story. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 10, 2023 11:17:02 GMT -5
Trying to find my old Codyverse Photoshop and turns out I (almost) called this shit a year ago. Cody put a ton of heart and emotion into talking up how big a moment it's going to be when he taps out to Roman Reigns. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 10, 2023 12:21:33 GMT -5
Trying to find my old Codyverse Photoshop and turns out I (almost) called this shit a year ago. Cody put a ton of heart and emotion into talking up how big a moment it's going to be when he taps out to Roman Reigns. So this is your fault. |
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Post by Chiral on Apr 10, 2023 12:43:03 GMT -5
Trying to find my old Codyverse Photoshop and turns out I (almost) called this shit a year ago. Cody put a ton of heart and emotion into talking up how big a moment it's going to be when he taps out to Roman Reigns. Not remotely as far back as that but I did just remember this from right after Elimination Chamber If it makes anyone feel better, statistically speaking it's much more likely Cody loses to Roman at Wrestlemania the same way Sami, Drew, and the rest did!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 10, 2023 14:20:00 GMT -5
... we are going to end up getting King Cody as the "payoff" to all this bullshit, aren't we.
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Post by The Captain on Apr 10, 2023 14:28:42 GMT -5
I think part of that is him taking himself out of the AEW world title picture. I get why he might have felt like it was a good move at the time, but it did more harm than good. It inherently limited how far he could go. He did the TNT title thing, but you can only do that for so long. So then they went with “make all his stories super melodramatic and personal.” I don't think it became that big of an issue until he left to film the Really Big Show or whatever it was called. Yeah the Ogogo feud and Factory feud sucked overall but it made sense, but ever since he came back for Grand Slam? He made himself look like an idiot and seemed to go above and beyond to try and make himself get cheered... of course it also didn't help they kept putting Brandi with him on tv and Brandi just wasn't liked on tv at all... nor did she come off as likable. But in short... in hindsight I feel the Codyverse became more about desperately trying to get Cody cheered in spite of what the crowd wanted and what was going on around him rather than telling a compelling story. Didn't help that Brandi played a heel character as a counterpart to Cody being a face only because she likes being heel. Like she would cut blatantly heel promos complete with cheap heat on her babyface husband's behalf. Like she even made Dan Lambert into a temporary face and Lambert's character was that of a sleazy piece of shit.
She was a big reason why everyone thought that Cody was setting up a slow burn to a heel turn. But it just turned out to be bad, inconsistent writing because the Rhodeses wanted to have it both ways.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 10, 2023 14:34:37 GMT -5
I don't think it became that big of an issue until he left to film the Really Big Show or whatever it was called. Yeah the Ogogo feud and Factory feud sucked overall but it made sense, but ever since he came back for Grand Slam? He made himself look like an idiot and seemed to go above and beyond to try and make himself get cheered... of course it also didn't help they kept putting Brandi with him on tv and Brandi just wasn't liked on tv at all... nor did she come off as likable. But in short... in hindsight I feel the Codyverse became more about desperately trying to get Cody cheered in spite of what the crowd wanted and what was going on around him rather than telling a compelling story. Didn't help that Brandi played a heel character as a counterpart to Cody being a face only because she likes being heel. Like she would cut blatantly heel promos complete with cheap heat on her babyface husband's behalf. Like she even made Dan Lambert into a temporary face and Lambert's character was that of a sleazy piece of shit.
She was a big reason why everyone thought that Cody was setting up a slow burn to a heel turn. But it just turned out to be bad, inconsistent writing because the Rhodeses wanted to have it both ways.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 10, 2023 20:53:59 GMT -5
"I failed and I'm a loser and Brock is really scary," was certainly a direction to try to salvage this.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 10, 2023 20:57:58 GMT -5
"I failed and I'm a loser and Brock is really scary," was certainly a direction to try to salvage this. God awful, and the crowd that was hyped for him and his entrance died a death during it Classic Codyverse rambling nonsense. Mania was their moment to make a superstar and they whiffed, and now Cody is starting to feel like where he was when he left AEW with his direction and motive a aimless mess. Fully admitting he was a loser at Mania and then that he's scared of Brock but wants to make Brock fear him after... losing at Mania and admitting you're a loser, was sure a f***ing choice to make Just garbage all around, it didn't feel like they could save it past Mania but this is actively making sure Cody just sinks like a stone. |
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Post by Chiral on Apr 10, 2023 21:01:56 GMT -5
Everything with WWE lately feels like they're actively telling me to stay away lol
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 10, 2023 21:07:09 GMT -5
Totally prepared for changing this thread title because with the match happening at (WrestleMania?) Backlash there's no way Cody's winning. Got to drag it out to King of the Ring in that case.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 10, 2023 21:09:46 GMT -5
I’m still on a bit of a break but the response here is interesting. Seems other places liked the promo. I still don’t trust the company to do right by him either way at this point.
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