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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:07:37 GMT -5
This is definitely the worst thing Jeff has ever done: It's the fact he added chest hair to the pecs that really makes it unforgivable lol
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Post by sfvega on Apr 12, 2023 22:08:55 GMT -5
Why are you making it a WWE thing? This is a thread dedicated to the Jeff Hardy return to AEW. I was just bringing up his history as a whole, this happened in TNA too, I'm not trying to say anyone is better or worse, I'm saying this has happened before, that's it. I think I'm bowing out of this, my points aren't coming across well, I wasn't trying to defend Jeff in the situation I was just saying this happens or has happened to many times with him and other athletes that I'm not surprised. Not to pile on, but enabling and exacerbating addicts in wrestling is not a hill to die on, man. This move sucks, and I expect better from Tony but maybe he's not that guy either.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2023 22:09:06 GMT -5
That match did not need to be had in a tourney. That's just booking MYGM to get ratings They didn't go crazy huh Why would either of them agree to that? Because they are idiots and I am sure they were sold on man the fans want to see y'all do crazy shit cause of your reputations
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:10:51 GMT -5
I was just bringing up his history as a whole, this happened in TNA too, I'm not trying to say anyone is better or worse, I'm saying this has happened before, that's it. I think I'm bowing out of this, my points aren't coming across well, I wasn't trying to defend Jeff in the situation I was just saying this happens or has happened to many times with him and other athletes that I'm not surprised. Not to pile on, but enabling and exacerbating addicts in wrestling is not a hill to die on, man. This move sucks, and I expect better from Tony but maybe he's not that guy either. I'm not enabling him, nor am I giving him a pass, I am seeing why they did it, understanding why they did it, not agreeing with it from a personal standpoint, but seeing it happen across sports as a whole, it's an unfortunate pattern of forgiveness and being given dozens of chances I don't know how to make this clearer, but I am not defending Jeff Hardy or AEW, I wouldn't have brought him back, but you did, now you gotta live with it, which is why I HOPE nothing bad happens.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 12, 2023 22:10:52 GMT -5
Why would either of them agree to that? Because they are idiots and I am sure they were sold on man the fans want to see y'all do crazy shit cause of your reputations And Himoru's crazy ass wants to face Darby
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2023 22:11:42 GMT -5
I was just bringing up his history as a whole, this happened in TNA too, I'm not trying to say anyone is better or worse, I'm saying this has happened before, that's it. I think I'm bowing out of this, my points aren't coming across well, I wasn't trying to defend Jeff in the situation I was just saying this happens or has happened to many times with him and other athletes that I'm not surprised. Not to pile on, but enabling and exacerbating addicts in wrestling is not a hill to die on, man. This move sucks, and I expect better from Tony but maybe he's not that guy either.He's a carny in the carny business.
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Post by defectiveepitaph on Apr 12, 2023 22:12:26 GMT -5
I’m fine with it tbh, I was never a huge Hardy mark but I don’t hate him either.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2023 22:12:54 GMT -5
Because they are idiots and I am sure they were sold on man the fans want to see y'all do crazy shit cause of your reputations And Himoru's crazy ass wants to face Darby Keep those two idiots away from each other At one point I did want to see that match but I don't trust Hiromu to actually not try to re-break his neck
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Post by XIII on Apr 12, 2023 22:12:55 GMT -5
Jeff is back!?
Jeff Hardy will always be one my favorites. The matches with E&C and the Dudley’s were insane and Jeff’s singles run was legit good times. I’m just hoping that if he has to be back it’s a nice thank you run where they don’t let him do anything crazy. There’s no reason for Jeff Hardy to be doing stupid risky spots in 2023. Just put him and Matt with someone else in a trios and don’t have them doing stupid shit.
I don’t have high hopes.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:13:09 GMT -5
Not to pile on, but enabling and exacerbating addicts in wrestling is not a hill to die on, man. This move sucks, and I expect better from Tony but maybe he's not that guy either.He's a carny in the carny business. If anyone's expecting a guy to be "That guy" in wrestling I have terrible, terrible news for them, you're gonna be waiting forever... it's a carny business unfortunately lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:13:55 GMT -5
And Himoru's crazy ass wants to face Darby Keep those two idiots away from each other At one point I did want to see that match but I don't trust Hiromu to actually not try to re-break his neck It's absolutely happening, it was gonna happen last year and Hiromu got COVID
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 12, 2023 22:16:56 GMT -5
And Himoru's crazy ass wants to face Darby Keep those two idiots away from each other At one point I did want to see that match but I don't trust Hiromu to actually not try to re-break his neck If Adam Cole vs. Darby Allin happens, we're having a damn prayer circle and invoke almighty God to keep them safe.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 12, 2023 22:18:39 GMT -5
Not to pile on, but enabling and exacerbating addicts in wrestling is not a hill to die on, man. This move sucks, and I expect better from Tony but maybe he's not that guy either. I'm not enabling him, nor am I giving him a pass, I am seeing why they did it, understanding why they did it, not agreeing with it from a personal standpoint, but seeing it happen across sports as a whole, it's an unfortunate pattern of forgiveness and being given dozens of chances I don't know how to make this clearer, but I am not defending Jeff Hardy or AEW, I wouldn't have brought him back, but you did, now you gotta live with it, which is why I HOPE nothing bad happens. Don't make excuses for them doing something really shitty. The wrestling stuff is the wrestling stuff, but this is gross and it really seems like you're justifying it in a backhanded way.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:18:46 GMT -5
Like idk I'm sorry if I said the wrong things in this thread but ultimately what I was trying to get across here is that as good as AEW is, as better as they can be... wrestling companies are wrestling companies, and they want to do what's gonna make them money and what moves tickets/pops crowds... they all do it, they're all going to continue to do it
It's not gonna always be morally correct to people but in the end unless it actively loses them money, ratings, and there's enough of a blowback, guys like Jeff Hardy (And perhaps ultimately CM Punk) are gonna find work... it's essentially on the company in keeping it in check if they do
If they don't, they look like the clowns here, and that's their nose to put on and honk. They're playing with fire, but that's what they do, and other legit sports franchises and even Hollywood do the exact same thing
It's not right, it's not a defense, and people are valid in their anger, I guess I'm just numb to this kinda stuff at this point and go "Oh well... hopefully they know what they're doing", and if they don't, that's gonna f*** em over, dangerous game, stupid prizes to be won, hopefully things work out. I don't want Jeff to screw up again, I want him to be happy and healthy and frankly just retire on his own terms, will we? Who knows... we go from here.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 12, 2023 22:19:07 GMT -5
....in pog form.
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Post by gnr123 on Apr 12, 2023 22:19:31 GMT -5
He's a carny in the carny business. If anyone's expecting a guy to be "That guy" in wrestling I have terrible, terrible news for them, you're gonna be waiting forever... it's a carny business unfortunately lol Heyman, Bischoff, and even Dixie Carter were carnies as well. No one will ever be as bad as Vince McMahon, but a carny's still a carny.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:22:44 GMT -5
I'm not enabling him, nor am I giving him a pass, I am seeing why they did it, understanding why they did it, not agreeing with it from a personal standpoint, but seeing it happen across sports as a whole, it's an unfortunate pattern of forgiveness and being given dozens of chances I don't know how to make this clearer, but I am not defending Jeff Hardy or AEW, I wouldn't have brought him back, but you did, now you gotta live with it, which is why I HOPE nothing bad happens. Don't make excuses for them doing something really shitty. The wrestling stuff is the wrestling stuff, but this is gross and it really seems like you're justifying it in a backhanded way. I'm not, I'm sorry if it sounded like I was, but I'm really not Me saying that it just happens is me being disappointed in the fact that it IS how it just happens. I'm not making excuses for anyone, I wish it wasn't how it was. In a perfect world Jeff would just retire and live a peaceful life but it seems like he can't and they don't wanna let him go either
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2023 22:23:26 GMT -5
If anyone's expecting a guy to be "That guy" in wrestling I have terrible, terrible news for them, you're gonna be waiting forever... it's a carny business unfortunately lol Heyman, Bischoff, and even Dixie Carter were carnies as well. No one will ever be as bad as Vince McMahon, but a carny's still a carny. Yeah, everyone's a carny, even New Japan showed that in plenty of ways... and then there's AAA and CMLL... don't even need to say anything more lol
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Post by Facetious on Apr 12, 2023 22:27:25 GMT -5
Even ignoring the multitude of DUIs, Jeff is beyond busted. And you know Matt is going to want to try for the tag title run again even though they had to nix it due to even the Bucks struggling to get a good match out of them.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 12, 2023 22:30:53 GMT -5
Even ignoring the multitude of DUIs, Jeff is beyond busted. And you know Matt is going to want to try for the tag title run again even though they had to nix it due to even the Bucks struggling to get a good match out of them. That’s the other thing. They’re both just straight up shot. Use them as ambassadors, whatever. They just don’t need to be wrestling. Jeff is lucky he’s not in prison. If he was one of us, he might be.
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