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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 4, 2024 19:48:23 GMT -5
I will say though, about Conrad, I always remember a time around 2022 I guess. When AEW was super hot and WWE wasn't and on his show with Pritchard, Bruce asked him for his favourite tv show and Conrad said "Dynamite" and the brief rage silence that followed. Which I could find that clip again I think Conrad loves wrestling, but he has spent a ton of time around Brucie and Bischoff and his father in law, lifetime grifters; and it has rubbed off. He has a pretty easy formula of reading Meltzer and having his partner, whoever that is, complain about it. And it works, because at the same time, the WWE has cultivated a fanbase that looks to shit on anything that isn't WWE approved, and it's easy to present Meltzer or AEW or whoever as the enemy. It's an easy grift right out of the political playbook. That fact that Conrad has been involved in this almost a decade, promoted numerous shows, is married into the business, and still tries to come off as "I'm just a fan, I can't control what my hosts say or do" is pretty scummy.
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Post by EliteFC on Oct 4, 2024 19:57:58 GMT -5
Regarding Conrad, all I see on the youtube comments is calls for him to be dropped as he is perceived to be too pro-AEW. The anti-AEW folk can't seem to stand him.
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Post by markymark on Oct 4, 2024 20:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by SneakMan on Oct 4, 2024 20:59:40 GMT -5
Leaked transcript of Bischoff’s next podcast intro:
I am NOT CRAZY! I know he faked that deal! I knew AEW was done in 2024. Almost on the air as long as Nitro. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the Observer to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That number! Are you telling me that a network just happens to pay a failing company 185 million a year? No! He orchestrated it! Tony! He BOOKED ORANGE CASSIDY! And I let him! And I shouldn't have. I made an appearance on Dynamite! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Tony! Couldn't be precious Tony! Stealing Shad blind! And he gets to be a promoter? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him! You -
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 4, 2024 21:35:07 GMT -5
I never wanna hear any idiot say they're running out of money ever again. Tony Khan could literally spend each week of TV for the next 5 years lighting half a million dollars on fire and still profit. That's a very mean way to describe Saraya...
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Post by markymark on Oct 4, 2024 21:58:05 GMT -5
Never get tired of Meltzer owning Bischoff
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Post by jm on Oct 4, 2024 22:02:10 GMT -5
Never get tired of Meltzer owning Bischoff
Meltzer owning Bischoff is as awesome as a warm blanket on a cold winter day.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 4, 2024 22:08:21 GMT -5
I choose to believe that the wrestle aunties charming WB folks was a major component in finally getting this new deal. RJ City one of the most important AEW hires.
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Post by Facetious on Oct 4, 2024 22:27:58 GMT -5
We need a thread to share our favorite Rampage memories in. My favorite was when it got canned. RAMMERS IN THE MUD
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Post by markymark on Oct 4, 2024 22:51:10 GMT -5
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Oct 4, 2024 23:05:07 GMT -5
GIVE RJ HIS FRICKIN' GRAPHIC, TONY!
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Post by markymark on Oct 4, 2024 23:52:03 GMT -5
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Post by THE FVNKER on Oct 5, 2024 8:44:36 GMT -5
Good. This is literally the only place I get wrestling news, so I have absolutely zero idea what other people might say about this but I can imagine there’ll be tons of “money mark”, “they’re overpaid”, “dead soon” style comments. I have no clue about the business of AEW but talent salaries going up would indicate to a layman like me that they are healthy, and thriving. So win-win for everyone, right?
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 5, 2024 9:04:54 GMT -5
That's interesting, I remember seeing some estimates (nothing official, obviously) that pre-deal AEW was probably a bit over 50% of revenue going to talent. The number going down with the new revenue is expected, but it does make you realize just how much more the wrestlers could get paid; definitely going to be some bigger contracts moving forward. And, as has been said a lot over the last year or so, AEW driving up wrestlers' salaries is the key reason why WWE/TKO's had the all-out PR assault on them in a way they never felt they had to bother with when TNA was #2 in the States.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 5, 2024 9:08:37 GMT -5
Good. This is literally the only place I get wrestling news, so I have absolutely zero idea what other people might say about this but I can imagine there’ll be tons of “money mark”, “they’re overpaid”, “dead soon” style comments. I have no clue about the business of AEW but talent salaries going up would indicate to a layman like me that they are healthy, and thriving. So win-win for everyone, right? I've seen some people try to spin it as, "Paying the talent too much is bad, that and not the billion other things is what really killed WCW!"
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Post by Fade on Oct 5, 2024 10:08:51 GMT -5
Good. This is literally the only place I get wrestling news, so I have absolutely zero idea what other people might say about this but I can imagine there’ll be tons of “money mark”, “they’re overpaid”, “dead soon” style comments. I have no clue about the business of AEW but talent salaries going up would indicate to a layman like me that they are healthy, and thriving. So win-win for everyone, right? Same. Definitely not the die hard I was but I want AEW and wwe talents and everyone really, getting paid more.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 5, 2024 10:14:52 GMT -5
That's interesting, I remember seeing some estimates (nothing official, obviously) that pre-deal AEW was probably a bit over 50% of revenue going to talent. The number going down with the new revenue is expected, but it does make you realize just how much more the wrestlers could get paid; definitely going to be some bigger contracts moving forward. And, as has been said a lot over the last year or so, AEW driving up wrestlers' salaries is the key reason why WWE/TKO's had the all-out PR assault on them in a way they never felt they had to bother with when TNA was #2 in the States. Yeah, TNA was infamously cheap outside of the top, top names like Sting and Kurt Angle.
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Post by kamzee on Oct 5, 2024 10:20:25 GMT -5
AEW isn't in the same boat as WCW. WCW was at the mercy of its corporate overlords since it was strictly a company owned by Time Warner (later AOL after that merger). Thus, they didn't receive whatever rights fees they may have wanted because the network could pay them basically whatever they wanted. Bischoff was actually far ahead of his time on this, but he was in the wrong place at the wrong time to make that ratings first mentality pay off.
Anyway, now that this deal has been finalized I still can't understand why I should care how much money Tony Khan makes off the deal. The only part I cared about was PPVs on Max and it sounds like they will still cost some sort of actual additional rate, so to me the entire point of the deal I cared about is out the window.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 5, 2024 10:34:18 GMT -5
That's interesting, I remember seeing some estimates (nothing official, obviously) that pre-deal AEW was probably a bit over 50% of revenue going to talent. The number going down with the new revenue is expected, but it does make you realize just how much more the wrestlers could get paid; definitely going to be some bigger contracts moving forward. And, as has been said a lot over the last year or so, AEW driving up wrestlers' salaries is the key reason why WWE/TKO's had the all-out PR assault on them in a way they never felt they had to bother with when TNA was #2 in the States. Yeah a public company like TKO is going to want to maximize profitability which means staying as lean as possible with all expenses. Whereas I’m guessing Tony Khan, given his wealth, is not really using this venture to make as much money as possible and would be perfectly content reinvesting any profits back into the talent and production side and just breaking even. It all means very good things for the talent that have expiring deals these next couple of years.
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Post by dbsot on Oct 5, 2024 10:47:50 GMT -5
Perfect comedy.
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