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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 15, 2023 20:56:54 GMT -5
I don't care about Eric, Vince, Dixie or whoever else you want to bring up TK on his own, judging him without comparison to any other is a whole bitch Every promoter that's ever lived has done this with a guy or multiple in terms of weird ass favoritism, I do not think Khan is in a league all his own with it at all. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 15, 2023 21:00:15 GMT -5
Yeah, Eric was up Hogan's ass, but when I hear a story about Bischoff in gorilla going "HOGAN! HOGAN! HOGAN!" pumping his fist as he walks by then we can talk. I don't think anyone is gonna outclass TK in the bitch department with this one. Plus, Eric was in charge but he didn't own the damn company, I think it's a worse look all around. I still don't see the egregious intent of Tony Khan cheering for Punk when he returned He's done this for debuts and a ton of wrestlers. He is a mark for his talent, but we're acting like this is exclusive to Punk, it's not, I get it's because of Punk that it makes him look bad, but this isn't an exclusive trait to Punk. We also don't even know if that report is true lmfao I'm not discussing exclusivity, that's bringing a non-factor into the discussion just for the sake of trying to manufacture benefit of the doubt, since the issue has always been his adoration and hearts in his eyes for CM Punk specifically. Going back to before AEW was even a thing. I don't care that he adores other talent, or talent in general. Is he a massive mark? yeah, whatever it's his company. That's not what this is about specifically. The issue is Brawl Out happens, the cancer in your locker room is back, and TK is on the sidelines with pom-pom's. It's bad optics. This is the owner of the company. This isn't just playing favorites, or cheering people on, this is full on "acting like you're in the audience for a guy who you're basically screaming "you have me wrapped around your finger!"" in front of everyone. A guy who is a known problem in every single company he's been in. This is an ego you shouldn't be stroking, esp when he proved it a year ago with you sitting right beside him. It's not a good look. That's the point. I feel like there could be 4k video evidence of Tony Khan doing this, and we'd still be having the same discussion amigo. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2023 21:01:48 GMT -5
I don't care about Eric, Vince, Dixie or whoever else you want to bring up TK on his own, judging him without comparison to any other is a whole bitch Every promoter that's ever lived has done this with a guy or multiple in terms of weird ass favoritism, I do not think Khan is in a league all his own with it at all. Never said he's in a league of his own I said he's a bitch You can play favoritism but let's call it what it is. If you as a coworker did a one man cheering army for your boss they could call you a kiss ass and a bitch. A boss doing that for his employee is high levels of favoritism in which no one else is getting, how does that look? Why would you think you can speak out against that person if even the boss is kissing his ass? Punk does what he does with no repercussions (jokes or not) because of shit like this. He isn't walking on thin ice, he's not even drowning in water. He's walking on it cause TK put him on that pedestal |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 15, 2023 21:03:48 GMT -5
I don't care about Eric, Vince, Dixie or whoever else you want to bring up TK on his own, judging him without comparison to any other is a whole bitch Every promoter that's ever lived has done this with a guy or multiple in terms of weird ass favoritism, I do not think Khan is in a league all his own with it at all. Again, not the point. Vince is a rapist piece of shit. Eric was a spineless kiss ass. Dixie was dumb as f***. Tony Khan acts like an awkward 12 year old fanboy who happens to be rich because of his dad. I'm glad AEW is a thing, but he's in a class by himself here with Punk. But he's not ______ doesn't change the fact he is what he is, and once again embarrasses his company by doing weird Tony Khan stuff. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 15, 2023 21:14:57 GMT -5
I still don't see the egregious intent of Tony Khan cheering for Punk when he returned He's done this for debuts and a ton of wrestlers. He is a mark for his talent, but we're acting like this is exclusive to Punk, it's not, I get it's because of Punk that it makes him look bad, but this isn't an exclusive trait to Punk. We also don't even know if that report is true lmfao I'm not discussing exclusivity, that's bringing a non-factor into the discussion just for the sake of trying to manufacture benefit of the doubt, since the issue has always been his adoration and hearts in his eyes for CM Punk specifically. Going back to before AEW was even a thing. I don't care that he adores other talent, or talent in general. Is he a massive mark? yeah, whatever it's his company. That's not what this is about specifically. The issue is Brawl Out happens, the cancer in your locker room is back, and TK is on the sidelines with pom-pom's. It's bad optics. This is the owner of the company. This isn't just playing favorites, or cheering people on, this is full on "acting like you're in the audience for a guy who you're basically screaming "you have me wrapped around your finger!"" in front of everyone. A guy who is a known problem in every single company he's been in. This is an ego you shouldn't be stroking, esp when he proved it a year ago with you sitting right beside him. It's not a good look. That's the point. I feel like there could be 4k video evidence of Tony Khan doing this, and we'd still be having the same discussion amigo. Every promoter that's ever lived has done this with a guy or multiple in terms of weird ass favoritism, I do not think Khan is in a league all his own with it at all. Never said he's in a league of his own I said he's a bitch You can play favoritism but let's call it what it is. If you as a coworker did a one man cheering army for your boss they could call you a kiss ass and a bitch. A boss doing that for his employee is high levels of favoritism in which no one else is getting, how does that look? Why would you think you can speak out against that person if even the boss is kissing his ass? Punk does what he does with no repercussions (jokes or not) because of shit like this. He isn't walking on thin ice, he's not even drowning in water. He's walking on it cause TK put him on that pedestal You said TK's on his own, so I must have misinterpreted what you meant when I said that, my bad. I wasn't really disagreeing with any of you, I was more just pointing out how Tony Khan is That didn't not make him a bitch for CM Punk in this situation I was more saying stuff like "He cheered for CM Punk" isn't an exclusive thing, he's a mark for everyone, it just looks worse because he did it for CM Punk too, REPORTEDLY. But even if he did, that was my only point here. And that doesn't mean it doesn't look bad, he should have really read the room, if he did it. I also in no way said what he's doing isn't becoming a problem or wasn't a problem when Brawl Out happened either, I'm not really defending Khan here I'm just going off of what I've seen from him, and also going off the fact the whole cheering thing was reported by Torch and might not even be true in the first place I digress, it's semantics at this point |
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Post by Ringmaster on Aug 15, 2023 21:27:30 GMT -5
Good to see jokes spanning from the Vince is a bitch thread to here. *Gets fax*....I see, there isn't...mhm, nevermind.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2023 21:42:17 GMT -5
I'm not discussing exclusivity, that's bringing a non-factor into the discussion just for the sake of trying to manufacture benefit of the doubt, since the issue has always been his adoration and hearts in his eyes for CM Punk specifically. Going back to before AEW was even a thing. I don't care that he adores other talent, or talent in general. Is he a massive mark? yeah, whatever it's his company. That's not what this is about specifically. The issue is Brawl Out happens, the cancer in your locker room is back, and TK is on the sidelines with pom-pom's. It's bad optics. This is the owner of the company. This isn't just playing favorites, or cheering people on, this is full on "acting like you're in the audience for a guy who you're basically screaming "you have me wrapped around your finger!"" in front of everyone. A guy who is a known problem in every single company he's been in. This is an ego you shouldn't be stroking, esp when he proved it a year ago with you sitting right beside him. It's not a good look. That's the point. I feel like there could be 4k video evidence of Tony Khan doing this, and we'd still be having the same discussion amigo. Never said he's in a league of his own I said he's a bitch You can play favoritism but let's call it what it is. If you as a coworker did a one man cheering army for your boss they could call you a kiss ass and a bitch. A boss doing that for his employee is high levels of favoritism in which no one else is getting, how does that look? Why would you think you can speak out against that person if even the boss is kissing his ass? Punk does what he does with no repercussions (jokes or not) because of shit like this. He isn't walking on thin ice, he's not even drowning in water. He's walking on it cause TK put him on that pedestal You said TK's on his own, so I must have misinterpreted what you meant when I said that, my bad. I wasn't really disagreeing with any of you, I was more just pointing out how Tony Khan is That didn't not make him a bitch for CM Punk in this situation I was more saying stuff like "He cheered for CM Punk" isn't an exclusive thing, he's a mark for everyone, it just looks worse because he did it for CM Punk too, REPORTEDLY. But even if he did, that was my only point here. And that doesn't mean it doesn't look bad, he should have really read the room, if he did it. I also in no way said what he's doing isn't becoming a problem or wasn't a problem when Brawl Out happened either, I'm not really defending Khan here I'm just going off of what I've seen from him, and also going off the fact the whole cheering thing was reported by Torch and might not even be true in the first place I digress, it's semantics at this point Reading the room is an understatement Punk has still been on menace to society and he's doing this while not reprimanding Punk for being an habitual line stepper gives Punk all the ammo he needs to keep going after people. That's the point. He could cheer Jeff Hardy, Claudio etc but there has been a clear pattern of him playing favorites to the "troublemakers" while they play victim but somehow always remain in center of controversy |
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 15, 2023 22:15:30 GMT -5
A snow bitch if you will.
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 15, 2023 22:18:32 GMT -5
A snow bitch if you will. Snow Bitch and the Seven Scrums (Best I could do at the moment, ask me again after I smoke) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2023 22:41:10 GMT -5
Tony needs to hire a heavy to have the balls he doesn't.
I'm sure Christopher Daniels is a nice guy, but maybe that's the problem. Get someone in talent relations that will nip this all in the bud, and let them be the villain if you won't be. Just become the most detached money man of a boss ever
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 16, 2023 0:41:57 GMT -5
Tony needs to hire a heavy to have the balls he doesn't. I'm sure Christopher Daniels is a nice guy, but maybe that's the problem. Get someone in talent relations that will nip this all in the bud, and let them be the villain if you won't be. Just become the most detached money man of a boss ever I said way back when AEW was just becoming a thing that Tony shouldn't have an on screen presence. If he needed a TV authority figure, hire someone to be a GM, but otherwise sit back and book your show. I've been consistently proven right over and over and over again. I'd rather not have been, but clearly "being rich" doesn't make you management (or social media) material. Hire whomever does the social media for Wendy's to do AEW's, make sure TK doesn't touch Twitt- I mean - "X". |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 16, 2023 0:46:46 GMT -5
Tony needs to hire a heavy to have the balls he doesn't. I'm sure Christopher Daniels is a nice guy, but maybe that's the problem. Get someone in talent relations that will nip this all in the bud, and let them be the villain if you won't be. Just become the most detached money man of a boss ever I said way back when AEW was just becoming a thing that Tony shouldn't have an on screen presence. If he needed a TV authority figure, hire someone to be a GM, but otherwise sit back and book your show. I've been consistently proven right over and over and over again. I'd rather not have been, but clearly "being rich" doesn't make you management (or social media) material. Hire whomever does the social media for Wendy's to do AEW's, make sure TK doesn't touch Twitt- I mean - "X". I think his tweets are fine for the most part, especially since the Swole incident, he's not really blown up there since and that's a good thing His onscreen appearances are also fine, he doesn't do anything but make announcements, sometimes not alone But if he were to hire an onscreen figure type at this point I really wouldn't mind it. F*** it, Jerry Lynn's an idea. Or Stokely's been the on screen presence on ROH, promote him to AEW GM, he'll be great in that role. Ironically the two people I just listed have been Co-ROH GM's for the past few weeks so maybe he is actually testing this out lol |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 0:50:09 GMT -5
Tony needs to hire a heavy to have the balls he doesn't. I'm sure Christopher Daniels is a nice guy, but maybe that's the problem. Get someone in talent relations that will nip this all in the bud, and let them be the villain if you won't be. Just become the most detached money man of a boss ever I said way back when AEW was just becoming a thing that Tony shouldn't have an on screen presence. If he needed a TV authority figure, hire someone to be a GM, but otherwise sit back and book your show. I've been consistently proven right over and over and over again. I'd rather not have been, but clearly "being rich" doesn't make you management (or social media) material. Hire whomever does the social media for Wendy's to do AEW's, make sure TK doesn't touch Twitt- I mean - "X". Agreed...Curiously enough a lot of the aforementioned examples of bitchosity also occurred during times where management was actively participating (either on or off screen) in "being one of the boys" as opposed to being management. That desire from management seemingly always leads to disaster. I hate to say it considering how much of a scum bag he is but a guy like Johnny Ace served his purpose in being willing to hand down reprimand (The position really moreso than his actions in doing so and quid pro quo etc) |
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 16, 2023 5:33:26 GMT -5
They have JR employed, I suspect he's not up for the role full time but if he isn't already acting as a consultant for the head of talent relations then what are they playing at?
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Post by SneakMan on Aug 16, 2023 6:33:58 GMT -5
Good to see jokes spanning from the Vince is a bitch thread to here. *Gets fax*....I see, there isn't...mhm, nevermind. TK is an unabashed fanboy for the most problematic wrestler on the roster to the point where it's actively interfering with both the smooth operation of AEW shows, and with fan interest in the product, during a period where both should be absolute top priority. Vince is a senile old rapist who hasn't had a good idea since the turn of the millennium and, in a just world, would be destitute and in jail. You can see why one warrants the "bitch" label and the other doesn't, right? Nobody is saying that TK is a worse person than Vince, or a worse booker, or anything like that. Hell, given his philanthropy, his treating wrestling as an ecosystem rather than wanting to monopolize the entire business, and the way he's looked out for the families of wrestlers who've died while employed by AEW, I'd say TK is a pretty good person as far as billionaires go. But you can be a good person and still be a bitch. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 16, 2023 6:38:54 GMT -5
They have JR employed, I suspect he's not up for the role full time but if he isn't already acting as a consultant for the head of talent relations then what are they playing at? I dislike current day JR as much as anyone but don’t put that on the poor bastard lmao. That’s just cruel, he should be home eating bbq not picking up some manchild’s messes. |
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Post by dynamitekidd on Aug 16, 2023 6:48:10 GMT -5
It’s like Jaguars deja vu. Very recently Tony’s dad dealt with kind of the same thing. The little details are different, but at the end of the day his dad gave the head coaching job to a proven toxic, selfish, jerk and gave him power. It ended exactly how everyone who knew anything about the coach predicted, a pr mess and a fired coach and a pissed off fan base. I know it’s completely different business but man it feels the same. Thankfully daddy Kahn made the right choice and corrected things before it set his team back 10 years.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 16, 2023 6:51:18 GMT -5
Good to see jokes spanning from the Vince is a bitch thread to here. *Gets fax*....I see, there isn't...mhm, nevermind. TK is an unabashed fanboy for the most problematic wrestler on the roster to the point where it's actively interfering with both the smooth operation of AEW shows, and with fan interest in the product, during a period where both should be absolute top priority. Vince is a senile old rapist who hasn't had a good idea since the turn of the millennium and, in a just world, would be destitute and in jail. You can see why one warrants the "bitch" label and the other doesn't, right? Nobody is saying that TK is a worse person than Vince, or a worse booker, or anything like that. Hell, given his philanthropy, his treating wrestling as an ecosystem rather than wanting to monopolize the entire business, and the way he's looked out for the families of wrestlers who've died while employed by AEW, I'd say TK is a pretty good person as far as billionaires go. But you can be a good person and still be a bitch. On top of this, this thread can stay fairly lighthearted in spite of Tony's bitchitude because, despite his flaws, he's not a Monstrous Ultrabastard like Vince is. The vibes of a "Vince is a bitch" thread would just be nothing but misery the whole way down. Besides, unless he's in Gen-Pop and Cell Block C is having their way with him, Vince isn't a bitch. He's just evil. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 9:09:53 GMT -5
They have JR employed, I suspect he's not up for the role full time but if he isn't already acting as a consultant for the head of talent relations then what are they playing at?
JR is old and recovering from cancer.
Although seeing someone who seems to detest 99% of wrestling and it's various forms of bullshit gleefully tell the man-children to shape up or leave might be worth it.
JR came from the Watts school of wrestling management, and Watts was an absolute bastard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 9:16:15 GMT -5
TK is an unabashed fanboy for the most problematic wrestler on the roster to the point where it's actively interfering with both the smooth operation of AEW shows, and with fan interest in the product, during a period where both should be absolute top priority. Vince is a senile old rapist who hasn't had a good idea since the turn of the millennium and, in a just world, would be destitute and in jail. You can see why one warrants the "bitch" label and the other doesn't, right? Nobody is saying that TK is a worse person than Vince, or a worse booker, or anything like that. Hell, given his philanthropy, his treating wrestling as an ecosystem rather than wanting to monopolize the entire business, and the way he's looked out for the families of wrestlers who've died while employed by AEW, I'd say TK is a pretty good person as far as billionaires go. But you can be a good person and still be a bitch. On top of this, this thread can stay fairly lighthearted in spite of Tony's bitchitude because, despite his flaws, he's not a Monstrous Ultrabastard like Vince is. The vibes of a "Vince is a bitch" thread would just be nothing but misery the whole way down. Besides, unless he's in Gen-Pop and Cell Block C is having their way with him, Vince isn't a bitch. He's just evil.
Yeah, I just want to throw it out there that I don't hate Tony Khan. As far as billionaires go, he seems to be one of the more alright ones and he does things that are generous and kind without making it all about him.
I just hope that he's finally learning a hard lesson that any one of us who's ever worked in management before has had to learn, which is that talent doesn't trump teamwork.
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