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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Jun 9, 2023 3:04:16 GMT -5
They could have called this Elemental, My Dear Watson and have it be about Sherlock Holmes and company trying to find all four of the magic element orbs to put the world back into balance. It would be like the first Final Fantasy game.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 9, 2023 3:15:46 GMT -5
Yeah, this just feels incredibly sad.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jun 9, 2023 4:30:17 GMT -5
I'm remember reading that book DisneyWar
In it Michael Eisner said to investors “Finding Nemo” was projected to be a box office bomb.. But ended up being one of Pixar’s most successful films at the time. Well he said that cause Disney was hoping to purchae the Pixar studio for really cheap (at the time Disney did not outright own the Pixar studio, it was just a partnership)... But in the end that did not happen, and Disney purchased Pixar for a lot more then they intended
This thread is just reminding me of that.. Probably not the case this time.
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Post by chrom on Jun 9, 2023 6:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 9, 2023 6:09:25 GMT -5
I legitimately forget sometimes what is and isn't Pixar. Pixar as a brand probably has some safety due to prestige, but I've seen people joke that we're only going to get more sequels now, and there's probably truth in that, like Incredibles 3 or something. Toy Story is probably well and truly tapped, so they can't count on that, and I don't really even know what they'd do with another Cars or Finding ____, short of maybe Nemo himself becoming an adult and him being the one having to look for somebody like his dad. Even that has the issue of Ellen completely botching her audience good will by now, though, and if you don't have Dory, you have a real lack of recognizable characters to lean on. They do have both Toy Story 5 and Inside Out 2 announced, though really not sure what you actually do with either one. You could have (and many did) say that about Toy Story 4 as well. The 3rd one was a terrific ending to the story. 4 while admittedly kinda fun, was completely unnecessary.
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 9, 2023 9:23:43 GMT -5
I feel like I've heard next to nothing about these recent Disney/Pixar releases other than The Little Mermaid. I genuinely thought Elemental wasn't due until next year because it just doesn't seem to have been promoted in the way a Disney/Pixar movie coming out soon would be. Same with Strange World. The few images I have seen from Elemental look completely soulless.
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Post by BRV on Jun 9, 2023 10:45:28 GMT -5
Movie currently has a 63% on RT out of 16 reviews and even most of the positive reviews are pretty middling. This thing's pretty for sure going to end up going out to die against Spidey next weekend. It's now at 67 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, but for Pixar is shockingly low considering that 18 of the previous 26 Pixar films are rated at 90 percent or higher. If it keeps that figure, it would end up as the second-worst reviewed Pixar movie of all-time, only ahead of "Cars 2."
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 17, 2023 13:56:09 GMT -5
Sure enough the movie opened quite poorly. It's currently a tossup whether or not it'll have the worst opening weekend for a Pixar movie, but seeing as its competition is the first Toy Story it's not exactly got a lot to be proud of even if it does avoid it.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jun 17, 2023 15:30:35 GMT -5
I've seen some comments from people who saw the early screenings, and the impression that I get is that the movie isn't objectively terrible, but it's written and paced like every other Pixar movie released in the last decade, so there's nothing really new to bring audiences to the theater.
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Post by chrom on Jun 17, 2023 15:52:59 GMT -5
I've seen some comments from people who saw the early screenings, and the impression that I get is that the movie isn't objectively terrible, but it's written and paced like every other Pixar movie released in the last decade, so there's nothing really new to bring audiences to the theater. It basically looks like Zootopia with a new coat of paint.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 17, 2023 17:54:10 GMT -5
We've gotten to the point where Pixar films just exist, never thought I'd see the day.
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Post by KingPooper on Jun 17, 2023 20:24:51 GMT -5
It was fine. The animation was incredible. The plot was serviceable but predictable. Worth checking out on Disney Plus. I kinda have the “hots” for the lead fire girl. The wood and air people don’t really factor in the movie at all. I think I’d rather just rewatch Zootopia.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jun 17, 2023 21:05:49 GMT -5
We've gotten to the point where Pixar films just exist, never thought I'd see the day. Disney and Pixar have basically lost their way. Their films for years have been entirely mediocre in Pixar's case or shit live-action cash-grabs in Disney's case.
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Post by chrom on Jun 17, 2023 21:13:21 GMT -5
We've gotten to the point where Pixar films just exist, never thought I'd see the day. Disney and Pixar have basically lost their way. Their films for years have been entirely mediocre in Pixar's case or shit live-action cash-grabs in Disney's case. They need a complete rehaul to find that magic and remember what made things work, neither company have been looking good these last five or so years.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 18, 2023 5:49:11 GMT -5
They could have called this Elemental, My Dear Watson and have it be about Sherlock Holmes and company trying to find all four of the magic element orbs to put the world back into balance. It would be like the first Final Fantasy game. Or we can finally give Basil some more love and make it a Great Mouse Detective crossover.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 18, 2023 6:28:14 GMT -5
Sure enough the movie opened quite poorly. It's currently a tossup whether or not it'll have the worst opening weekend for a Pixar movie, but seeing as its competition is the first Toy Story it's not exactly got a lot to be proud of even if it does avoid it. Well it already had the worst opening day ever for a Pixar film.
The reviews have been pretty positive, especially audience feedback, but the marketing for this film was f***ing atrocious. The commercials didn't give anyone enough of a hook or purpose to see it outside of trying to show off the animation innovations... and it fell flat because of that Other things are people saying it's good but it's "A Pixar Movie", and... it's really sad that is becoming a phrase that isn't really positive, it's just safe... genetic The studio's getting lapped because others like Sony, DreamWorks, and Illumination are expanding their horizons, experimenting, and Pixar isn't hitting like it's the superior animation studio ahead of everyone else anymore. They put Luca and Soul online strictly, they then bumped Turning Red online only, and they came back with Lightyear which was a critical and box office disaster that has now caused major layoffs within the studio for the first time in a very long time... I shudder to think what's gonna happen if Elemental doesn't pick up any momentum there, but... Disney's gotten way too comfortable, and I feel like Chapek's time in charge has done way more harm than we may ever know about...
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 18, 2023 7:52:17 GMT -5
I've seen some comments from people who saw the early screenings, and the impression that I get is that the movie isn't objectively terrible, but it's written and paced like every other Pixar movie released in the last decade, so there's nothing really new to bring audiences to the theater. It basically looks like Zootopia with a new coat of paint. And that's on poor marketing. As there's basically no Zootopia influence in Elemental at all. If there is, it's superficial. Disney's marketing department needs an overhaul. The last 5 years they seem to have no clue how to advertise their animated films.
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Post by Rican on Jun 18, 2023 10:47:39 GMT -5
I’m a big Pixar guy and the ads for this haven’t made me want to see it at all. I even like a lot of the recent stuff. I thought Soul was right up there with some of their best work and Turning Red was fun as hell. Honestly even liked Lightyear just fine. But yeah there’s nothing about this that looks all that interesting
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 18, 2023 11:36:48 GMT -5
I do definitely have to think that Disney+ is probably cannibalizing their theatrical output lately. Everything they put out you know is going to end up on there as soon as possible so there isn't really a lot of incentive to rush out to see anything Disney's putting out unless you're extremely hyped up for it. At least personally I'm kind of struggling to think of anything they could put out right now I'd bother to go to the theaters for other than maybe Fantastic Four.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 18, 2023 11:48:44 GMT -5
Just get rid of the Pixar name. Their time is over. Their brand is diminished.
Walt Disney Animation Studios should be the sole producer of the films, and they should release a big budget Frozen type movie every few years. All the shit for younger kids like Trucks 4 and other bollocks can be released on Disney+ on a smaller budget and a shorter running time.
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