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Post by castletonsnob on May 22, 2023 13:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on May 22, 2023 14:03:05 GMT -5
Disney hasn't had a big hit in years it seems like.
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Post by darbus alan on May 22, 2023 14:03:34 GMT -5
Inside the Magic is clickbait garbage that will just make shit up.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 22, 2023 14:11:31 GMT -5
In fairness it’s up against a crowded box office. But I think the way Elemental’s been marketed hurt it somewhat- I’ll have to see it to make a better judgment on this theory, but we just had Zootopia and Raya the Last Dragon come out from WDAS with stories themed around overcoming differences and assumptions, and some of those comparisons probably had people automatically deciding it doesn’t have that much new plot synopsis wise.
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Post by salz4life on May 22, 2023 14:18:09 GMT -5
I want to see it... but not enough to go to the theater. I'm ok waiting for it to show up on Disney+
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 22, 2023 14:18:28 GMT -5
Disney hasn't had a big hit in years it seems like. For animated films, Frozen II in 2019 would be the last one I'd call a huge hit. After that you've got (Including Disney and Fox stuff) Spies in Disguise Onward Soul Raya and the Last Dragon Luca Ron's Gone Wrong Encanto Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild Turning Red The Bob's Burger's Movie Lightyear Strange World I know every film can't make almost 2 billion dollars like Frozen II, but that list is a mixed bag at best both financially and creatively. |
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Post by salz4life on May 22, 2023 14:21:51 GMT -5
Soul was a good movie. I think that was one of the movies during the Pandemic that went straight to Disney+. I think that would've done decently (not Frozen, mind you) in the theater.
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Post by Kalmia on May 22, 2023 14:24:23 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Turning Red and thought it was a shame it didn't get a theatrical release.
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Post by BRV on May 22, 2023 14:28:13 GMT -5
In fairness it’s up against a crowded box office. But I think the way Elemental’s been marketed hurt it somewhat- I’ll have to see it to make a better judgment on this theory, but we just had Zootopia and Raya the Last Dragon come out from WDAS with stories themed around overcoming differences and assumptions, and some of those comparisons probably had people automatically deciding it doesn’t have that much new plot synopsis wise. Is it even being marketed, period? I haven't seen an ad, commercial, trailer, promotion for this movie at all. The first glimpse I saw of it were pictures on that link, and the first thing I thought when I saw them were, "Wait, is 'Inside Out' getting a sequel?" I want to see it... but not enough to go to the theater. I'm ok waiting for it to show up on Disney+ This, above all else, is probably why Disney hasn't had a true box office hit since "Frozen II" back in 2019. Since Disney+ arrived in the United States (three days before "Frozen II"'s theatrical release, mind you), the thought process for most of Disney's target audience (i.e. families) has been, "Why spend upwards of $50 on tickets and concessions for a movie night when we can just wait a few weeks to see it on Disney+?" The next big test of that theory will be this weekend's release of "The Little Mermaid." If that flops, then Disney truly has a problem on its hands, rather than just a cold streak. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 22, 2023 14:30:01 GMT -5
Soul was a good movie. I think that was one of the movies during the Pandemic that went straight to Disney+. I think that would've done decently (not Frozen, mind you) in the theater. Yeah that's the big question mark when it comes to the financial side of things. It seems like they might have made several wrong calls on which films to put in theaters and which to put directly on streaming. And Disney+ also might be reducing box office in another way, the "I'll just wait for Disney+" effect, which has to hurt the more mediocre looking films especially. |
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Post by darbus alan on May 22, 2023 14:34:53 GMT -5
"Disney hasn't had a big box office hit since 2019!"
To be fair, there was this global outbreak of a deadly disease that might have affected box office for a few years after that. |
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Post by BRV on May 22, 2023 14:39:02 GMT -5
To be fair, there was this global outbreak of a deadly disease that might have affected box office for a few years. That's why the word I'd use right now is "cold streak." The movie industry didn't really recover to pre-pandemic levels until late-2021, with the release of Spider-Man: No Way Home. Everything released between February 2020 and Thanksgiving 2021 has to be discounted from the discussion. But, for Disney's theatrical releases, that doesn't explain away underperforming box office returns for Encanto, Lightyear, and Strange World, which were their three big theater-exclusive releases over the past year and a half. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 22, 2023 14:40:16 GMT -5
Disney hasn't had a big hit in years it seems like. For animated films, Frozen II in 2019 would be the last one I'd call a huge hit. After that you've got (Including Disney and Fox stuff) Spies in Disguise Onward Soul Raya and the Last Dragon Luca Ron's Gone Wrong Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild Turning Red The Bob's Burger's Movie Lightyear Strange World I know every film can't make almost 2 billion dollars like Frozen II, but that list is a mixed bag at best. A lot of those don’t even count because they made the decision to either ship them to D+ early because of the pandemic or altogether. The strategy has changed with Iger back in charge. Onward was hurt because Covid hit right as it went to theaters. Luca went straight to D+ along with Soul to the displeasure of Pixar to boost D+ numbers. Turning Red and Ice Age were straight to D+ too. Raya’s numbers were hurt by Covid. Lightyear and Strange World were flops. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 22, 2023 14:41:16 GMT -5
To be fair, there was this global outbreak of a deadly disease that might have affected box office for a few years. That's why the word I'd use right now is "cold streak." The movie industry didn't really recover to pre-pandemic levels until late-2021, with the release of Spider-Man: No Way Home. Everything released between February 2020 and Thanksgiving 2021 has to be discounted from the discussion. But, for Disney's theatrical releases, that doesn't explain away underperforming box office returns for Encanto, Lightyear, and Strange World, which were their three big theater-exclusive releases over the past year and a half. Encanto had a life after theaters though. It ended up being huge for Disney after the fact. It was massive on D+, moved tons of merch and “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” was Disney’s first #1 song on the Billboard Top 100 since “A Whole New World”. |
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Post by darbus alan on May 22, 2023 14:47:14 GMT -5
To be fair, there was this global outbreak of a deadly disease that might have affected box office for a few years. That's why the word I'd use right now is "cold streak." The movie industry didn't really recover to pre-pandemic levels until late-2021, with the release of Spider-Man: No Way Home. Everything released between February 2020 and Thanksgiving 2021 has to be discounted from the discussion. But, for Disney's theatrical releases, that doesn't explain away underperforming box office returns for Encanto, Lightyear, and Strange World, which were their three big theater-exclusive releases over the past year and a half. If you include Disney's wide range of studios under its ownership umbrella, then that has to include Avatar: The Way of Water. And thanks to a very strong international box office, it's the third highest grossing film of all time. Also the pandemic-era box office goes well past 2021 and at least through most of 2022. Just because Americans put their fingers in their ears and pretended the thing was over in 2021 doesn't mean that the rest of the world followed suit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 16:06:21 GMT -5
Inside the Magic needs to be on the same list of banned sources as Sportskeeda. Just clickbaity, pot-stirring nonsense.
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Post by H-Virus on May 22, 2023 16:10:00 GMT -5
I had no idea this movie was even a thing until about three days ago, and it was a random five second ad on YouTube. Have I just not been paying attention or is the advertising really that sparse?
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Post by Hit Girl on May 22, 2023 16:14:01 GMT -5
Too many movies, not enough promotion, and the concepts are lazy.
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on May 22, 2023 16:25:13 GMT -5
I saw the ads and it reminded me of the trope that is "What if X had feelings?". We had quite a few of those movies before, namely with Inside Out.
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Post by KingPooper on May 22, 2023 17:41:20 GMT -5
Yeah this movie feels like it came out ten years ago. Going to the movies is expensive and Disney made their own bad luck making the theaters to streaming insanely short. Plus a lot of their output even Pixar has been a mixed bag. So why chance it.
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