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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 9, 2024 19:26:57 GMT -5
Good to see and not too surprising. Smackdown will get better ratings than anything else they put out there on Friday. I could see a Thursday AEW show being in the cards. Especially if they lose the NBA. They'd be going against the NFL every week in the regular season, and TK doesn't want to do that. He may not want to but he's already going against similar sports competition every Saturday during football season anyway - including the NFL for a quarter of the season. TKO runs against Monday Night Football with RAW despite Jonathan Kraft being on their Board of Directors so it doesn't seem to be an NFL rule or anything. I think if WBD wants it and is willing to pay, he'll go with it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2024 20:10:16 GMT -5
Well then I guess Collision is staying where it is then, and so is Rampage, unless NXT moves nights going to the CW, that'd be the only way anything budges Honestly, they should look at moving a show to Monday's. There has been wrestling on Monday's on cable for nearly 40 years. Wrestling has had at least one top 10 show for 30 of those years. If Tony breaks his rule about going up against the NFL then yeah, that's always an option, but only if he does that
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 9, 2024 20:20:43 GMT -5
Well then I guess Collision is staying where it is then, and so is Rampage, unless NXT moves nights going to the CW, that'd be the only way anything budges Honestly, they should look at moving a show to Monday's. There has been wrestling on Monday's on cable for nearly 40 years. Wrestling has had at least one top 10 show for 30 of those years. I say this every time the idea comes up, running against Raw is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns blazin’. WWE is content to take their potshots at AEW but mostly leave them alone, it doesn’t benefit anyone to provoke a full blown war with WWE. AEW benefitted once from WWE’s own arrogance and hubris when Vince thought the C brand would be enough to kill AEW before it took off, I can’t see them surprising WWE again. You move a show to Monday against Raw and suddenly Roman, Cody, Hunter, Austin, Rocky, Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Jade, Trish, whoever it takes are on every single Raw in an attempt to cripple the opposing show. They will fight dirty, they will likely win, and the wrestlers and wrestling fans would lose.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2024 20:23:20 GMT -5
Honestly, they should look at moving a show to Monday's. There has been wrestling on Monday's on cable for nearly 40 years. Wrestling has had at least one top 10 show for 30 of those years. I say this every time the idea comes up, running against Raw is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns blazin’. WWE is content to take their potshots at AEW but mostly leave them alone, it doesn’t benefit anyone to provoke a full blown war with WWE. AEW benefitted once from WWE’s own arrogance and hubris when Vince thought the C brand would be enough to kill AEW before it took off, I can’t see them surprising WWE again. You move a show to Monday against Raw and suddenly Roman, Cody, Hunter, Austin, Rocky, Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Jade, Trish, whoever it takes are on every single Raw in an attempt to cripple the opposing show. They will fight dirty, they will likely win, and the wrestlers and wrestling fans would lose. Well WWE's gonna go to Netflix, so that's their call. They won't have the cable competition anymore. People could realistically watch both things at the exact same time if they have the setup so... times are changing, if they did it, it's not so much a direct competition anymore because RAW's viewership isn't even going to be something released to the public anymore. They can stack and guns blaze all they want... they're gonna be on a completely different viewing medium now where they don't directly compete in theory... so idk, AEW's biggest question to be isn't RAW, it's the NFL, if they think about it.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 9, 2024 20:33:25 GMT -5
I say this every time the idea comes up, running against Raw is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns blazin’. WWE is content to take their potshots at AEW but mostly leave them alone, it doesn’t benefit anyone to provoke a full blown war with WWE. AEW benefitted once from WWE’s own arrogance and hubris when Vince thought the C brand would be enough to kill AEW before it took off, I can’t see them surprising WWE again. You move a show to Monday against Raw and suddenly Roman, Cody, Hunter, Austin, Rocky, Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Jade, Trish, whoever it takes are on every single Raw in an attempt to cripple the opposing show. They will fight dirty, they will likely win, and the wrestlers and wrestling fans would lose. Well WWE's gonna go to Netflix, so that's their call. They won't have the cable competition anymore. People could realistically watch both things at the exact same time if they have the setup so... times are changing, if they did it, it's not so much a direct competition anymore because RAW's viewership isn't even going to be something released to the public anymore. They can stack and guns blaze all they want... they're gonna be on a completely different viewing medium now where they don't directly compete in theory... so idk, AEW's biggest question to be isn't RAW, it's the NFL, if they think about it. Cable and Netflix absolutely compete for viewership. Just because we won’t see a fancy little graph from Thurston every Tuesday afternoon doesn’t mean 2 wrestlings shows live on Monday nights aren’t competing for at least part of the same audience.
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Post by DichEvans on May 9, 2024 20:33:59 GMT -5
Honestly, they should look at moving a show to Monday's. There has been wrestling on Monday's on cable for nearly 40 years. Wrestling has had at least one top 10 show for 30 of those years. I say this every time the idea comes up, running against Raw is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns blazin’. WWE is content to take their potshots at AEW but mostly leave them alone, it doesn’t benefit anyone to provoke a full blown war with WWE. AEW benefitted once from WWE’s own arrogance and hubris when Vince thought the C brand would be enough to kill AEW before it took off, I can’t see them surprising WWE again. You move a show to Monday against Raw and suddenly Roman, Cody, Hunter, Austin, Rocky, Rhea, Becky, Bianca, Jade, Trish, whoever it takes are on every single Raw in an attempt to cripple the opposing show. They will fight dirty, they will likely win, and the wrestlers and wrestling fans would lose. I don't think your opinion is necessarily wrong, but it depends on the viewing habits of people who do watch RAW. Mania 40 was the top streamed wrestling show in history with 2.7 million viewers. The average PLE is anywhere between 700k-1.5m. That's about what RAW does, but those are heavily promoted events, with marquee matches (last weeks show was 1.4m TV viewers). it will be curious to see how many viewers just watch RAW out of habit and how many will follow the show to Netflix. *My source(s) is wrestlenomics for anyone who wants to verify those numbers
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Post by darbus alan on May 9, 2024 20:52:49 GMT -5
"Raw is moving to Netflix so the night is free!" is a very old-fashioned way of thinking about this. And in AEW's case, a very bad way of thinking about this. And that's on the Mondays where they don't have the NFL to worry about.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 9, 2024 21:01:15 GMT -5
Well WWE's gonna go to Netflix, so that's their call. They won't have the cable competition anymore. People could realistically watch both things at the exact same time if they have the setup so... times are changing, if they did it, it's not so much a direct competition anymore because RAW's viewership isn't even going to be something released to the public anymore. They can stack and guns blaze all they want... they're gonna be on a completely different viewing medium now where they don't directly compete in theory... so idk, AEW's biggest question to be isn't RAW, it's the NFL, if they think about it. Cable and Netflix absolutely compete for viewership. Just because we won’t see a fancy little graph from Thurston every Tuesday afternoon doesn’t mean 2 wrestlings shows live on Monday nights aren’t competing for at least part of the same audience. Oh they'll compete but it'll be way less direct and in a medium where they can both be viewed at the same time IF an AEW show moved to that slot. I just don't know how fierce it'll be because it's not gonna be competing for channel flicking, WWE will be on a completely different service that a lot of people might not have compared to cable and vice versa
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Post by ejm olmos on May 9, 2024 21:09:08 GMT -5
"Raw is moving to Netflix so the night is free!" is a very old-fashioned way of thinking about this. And in AEW's case, a very bad way of thinking about this. And that's on the Mondays where they don't have the NFL to worry about. If they’re going to do it, I hope they have the balls to go full Monday Impact and do that stupid red cage match as the opener. Full recreation with Ortiz playing the role of Homicide being unable to climb out. Give us the good shit, TK.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 9, 2024 23:50:16 GMT -5
Moved the recent SD news to this thread since it relates to all of it.
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Post by cornettesracket on May 10, 2024 3:57:09 GMT -5
Moved the recent SD news to this thread since it relates to all of it. what recent SD news ?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2024 4:10:41 GMT -5
Moved the recent SD news to this thread since it relates to all of it. what recent SD news ? Smackdown staying on Fridays on USA.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 10, 2024 7:35:11 GMT -5
Tony Khan going to Mondays would be not a terrible move for the strict AEW only audience but getting WWE casuals and non fans to crossover during Football season will be a tough hill to climb.
I do think they should try and stick to opposite nights from WWE. I know some say people can watch both but not everyone does that and some find it to be a pain in the ass. I do it all the time for College Football in the Fall but not all fans are going to do that and instead it just splits the audience.
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Post by cornettesracket on May 10, 2024 7:43:05 GMT -5
Smackdown staying on Fridays on USA. Oh okay. I hadn’t heard that news. That’s a good call as wrestlings fans are creatures of habit. I remember Bruce Prichard taking about how much is mess smackdown going from Thursday to Friday and back again was for WWE
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 10, 2024 8:06:53 GMT -5
The entire concept of regular TV itself is at war with streaming. I also think you're looking at a really brutal demographic hit if you tried to chase those who haven't adopted streaming; yeah, you might be able to sway some of Raw's older audience who don't bother with that tech shit, or people in areas with terrible dogshit internet. But the gamble involves AEW putting up their younger, tech savvy audience. We're looking as wrestling fans at where the wrestling show is going through a wrestling fan lens, but the reality of Netflix nabbing a cable stalwart and building out a weekly live serialization infrastructure specifically around WWE is a warning shot in a much broader media war going on and it doesn't help AEW to start taking huge gambles on which way that war goes on the side that has spent years losing.
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Post by polarbearpete on May 10, 2024 10:00:52 GMT -5
Cable and Netflix absolutely compete for viewership. Just because we won’t see a fancy little graph from Thurston every Tuesday afternoon doesn’t mean 2 wrestlings shows live on Monday nights aren’t competing for at least part of the same audience. Oh they'll compete but it'll be way less direct and in a medium where they can both be viewed at the same time IF an AEW show moved to that slot. I just don't know how fierce it'll be because it's not gonna be competing for channel flicking, WWE will be on a completely different service that a lot of people might not have compared to cable and vice versa Just for reference, there’s an estimated 57 million cable/satellite households in the US, and around 80 million Netflix subscriptions in the US.
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Post by john84 on May 10, 2024 11:34:10 GMT -5
Wait...If SD is on US in America, will it still be on TNT in UK? Or would it be on Netflix?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2024 12:12:37 GMT -5
Wait...If SD is on US in America, will it still be on TNT in UK? Or would it be on Netflix? WWE gets on Netflix in January for the UK so for all we know, it’ll stop showing on TNT in June but nobody has said one way or another.
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Post by darbus alan on May 10, 2024 12:13:50 GMT -5
Wait...If SD is on US in America, will it still be on TNT in UK? Or would it be on Netflix? One doesn't really have to do with the other as those are all separate negotiations.
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Post by cornettesracket on May 10, 2024 12:14:24 GMT -5
Wait...If SD is on US in America, will it still be on TNT in UK? Or would it be on Netflix? WWE gets on Netflix in January for the UK so for all we know, it’ll stop showing on TNT in June but nobody has said one way or another. 😂😂🤔😳 what is going on lads.
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