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Post by johncasey on Jul 15, 2023 16:28:02 GMT -5
MJF hamming it up as the OTT Baby-face is pretty funny.
The person at risk at turning heel is Tony Schivonne
Wonder if Britt Baker will get involved a la Mega Powers.
I also wonder whether plans for All In are being changed in order to keep the 2 together instead of the turn.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 15, 2023 16:42:51 GMT -5
MJF hamming it up as the OTT Baby-face is pretty funny. The person at risk at turning heel is Tony Schivonne Wonder if Britt Baker will get involved a la Mega Powers. I also wonder whether plans for All In are being changed in order to keep the 2 together instead of the turn. Tony doesn't change plans
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 15, 2023 16:47:15 GMT -5
Tony doesn't change plans I mean, he does more often than people realize, it's just most of the time if things are going a certain way, there's no real motivation to do so. Like, it's different from WWE right now where there's a plan, they're sticking to the plan no matter what people are reacting, watching or purchasing. My one concern with if this continues, who ends up challenging MJF for the next little bit? If there was an idea for MJF/Kingston at Grand Slam, does that really work if he's still teaming with Cole? Will people be able to take a newer challenger seriously?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2023 16:58:01 GMT -5
MJF hamming it up as the OTT Baby-face is pretty funny. The person at risk at turning heel is Tony Schivonne Wonder if Britt Baker will get involved a la Mega Powers. I also wonder whether plans for All In are being changed in order to keep the 2 together instead of the turn. Tony doesn't change plans He has, repeatedly People don't think he does because he didn't balk with the Jade idea, but a lot more times than not, plans have deviated from the start and things happen where things need to change, and have. He does his best to still try and reach end goals but wrestling doesn't work that way, it loves to mess with ya.
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Post by Burst on Jul 15, 2023 17:11:29 GMT -5
I feel like it's not so much he doesn't change plans, so much as he ends up waiting so long TO change the plans that it ends up making the angle worse than it would've been if he'd called the audible sooner.
I mean, best argument against "TK never changes plans" is how (aside from commentary and Eddie in the heat of the moment), nobody tried to pretend the pyro botch for the Exploding Barbed Wire Death match was anything but afterwards.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 19, 2023 21:12:45 GMT -5
They are so over it's f***ing unreal
The scream of agony from the fans when there was just a hint of dissension said it all... they've struck gold with this
I don't expect them to win the tag belts and I will be heartbroken when MJF inevitably turns, but if Tony were to pivot and actually give them the belts it wouldn't be the worst thing...
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 19, 2023 21:14:49 GMT -5
This was the first segment they had that wasn’t that funny being at a restaurant.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 19, 2023 21:16:57 GMT -5
I adore that they made a double clothesline into a hot spot.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 19, 2023 21:18:31 GMT -5
This was the first segment they had that wasn’t that funny being at a restaurant. Disagree, thought the material was great and then they killed the waiter in a drunken clothesline stupor All I needed lol
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Post by jm on Jul 19, 2023 21:18:41 GMT -5
They can't break up anytime soon. They need to stay together and have a run with the Tag Titles. Breaking them up at this point would be promotional malpractice.
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Jul 19, 2023 21:19:33 GMT -5
If we just go back to same old bullshit with MJF I will have lost immense faith in Tony Khan.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 19, 2023 21:20:05 GMT -5
They can't break up anytime soon. They need to stay together and have a run with the Tag Titles. Breaking them up at this point would be promotional malpractice. I mean it'd main event All In if they broke up now and be a white hot feud of emotional turmoil behind it, but I get it I wouldn't be shocked if TK's debating this or has already pivoted, MJF having at least one world title defense as a pseudo face with Cole hyping him on wouldn't be the worst idea, especially if they use Roderick Strong for it given how he's been very upset at how this has been developing
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 19, 2023 21:20:48 GMT -5
If we just go back to same old bullshit with MJF I will have lost immense faith in Tony Khan. Even if MJF turns idk if it'll be exactly the same... I feel like the match would have MJF second guessing a lot of things and the choice he made in betraying another person who legitimately cared for him.
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Post by jm on Jul 19, 2023 21:31:54 GMT -5
They can't break up anytime soon. They need to stay together and have a run with the Tag Titles. Breaking them up at this point would be promotional malpractice. I mean it'd main event All In if they broke up now and be a white hot feud of emotional turmoil behind it, but I get it I wouldn't be shocked if TK's debating this or has already pivoted, MJF having at least one world title defense as a pseudo face with Cole hyping him on wouldn't be the worst idea, especially if they use Roderick Strong for it given how he's been very upset at how this has been developing I seriously hope and pray TK has pivoted from his original plan. When something is this hot and working so well, you don't just end it and cut it off all of a sudden for HEATZ!!!!! WWE has done that for 20 years. I hope TK has learned from WWE's mistakes.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Jul 19, 2023 22:03:32 GMT -5
Isn’t this how the Rock n Sock connection went? They set it up for them to split and feud but the fans didn’t want that so the team continued.
Any other examples?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jul 19, 2023 22:11:27 GMT -5
MJF - The most over face in wrestling.
Dominick Mysterio & Don Callis - The most over heels in wrestling.
JUST AS WE ALL PREDICTED!
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 19, 2023 23:17:22 GMT -5
Imagine if MJF just stayed a face.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jul 20, 2023 0:46:24 GMT -5
I’m with the consensus here. We all know where this is headed but…not yet. Please. Give them some time and let MJF be a face for a bit.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 20, 2023 0:47:12 GMT -5
It still feels to me that Cole is intentionally stringing Max along and will be the one doing the betraying. He's booked as too much of a smart babyface to fall for the 23rd fake babyface MJF act.
...however, this may need to be a case of the original plans changing. They've become the most over tag team in a company full of extremely over tag teams.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jul 20, 2023 0:48:25 GMT -5
God I want them to two man power trip this so bad.
Give Cole the TNT/International title, have them win the tag belts and see what happens.
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