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Post by J is Justice on Aug 6, 2023 12:40:49 GMT -5
I've never been so invested in a battle royal, lol.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Aug 6, 2023 12:46:52 GMT -5
Never tasted Slim Jim's before, kind of want to order different varities after this match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 13:55:02 GMT -5
I’d agree that his wrestling really isn’t memorable but you can’t deny how over he is.
I used to hate watch Impact circa 2015 for the memes/shitposting here but I thought Eli Drake was entertaining. Even if he stays where he’s at on the card, it’s still amazing he made it this far from the depths of post-Spike Impact and NWA.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Aug 6, 2023 14:13:51 GMT -5
This thread haha, the OP would probably have asked how The Rock got over back in the day.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 6, 2023 14:26:33 GMT -5
I don't know why, but I get reminded of Scott Hall whenever I hear LA Knight talk. In a good way, that is.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Aug 6, 2023 15:57:18 GMT -5
No it's not ironic, the dude literally gets some of the biggest pops of the show, and has everyone going "YEAH!" for everything he says He's got a great charisma about him that isn't duplicatable, and it connects to a crowd and they want to see him succeed, this isn't hard and threads like this are exhausting lol People were doing the "YEAH!" chants before Blood and Guts a few weeks ago. Dude is over. I personally like him, he's one of the NWA/Impact's top players in Wrestling Goes Elite for a reason. He's got something a lot of guys just don't.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Aug 6, 2023 16:14:12 GMT -5
LA Knight's spent almost a decade now making me look dumb as hell for every time I've ever thought he couldn't reach that Next level. There's nothing ironic about it. Go back and watch LA Knight's super brief time in NXT 2.0 where he literally had the crowd glazing his meat as hard as he does right now in even less time than on the main roster.
They had this dude at the press conference last night, maybe his first one ever, and he f***ing crushed it like he had done it 10000 times before.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 6, 2023 18:15:27 GMT -5
I don’t know why it’s taken this before he started winning matches. Dude talks like that and looks like that in Vince land and he was treated like a jobber?
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Post by chazraps on Aug 6, 2023 18:34:54 GMT -5
I don’t know why it’s taken this before he started winning matches. Dude talks like that and looks like that in Vince land and he was treated like a jobber? History shows Vince doesn't like anything that looks/acts like something Vince himself could have created but didn't regardless of quality or fan support.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Aug 6, 2023 19:01:19 GMT -5
Ryback was once over, too. And? Ryback was also a f***ing moron that cost himself opportunities, don't get what you're going for here. It's simple: the Knight hype train reminds me of the Ryback hype train. Easy-to-chant catchphrases? Check. The WWE look? Check. Being capable enough only to do the things expected of them in a match but not really doing anything else outside of that repertoire to look impressive? Check. I'm not knocking it; I didn't get how or why Ryback was over in 2012, but came to think he could have been a guy to beat Punk for the belt. Except he wasn't. And he could have been the guy to give the Shield their first L. Except he wasn't. Actually, his overness got fed to the Shield. And he could have had a Wrestlemania moment by beating Mark Henry, except he jobbed, again. And then he turned heel and became Cena's bitch throughout the spring of 2013. Could Knight be more than a flash in the pan, which Ryback was in that limited window of opportunity? Of course. But someone like Dolph Ziggler, around the same time period as Ryback here, was also mega over, and look where he is now. I might even put Kofi Kingston on this list after how quickly down the card he sank after he dropped the belt to Lesnar. Certainly Zack Ryder could also be a name in this conversation. Damien Sandow? Stop me, oh, stop me, stop me if you've heard this one before... Anyway, overness is worthless if there's no meaningful follow-through, no matter how limited someone may be on the ring or on the mic. And WWE has whiffed on striking when the iron is hot for many years now. Maybe Knight is so over because so many other guys have been sacrificed at the altar of Roman Reigns that the fans, less out of irony and more out of compensation, decided to buy into some new face who hasn't (yet) choked when it mattered the most that they win? Who else is there left for them to cheer for who is a fresh face on the scene? I invoke Ryback as a cautionary tale, and one worth remembering before we get high on the hopium that Knight will somehow be the guy to beat Reigns, and at Wrestlemania 40 no less. (These are points I've read on the internet.) If we get there, then we get there, but for right now, this feels to me too much like WWE is Lucying the football for my liking. I'm into the Knight hype train, even if I don't honestly get it, but it's on WWE, and on Knight himself to a lesser extent, to prove me wrong.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 6, 2023 19:04:48 GMT -5
And? Ryback was also a f***ing moron that cost himself opportunities, don't get what you're going for here. It's simple: the Knight hype train reminds me of the Ryback hype train. Easy-to-chant catchphrases? Check. The WWE look? Check. Being capable enough only to do the things expected of them in a match but not really doing anything else outside of that repertoire to look impressive? Check. I'm not knocking it; I didn't get how or why Ryback was over in 2012, but came to think he could have been a guy to beat Punk for the belt. Except he wasn't. And he could have been the guy to give the Shield their first L. Except he wasn't. Actually, his overness got fed to the Shield. And he could have had a Wrestlemania moment by beating Mark Henry, except he jobbed, again. And then he turned heel and became Cena's bitch throughout the spring of 2013. Could Knight be more than a flash in the pan, which Ryback was in that limited window of opportunity? Of course. But someone like Dolph Ziggler, around the same time period as Ryback here, was also mega over, and look where he is now. I might even put Kofi Kingston on this list after how quickly down the card he sank after he dropped the belt to Lesnar. Certainly Zack Ryder could also be a name in this conversation. Damien Sandow? Stop me, oh, stop me, stop me if you've heard this one before... Anyway, overness is worthless if there's no meaningful follow-through, no matter how limited someone may be on the ring or on the mic. And WWE has whiffed on striking when the iron is hot for many years now. Maybe Knight is so over because so many other guys have been sacrificed at the altar of Roman Reigns that the fans, less out of irony and more out of compensation, decided to buy into some new face who hasn't (yet) choked when it mattered the most that they win? Who else is there left for them to cheer for who is a fresh face on the scene? I invoke Ryback as a cautionary tale, and one worth remembering before we get high on the hopium that Knight will somehow be the guy to beat Reigns, and at Wrestlemania 40 no less. (These are points I've read on the internet.) If we get there, then we get there, but for right now, this feels to me too much like WWE is Lucying the football for my liking. I'm into the Knight hype train, even if I don't honestly get it, but it's on WWE, and on Knight himself to a lesser extent, to prove me wrong. I still think people who say this ignore Knight has gotten this gimmick over and kept it over now in NWA, Impact, NXT, and now WWE Like the dude clearly has something that has worked and passed an eye test of completely different crowds each time, I think he's gonna be fine. I also think he's a better worker than Ryback is, he's not the flashiest guy but he gets the job done against a lot of different style types.
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Post by ARI WOW WOW on Aug 7, 2023 0:07:35 GMT -5
Hes a good wrestler, great promo, comes off likable and cool, has been putting over people left and right and wasn't being given a lot of wins and was fed to Bray in a product placement match, which he did'nt deserve. Sure, i'll cheer him.
Here's my detailed analysis:
Lets break down of what makes someone a superstar in 2023 (IMO) and why LA Knight is getting over:
Wrestling ability All you need is to be decent, if there's something else of the following that makes you stand out. Knight is good enough, besides, there are a lot of good wrestlers on the roster, what else do you got?
Mic skills One of the key skills anybody would need to come off as charismatic. Knight's great. Character Something you need to have to give people a reason to like you, hate you or fear you, or find you amusing, etc. His character is that he considers himself a megastar. He's full of himself. Not a good enough reason to like or hate someone, he's overconfident. Okay.
Aesthetic/perception: If you look like a star that'll help you a lot. Other than that, you need to at least not be uncool, or have been sold as a loser in the past for fans to have a prior proverbial bad taste. Knight is fresh and hasn't been marketed as a loser/jobber.
Recognition: In 2023, people significantly value the company's treatment of the talent. Fans are gonna get behind you if they feel you're not being given your due respect by the company and fight for you.
Overall likability The guy works hard, isn't known to be an a-hole, is cool and kind to people in his real world interactions, qualifies as likable.
Earned respect The guy has been paying his dues since a while now and is good enough to be given a chance and a spotlight. He "DESERVES IT".
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 7, 2023 1:13:17 GMT -5
LA Knight just proves to me that wrestling has passed me by. I don't know what people like these days and nothing about LA Knight excites me.
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Post by thechase on Aug 7, 2023 2:48:09 GMT -5
LA Knight just proves to me that wrestling has passed me by. I don't know what people like these days and nothing about LA Knight excites me. I see an argument made LA Knight is appreciated even more by people who are the same age as him. And we've seen how Batista skyrocketed despite an advanced age for the business.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 7, 2023 5:23:14 GMT -5
I like him. His charisma is obvious. That being said though, he really needs a major feud so that his promos can have some focus as the generic chant-a-longs might get old pretty fast.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 7, 2023 6:37:00 GMT -5
One thing I learned from attending Summerslam: anyone posting things like “LA Knight is over ironically”, “Cody Rhodes is Lord Emperor of Bitchasylvania”, “The Bloodline needs to wrap up”…you are flat-out wrong. It is absolutely insane how over these men are with the crowd.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 7, 2023 8:28:41 GMT -5
I don't love the guy and I don't think he's particularly good in the ring, but if the people like the guy - and the merch and reactions suggest they do - you have to go with the guy.
He shouldn't be getting prioritized over Cody, but I think he's a really solid #2 on Smackdown. I could see him being a lead babyface on RAW for a few years.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 7, 2023 8:37:25 GMT -5
I don't love the guy and I don't think he's particularly good in the ring, but if the people like the guy - and the merch and reactions suggest they do - you have to go with the guy. He shouldn't be getting prioritized over Cody, but I think he's a really solid #2 on Smackdown. I could see him being a lead babyface on RAW for a few years. Like, I don't think he has as long a shelf-life is that but honestly, the big problem with the wrestling business (and every major promotion does it) is that they're so wary of just going with a guy and giving people what they want all for telling the story they want when it doesn't really benefit them to do so. You might as well build some goodwill up and down the card so if people buy LA Knight merch, have him win the US title. See what happens. If it flops, well, you took a risk and there's enough surrounding him to still grab people's interest. USA Network and FOX aren't going to cancel your show if a 40 something dude the crowd likes gets a little bit of a push and might not hit it in the same way. Akira Tozawa could beat Roman tonight on Raw for the Undisputed Belt and NBC Universal are going to give WWE a contract to stop RAW and NXT from leaving.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 7, 2023 8:40:24 GMT -5
I don't love the guy and I don't think he's particularly good in the ring, but if the people like the guy - and the merch and reactions suggest they do - you have to go with the guy. He shouldn't be getting prioritized over Cody, but I think he's a really solid #2 on Smackdown. I could see him being a lead babyface on RAW for a few years. Like, I don't think he has as long a shelf-life is that but honestly, the big problem with the wrestling business (and every major promotion does it) is that they're so wary of just going with a guy and giving people what they want all for telling the story they want when it doesn't really benefit them to do so. You might as well build some goodwill up and down the card so if people buy LA Knight merch, have him win the US title. See what happens. If it flops, well, you took a risk and there's enough surrounding him to still grab people's interest. USA Network and FOX aren't going to cancel your show if a 40 something dude the crowd likes gets a little bit of a push and might not hit it in the same way. Akira Tozawa could beat Roman tonight on Raw for the Undisputed Belt and NBC Universal are going to give WWE a contract to stop RAW and NXT from leaving. My hope is they're going to use this battle royal win to get us to LA Knight vs. Theory at Payback assuming that Escobar doesn't beat Theory first. I'd get that - lots of stuff going on at SummerSlam and him winning on Payback has a chance of breathing and being seen as more of a moment.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 7, 2023 8:42:53 GMT -5
Like, I don't think he has as long a shelf-life is that but honestly, the big problem with the wrestling business (and every major promotion does it) is that they're so wary of just going with a guy and giving people what they want all for telling the story they want when it doesn't really benefit them to do so. You might as well build some goodwill up and down the card so if people buy LA Knight merch, have him win the US title. See what happens. If it flops, well, you took a risk and there's enough surrounding him to still grab people's interest. USA Network and FOX aren't going to cancel your show if a 40 something dude the crowd likes gets a little bit of a push and might not hit it in the same way. Akira Tozawa could beat Roman tonight on Raw for the Undisputed Belt and NBC Universal are going to give WWE a contract to stop RAW and NXT from leaving. My hope is they're going to use this battle royal win to get us to LA Knight vs. Theory at Payback assuming that Escobar doesn't beat Theory first. I'd get that - lots of stuff going on at SummerSlam and him winning on Payback has a chance of breathing and being seen as more of a moment. That is the hope and in that context it makes sense.
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