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Post by Fake Jesus on Sept 6, 2023 13:00:02 GMT -5
It honestly shocks me that here of all places there's anybody who thinks assault is a justified reaction to non-violent action. Fortunately, it's an extreme minority of users. Unfortunately, the mods tend to "both sides" it hence the locking of the two scrum threads.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 6, 2023 13:00:22 GMT -5
You can't poke the bear, brah! F*** around and find out! I can't believe Tony didn't fire The Bucks, Hangman, and Jack! THINK OF THE T-SHIRT SALES, BRAH!!!"
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2023 13:03:31 GMT -5
It honestly shocks me that here of all places there's anybody who thinks assault is a justified reaction to non-violent action. Fortunately, it's an extreme minority of users. Unfortunately, the mods tend to "both sides" it hence the locking of the two scrum threads. Or a mod you know. Enter the thread, set a flame to it and no mod will say anything about it.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2023 13:08:18 GMT -5
Good thng at the end TK sided with the Elite.
Could just be confirmation bias, but this is the exact type of attitude I expect from a Narcissist and I expected from Punk. They dont want someone that hurts their ego, they are going full scorched earth to "win"
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 6, 2023 13:12:01 GMT -5
Honestly, if I was Punk, I'd actually feel kind of embarrassed if peoples' defense of me was "Have you considered if he gets mad, he's not liable for his own actions? We all know he's a huge pissbaby, so people should have walked on eggshells with him! It's their fault he got mad and then just lost complete control." Like, how embarrassing has that got to be?
Then again, his self-righteousness means he probably agrees with that rationale.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2023 13:16:46 GMT -5
Glad he finally did it but he should have done this when it first happened instead of trying to placate him by giving him everything inlcuding basically his own show.
So he will forever have that on his bitch card.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2023 13:18:09 GMT -5
Honestly, if I was Punk, I'd actually feel kind of embarrassed if peoples' defense of me was "Have you considered if he gets mad, he's not liable for his own actions? We all know he's a huge pissbaby, so people should have walked on eggshells with him! It's their fault he got mad and then just lost complete control." Like, how embarrassing has that got to be? Then again, his self-righteousness means he probably agrees with that rationale. I "get" the defense. There is people that are going to constantly harass and bother people ,until they snap.The issue is that there is nothing to indicate anything happened to poke Punk except one line from Perry, which he got his suspension from the part of it. if anything Punk definitely showed he was the side to do it.
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Post by jm on Sept 6, 2023 13:19:05 GMT -5
Fortunately, it's an extreme minority of users. Unfortunately, the mods tend to "both sides" it hence the locking of the two scrum threads. Or a mod you know. Enter the thread, set a flame to it and no mod will say anything about it. I never thought I'd add a mod to my block list, but I ended up having to do it after that.
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 6, 2023 13:37:05 GMT -5
I don't think Khan sided with anyone. I don't think he sided with Punk when he brought back Punk and made him the focus of Collision and I don't think he sided with the Elite when he resigned them either. I think Khan was just doing what he thought was best for AEW, which was having them all in the company. Obviously, that didn't work out because of /insert link to the Punk threads/ but in a perfect world where everyone acts like adults and only fights when they're staged fights in a wrestling ring, AEW was stronger with both Punk and the Elite.
And I honestly don't know why this discussion keeps coming back to the Elite. I'm still yet to see anything that says they had any involvement in what happened at All In beyond unhinged conspiracy theories. They still exist, I guess?
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Post by markymark on Sept 6, 2023 13:37:25 GMT -5
Glad he finally did it but he should have done this when it first happened instead of trying to placate him by giving him everything inlcuding basically his own show. So he will forever have that on his bitch card.
After the latest Collision rating I could understand why he tried to get what was remaining of Punk drawing power but now he can give that power to Danielson.
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Post by humanoid33 on Sept 6, 2023 13:39:41 GMT -5
Absolutely the right decision, the guy already embarrassed you on a big stage once but to make a mockery of himself and the second chance you gave him, at the biggest show of the company’s history, bringing bad press when it should have been about achieving a phenomenal feat.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Sept 6, 2023 13:41:14 GMT -5
Honestly, if I was Punk, I'd actually feel kind of embarrassed if peoples' defense of me was "Have you considered if he gets mad, he's not liable for his own actions? We all know he's a huge pissbaby, so people should have walked on eggshells with him! It's their fault he got mad and then just lost complete control." Like, how embarrassing has that got to be? Then again, his self-righteousness means he probably agrees with that rationale. I "get" the defense. There is people that are going to constantly harass and bother people ,until they snap.The issue is that there is nothing to indicate anything happened to poke Punk except one line from Perry, which he got his suspension from the part of it. if anything Punk definitely showed he was the side to do it. But enough about me
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Post by eJm on Sept 6, 2023 13:46:29 GMT -5
I don't think Khan sided with anyone. I don't think he sided with Punk when he brought back Punk and made him the focus of Collision and I don't think he sided with the Elite when he resigned them either. I think Khan was just doing what he thought was best for AEW, which was having them all in the company. Obviously, that didn't work out because of /insert link to the Punk threads/ but in a perfect world where everyone acts like adults and only fights when they're staged fights in a wrestling ring, AEW was stronger with both Punk and the Elite. And I honestly don't know why this discussion keeps coming back to the Elite. I'm still yet to see anything that says they had any involvement in what happened at All In beyond unhinged conspiracy theories. They still exist, I guess? The other thing to factor is that WBD probably wanted Khan to find some kind of solution to the longest time, hence having him more involved in the newly established Collision, in a way to hopefully keep the peace and keep the goal of having a recognizable name that they can push. It likely got to a point even the people involved with Turner were like “Yeah, this just isn’t worth it anymore, we’re happy for you to cut ties” and try to figure something out, especially since the Elite were re-signed anyway and they were people WBD wanted to keep anyway.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Sept 6, 2023 14:16:09 GMT -5
Fortunately, it's an extreme minority of users. Unfortunately, the mods tend to "both sides" it hence the locking of the two scrum threads. Or a mod you know. Enter the thread, set a flame to it and no mod will say anything about it. Didn't even realize that guy was a mod. There are a lot of people with green names who barely interact with the forum these days so it's hard to remember them
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Post by Stu on Sept 6, 2023 14:18:01 GMT -5
Fortunately, it's an extreme minority of users. Unfortunately, the mods tend to "both sides" it hence the locking of the two scrum threads. Or a mod you know. Enter the thread, set a flame to it and no mod will say anything about it. Perhaps you should blame forum members who cannot help themselves and bicker in a thread despite repeated requests by mods to keep things civil.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2023 14:25:38 GMT -5
Or a mod you know. Enter the thread, set a flame to it and no mod will say anything about it. Perhaps you should blame forum members who cannot help themselves and bicker in a thread despite repeated requests by mods to keep things civil. I do, maybe I should have used * and* to avoid semantics. Does t help that's about three times a mod came in ,insulted people ,which treated or or this case started a sequence that caused people to become angry. And yes they should be held accountable ,multiple people have said for then to behave politely. Unlike the mods. Which are supposed to avoid conflict not spark it
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Post by Stu on Sept 6, 2023 14:39:41 GMT -5
Perhaps you should blame forum members who cannot help themselves and bicker in a thread despite repeated requests by mods to keep things civil. I do, maybe I should have used * and* to avoid semantics. Does t help that's about three times a mod came in ,insulted people ,which treated or or this case started a sequence that caused people to become angry. And yes they should be held accountable ,multiple people have said for then to behave politely. Unlike the mods. Which are supposed to avoid conflict not spark it Considering it took nine months and 856 pages for that thread to get locked, I'd say mods did a good job handling things. And I haven't seen the posts you're referring to. But you'll have to forgive us for allowing our our frustrations to get the better of us now and then, and recognize we sometimes need to remove the kid gloves and tell everyone straight up to knock it off.
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Post by markymark on Sept 6, 2023 14:39:53 GMT -5
So I assume KO and Sami wouldve been in AEW last year if it wasnt for Punk?
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Post by ARI WOW WOW on Sept 6, 2023 14:40:16 GMT -5
Well, I'll just say that I am a fan of Punk, Perry, Kenny, FTR, Hung Bucks, et al. I didn't justify assault. I don't care that much about any one side of this celebrity feud. As I said, in my opinion, multiple parties have played some role to all of this. There could be multiple wrongs of varying degrees, right? Or there may not be, I may be wrong, I'm not convincing anyone, I'm not propagating anything, I just expressed my opinion.
And as "REAL GLASS, MOTHER******" (BIG POP!) asked, to me, that Hangman promo sort of marked the beginning of all of this. Again, love the Hangman, don't think he should have done that, that promo was all sorts of wrong, to me.
Anyway, .. love yalls' passion. Take it easy fam.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2023 14:42:24 GMT -5
I do, maybe I should have used * and* to avoid semantics. Does t help that's about three times a mod came in ,insulted people ,which treated or or this case started a sequence that caused people to become angry. And yes they should be held accountable ,multiple people have said for then to behave politely. Unlike the mods. Which are supposed to avoid conflict not spark it Considering it took nine months and 856 pages for that thread to get locked, I'd say mods did a good job handling things. And I haven't seen the posts you're referring to. But you'll have to forgive us for allowing our our frustrations to get the better of us now and then, and recognize we sometimes need to remove the kid gloves and tell everyone straight up to knock it off. And forgive me and recognize when we notice a pattern of one or more mods doing something when they shouldn't we will speak up. At any point I complained about being stern? No At any point I said that there didn't need to be action or you never did any good job? No. You don't like I say mods on a general term when it was a couple of problems mods? Well I think that would be hypcrital given how the situations are handled
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