Bischoff: Fire Jack Perry. He’s not a star & never will be

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

right when bischoff was making a lot of really good points

oh well! saw that coming

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 8, 2023 6:36:36 GMT -5 CeilingFan said:

Of the 4 Pillars, Perry is the only one that is expendable.

No he f***ing isn't, and this is a disgusting comment tbh

These people ain't toys you can analyze and decide which one "Can go the easiest" because Bischoff's being a dick.

[Zone Was Wrong]

I don't get the Jack Perry hate all the sudden. Like, sure his heel run started uneven, but like the dude is talented as hell and has been showing a ton of improvement with his mannerisms and such. He's 26 and he's this good! Like maybe wait for him to grow into his own skin and potentially writing him off for a stupid comment. This isn't Brian Pillman Jr here, there is still a ton of upside to the former JB.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Sept 8, 2023 14:50:54 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

I don't get the Jack Perry hate all the sudden. Like, sure his heel run started uneven, but like the dude is talented as hell and has been showing a ton of improvement with his mannerisms and such. He's 26 and he's this good! Like maybe wait for him to grow into his own skin and potentially writing him off for a stupid comment. This isn't Brian Pillman Jr here, there is still a ton of upside to the former JB.

same thing happened with the bucks with the first incident and hangman too

it could be literally anyone on the roster and they'd find a way to hate them, perry just happens to be someone who really hasn't found his place in the company or lived up to the expectations given to him yet

and that yet is important, he is good

[LiamMcDuggle]

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

[Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen]

Stop giving these dickheads attention. Seriously.

[salz4life]

Sept 8, 2023 15:05:11 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

Same goes with the sports hot takes shows. I'm betting even some political hot take shows are the same.

[Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen]

Sept 8, 2023 15:14:57 GMT -5 salz4life said:

Sept 8, 2023 15:05:11 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

Same goes with the sports hot takes shows. I'm betting even some political hot take shows are the same.

*cough*Charly Caruso*cough*

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 8, 2023 15:05:11 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

That's why Cornette is banned here, and if this keeps up maybe Bischoff's shit should be too.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Sept 8, 2023 13:41:18 GMT -5 Dave the Dave said:

I don’t really even like Jungle Boy but like, what a dumb opinion.

I don’t like Adam Cole but I can put aside my personal tastes to see most people do. Take your head out of your ass Eric.

While I was still fairly high on babyface Jungle Boy after the Four Pillars program, a heel turn at that point wasn’t gonna hurt him- many of the all time greats like Eddie Guerrero, Savage, HBK were 50/50 equally skilled at playing both parts since a good villain run can make the later face turn more assertive.

And before Brocachos I could see Adam Cole was a solid talent, but he’s gotten to show his true range big time as of late.

[The Ichi]

Because if anyone knows star potential, it's the guy that let Steve Austin go.

[Dub H]

Sept 8, 2023 16:22:00 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 8, 2023 15:05:11 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

That's why Cornette is banned here, and if this keeps up maybe Bischoff's shit should be too.

There is more to why Cornette threads are banned here.

1-People getting really heated defending him.

2- Racism/Sexism from his podcasts

[Rave]

Sept 8, 2023 16:22:00 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 8, 2023 15:05:11 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

I will note, many of these podcast hosts have these takes, not because they truly believe them, but because they know it generates clicks. Bischoff is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. He knows what he's doing

That's why Cornette is banned here, and if this keeps up maybe Bischoff's shit should be too.

I still think Konnan should be banned, just as much for that as for providing a platform for an already banned source to spread more bull.

[Mozenrath]

Sept 8, 2023 17:22:00 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Sept 8, 2023 16:22:00 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

That's why Cornette is banned here, and if this keeps up maybe Bischoff's shit should be too.

There is more to why Cornette threads are banned here.

1-People getting really heated defending him.

2- Racism/Sexism from his podcasts

Yeah, which is also why, for a while anyway, I am pretty sure Russo threads were also discouraged for a spell. Maybe Val Venis, too, given he's honestly maybe a worse person than Cornette and Russo. I mean, I'll say without hesitation he's a worse person than Cornette, and Cornette by his own admission is an attempted murderer.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 8, 2023 17:22:00 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Sept 8, 2023 16:22:00 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

That's why Cornette is banned here, and if this keeps up maybe Bischoff's shit should be too.

There is more to why Cornette threads are banned here.

1-People getting really heated defending him.

2- Racism/Sexism from his podcasts

True, though I still think dumbass takes like this really just have one response, the dude's being an ass and trying to funnel clicks and attention to themselves

Don't we have a referendum on Russo stuff as well due to this? At least at one point. I'm not saying Cornette isn't worse, he is, but guys like Bischoff and Konnan really just like saying shit for the same of stirring shit.

[mrbananagrabber]

I’ve never bought into him only being famous because of his Dad. He didn’t try to become an actor, he went down a completely different path. He didn’t trade on the name, he was mostly known as Jungle Boy. He didn’t try to make a gimmick remotely based on anything his Dad ever did, and not to be unkind, his Dad wasn’t exactly Tom Cruise to begin with.

That being said, the biggest star the company has ever had is gone, his own fault, granted, but if I’m Tony Khan I’d be like Homer silently looking at Marge thinking “a million dollars, my wife cost me a million dollars.” Like, if you hadn’t hit out with that “cry me a river” bullshit my top star would still be here.

He doesn’t deserve to get fired, suspended is enough. Be interesting to see where he goes from here though.

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Sept 8, 2023 17:50:45 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

I’ve never bought into him only being famous because of his Dad. He didn’t try to become an actor, he went down a completely different path. He didn’t trade on the name, he was mostly known as Jungle Boy. He didn’t try to make a gimmick remotely based on anything his Dad ever did, and not to be unkind, his Dad wasn’t exactly Tom Cruise to begin with.

That being said, the biggest star the company has ever had is gone, his own fault, granted, but if I’m Tony Khan I’d be like Homer silently looking at Marge thinking “a million dollars, my wife cost me a million dollars.” Like, if you hadn’t hit out with that “cry me a river” bullshit my top star would still be here.

He doesn’t deserve to get fired, suspended is enough. Be interesting to see where he goes from here though.

He may not but the company, especially in the beginning, made sure to reference it every single time he was on the screen nearly to where it became the defacto answer as to why he has that spot for some people.

[Dub H]

Sept 8, 2023 17:50:45 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

I’ve never bought into him only being famous because of his Dad. He didn’t try to become an actor, he went down a completely different path. He didn’t trade on the name, he was mostly known as Jungle Boy. He didn’t try to make a gimmick remotely based on anything his Dad ever did, and not to be unkind, his Dad wasn’t exactly Tom Cruise to begin with.

That being said, the biggest star the company has ever had is gone, his own fault, granted, but if I’m Tony Khan I’d be like Homer silently looking at Marge thinking “a million dollars, my wife cost me a million dollars.” Like, if you hadn’t hit out with that “cry me a river” bullshit my top star would still be here.

He doesn’t deserve to get fired, suspended is enough. Be interesting to see where he goes from here though.

I honestly think the fact they felt the need to change him to Jack Perry to play into the name is a detriment.

dude should have been Jungle Man 4 Life.He should have legit been someone that grew up in the jungle and that Luchasaurus adopted

[mrbananagrabber]

Sept 8, 2023 17:56:15 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Sept 8, 2023 17:50:45 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

I’ve never bought into him only being famous because of his Dad. He didn’t try to become an actor, he went down a completely different path. He didn’t trade on the name, he was mostly known as Jungle Boy. He didn’t try to make a gimmick remotely based on anything his Dad ever did, and not to be unkind, his Dad wasn’t exactly Tom Cruise to begin with.

That being said, the biggest star the company has ever had is gone, his own fault, granted, but if I’m Tony Khan I’d be like Homer silently looking at Marge thinking “a million dollars, my wife cost me a million dollars.” Like, if you hadn’t hit out with that “cry me a river” bullshit my top star would still be here.

He doesn’t deserve to get fired, suspended is enough. Be interesting to see where he goes from here though.

I honestly think the fact they felt the need to change him to Jack Perry to play into the name is a detriment.

dude should have been Jungle Man 4 Life.He should have legit been someone that grew up in the jungle and that Luchasaurus adopted

It’s wrestling, Nature Boy, Heartbreak Kid..he could’ve been Jungle Boy forever.

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Sept 8, 2023 17:56:15 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Sept 8, 2023 17:50:45 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

I’ve never bought into him only being famous because of his Dad. He didn’t try to become an actor, he went down a completely different path. He didn’t trade on the name, he was mostly known as Jungle Boy. He didn’t try to make a gimmick remotely based on anything his Dad ever did, and not to be unkind, his Dad wasn’t exactly Tom Cruise to begin with.

That being said, the biggest star the company has ever had is gone, his own fault, granted, but if I’m Tony Khan I’d be like Homer silently looking at Marge thinking “a million dollars, my wife cost me a million dollars.” Like, if you hadn’t hit out with that “cry me a river” bullshit my top star would still be here.

He doesn’t deserve to get fired, suspended is enough. Be interesting to see where he goes from here though.

I honestly think the fact they felt the need to change him to Jack Perry to play into the name is a detriment.

dude should have been Jungle Man 4 Life.He should have legit been someone that grew up in the jungle and that Luchasaurus adopted

Agreed I feel the same way...The gimmick wasn't the problem because they were still always portraying him as the "son of Luke Perry" and nothing revolving around the gimmick really post split from Lucha.