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Post by bob on Dec 2, 2023 19:39:38 GMT -5
Ric Flair has never tweeted anything as amazing as this. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}f*** 'em both though, of course.  |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Dec 2, 2023 21:12:12 GMT -5
hey just sayin follow the rules. |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 2, 2023 22:03:45 GMT -5
It's a side thing but I'll never stop rolling my eyes at wrestlers whining about dirt sheets because at the end of the day it's really just bitching that journalism covering their sport exists. Yeah how often do you hear about like a baseball player complaining that a sports journalist is talking about their contract options I dunno, wrestlers yelling at dirtsheets is pretty tame compared to some of the crap guys like Jamal Adams do. |
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Post by Mecca on Dec 2, 2023 22:13:16 GMT -5
hey just sayin follow the rules. I wasn't trying to go into a political debate. I was staring a fact. We as a country elected someone not that much different than Ric Flair as President, it was a commentary on why people forgive or seem to not care about allegations like that. |
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Post by markymark on Dec 2, 2023 22:15:59 GMT -5
Ric Flair has never tweeted anything as amazing as this. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}f*** 'em both though, of course.
Hogan asking for toilet paper last year was so random and yet hilarious
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 2, 2023 23:47:12 GMT -5
Not that I'm defending the guy, but Hulk Hogan was raked over the coals for backstage politics, getting his friends hired and burying people he didn't like, but those are all things someone like Flair did as well. People really would hand wave anything as long as someone has workrate. Even Dave Meltzer for years would take Flair's side on any situation that was happening, simply because he was a mark for the guy. yeah that's part of what i was thinking of when i made the post, how is it that hogan gets destroyed yet wrestlers fall over themselves for this guy? its just weird. they were both ultra popular and the reaction couldn't be more different My guess is Hogan isn't as personable as flair. Hogan strikes me as a person that is fake. Like he is playing hulk hogan. Flair feels real if that makes sense. So when hogan politics he will straight up lie to you, Flair will do it infront of tour face |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 3, 2023 9:10:51 GMT -5
hey just sayin follow the rules. I wasn't trying to go into a political debate. I was staring a fact. We as a country elected someone not that much different than Ric Flair as President, it was a commentary on why people forgive or seem to not care about allegations like that. And since you’re pretty much stating that you don’t care about following rules, that just earned you a warning and two days off. Don’t try something like this again. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 3, 2023 9:17:35 GMT -5
My sources indicate Ric Flair glues a hand made poster to his locker room door every week. Here are the contents: he's going to make all the boyfriend-free girls bleed, wooo! |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 3, 2023 13:22:23 GMT -5
That's the issue really. Why go there and remind people? If it's felt he really has to in charachter then why be so creepily age specific? Just stick to the vaguer partying and picking up schtick. Christian is much younger and a bigger scumbag on screen but even he knows that middle-aged widows are a more suitable target for his affections. Ric has never been able to come to terms with his age or stepping aside etc. In Japan Riki Chosu redid the Sekigun stable..he went from being the lead star the first time around to being a manager mouthpiece the second timr because he was much older. WCW brought the horsemen back in what 98? Flair refused to step back like Chosu did. So at basically 50 years old Flair was out there acting like the party all night playboy. He's never been able to accept that it isn't 1986 anymore when it comes to those things.As an aside, can we just talk about the fact that Ric Flair's gimmick has been tired for so long that half or more of the folks who cut promos about how tired it was back in the 90s have since retired. And here's Ric in his 70s, still stumbling and mumbling like it's still almost half a century ago. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 3, 2023 13:53:30 GMT -5
yeah that's part of what i was thinking of when i made the post, how is it that hogan gets destroyed yet wrestlers fall over themselves for this guy? its just weird. they were both ultra popular and the reaction couldn't be more different My guess is Hogan isn't as personable as flair. Hogan strikes me as a person that is fake. Like he is playing hulk hogan. Flair feels real if that makes sense. So when hogan politics he will straight up lie to you, Flair will do it infront of tour face Also for all his many, many sins, Flair never pushed the biggest draw in the history of the business out of WCW because he felt threatened by his potential like Hogan did. |
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 3, 2023 19:35:29 GMT -5
Also for all his many, many sins, Flair never pushed the biggest draw in the history of the business out of WCW because he felt threatened by his potential like Hogan did. Who was that, that Hogan did that to? It sounds like Austin but I don't see how he is related to Hogan in WCW. WCW got the most the could out of Austin in WCW and WWF/E got the most they could out of him as well. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 3, 2023 19:49:36 GMT -5
Also for all his many, many sins, Flair never pushed the biggest draw in the history of the business out of WCW because he felt threatened by his potential like Hogan did. Who was that, that Hogan did that to? It sounds like Austin but I don't see how he is related to Hogan in WCW. WCW got the most the could out of Austin in WCW and WWF/E got the most they could out of him as well. If we’re talking the business overall, Austin. I was thinking Goldberg as he was historically big and Hogan (and Nash) eventually f***ed him as well, but he tried to ride WCW out. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 3, 2023 20:22:44 GMT -5
Also for all his many, many sins, Flair never pushed the biggest draw in the history of the business out of WCW because he felt threatened by his potential like Hogan did. Who was that, that Hogan did that to? It sounds like Austin but I don't see how he is related to Hogan in WCW. WCW got the most the could out of Austin in WCW and WWF/E got the most they could out of him as well. Austin. Hogan has him jobbed out to his over the hill friends and made him look worthless. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 3, 2023 21:03:52 GMT -5
What gets me is that even if you want to say Hogan committed worse crimes than Flair (which is kind of a wild opinion, but does seem like one a lot of people seem to operate under), Flair has also done the same shit Hogan did on top of his own issues.
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Post by Fade on Dec 3, 2023 21:09:40 GMT -5
I already know the mob is coming for my head on this one, but if this is truly a place for discussion then all sides deserve equal volume. Let me get these out of the way. - I don't know Ric Flair personally. Never worked with him, never met him, never seen him in real life. - I don't condone the stuff he is alleged to have done. It's not ok and my heart goes out to anyone he is said to have affected. - How you, or anyone else feels about what Ric did is valid and fair and I'm not entitled to take that from you or anyone else. But reading post after post after post of people not only holding Ric's past against him it's bled into people shitting on his friends for supporting him? Has it occurred to anyone that his friends/peers just like the guy? Surely you guys have people in your life who have some pretty messed up pasts who you still love and talk to. Hell, I've done things I wish I never did. There's probably people in this thread itself who've done worse things than what Ric did. Some of these guys (Austin being the one in my mind) have probably had conversations with Ric about this stuff and might know more about how Ric feels than you guys do. Personally I don't really care and it doesn't affect me or my family so I have no vested interest in what Ric Flair does or doesn't do, nor what a group of people on a wrestling forum think about him but I'm also the type of person who stands on what they believe and the toxic groupthink and piggybacking of weird negativity not only in this thread but others is lame to me. I guess I just hate how certain people in public view have to endure so much shit-talking just because they're on TV. Some deserve it but sometimes it's just like, "uncle". What kind of progressive conversation is anyone going to have if we just keep posting screens of his literal friends supporting him and people on here just flatly being like "Wait what how come you don't hate this man you've known for years on end just like I do even though I don't know shit about him or the situation". Idk. Maybe I'm the weird one. Sorry if this rubs anyone the wrong way, that's not my intention. I've been in a position not that long ago where a private area of my life (a messy divorce, don't jump to conclusions) became a public matter, so I've seen first hand how hurtful the comments of others can be. U right on your grand point. I do think flair deserves a decent, hefty amount of criticism. I don’t blame anyone more than tony. The markness in him strikes back. He should know his audience, and this, from a pr point of view online, was never going to look different. But hey, he doesn’t have to give a f***, he can do what he wants 🤷 |
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Post by THE FVNKER on Dec 4, 2023 20:29:29 GMT -5
I already know the mob is coming for my head on this one, but if this is truly a place for discussion then all sides deserve equal volume. Let me get these out of the way. - I don't know Ric Flair personally. Never worked with him, never met him, never seen him in real life. - I don't condone the stuff he is alleged to have done. It's not ok and my heart goes out to anyone he is said to have affected. - How you, or anyone else feels about what Ric did is valid and fair and I'm not entitled to take that from you or anyone else. But reading post after post after post of people not only holding Ric's past against him it's bled into people shitting on his friends for supporting him? Has it occurred to anyone that his friends/peers just like the guy? Surely you guys have people in your life who have some pretty messed up pasts who you still love and talk to. Hell, I've done things I wish I never did. There's probably people in this thread itself who've done worse things than what Ric did. Some of these guys (Austin being the one in my mind) have probably had conversations with Ric about this stuff and might know more about how Ric feels than you guys do. Personally I don't really care and it doesn't affect me or my family so I have no vested interest in what Ric Flair does or doesn't do, nor what a group of people on a wrestling forum think about him but I'm also the type of person who stands on what they believe and the toxic groupthink and piggybacking of weird negativity not only in this thread but others is lame to me. I guess I just hate how certain people in public view have to endure so much shit-talking just because they're on TV. Some deserve it but sometimes it's just like, "uncle". What kind of progressive conversation is anyone going to have if we just keep posting screens of his literal friends supporting him and people on here just flatly being like "Wait what how come you don't hate this man you've known for years on end just like I do even though I don't know shit about him or the situation". Idk. Maybe I'm the weird one. Sorry if this rubs anyone the wrong way, that's not my intention. I've been in a position not that long ago where a private area of my life (a messy divorce, don't jump to conclusions) became a public matter, so I've seen first hand how hurtful the comments of others can be. U right on your grand point. I do think flair deserves a decent, hefty amount of criticism. I don’t blame anyone more than tony. The markness in him strikes back. He should know his audience, and this, from a pr point of view online, was never going to look different. But hey, he doesn’t have to give a f***, he can do what he wants 🤷 For sure. He definitely does. Also while I'm on here I wanna thank everyone who respectfully replied to my post. I don't mean this to sound like how it probably does, but I'm just a big softy. I'm too trusting of people and generally see people as being good (even when they have been awful by all means). It's bitten me in the ass before, I assure yall. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 5, 2023 9:22:23 GMT -5
What gets me is that even if you want to say Hogan committed worse crimes than Flair (which is kind of a wild opinion, but does seem like one a lot of people seem to operate under), Flair has also done the same shit Hogan did on top of his own issues. Hogan SAID terrible things but Ric DID terrible things which IMO is always worse. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 5, 2023 10:01:39 GMT -5
Repeating what I said weeks ago: I wish just once one of his kids, whatever wife he's married to at the moment, or promoter he's trying to sucker would tell him "I love you, but you're 74. Please don't. Just enjoy being alive." instead of enabling the f*** out of him. It's not their responsibility, he's a grown man who makes his own decisions |
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 5, 2023 10:35:19 GMT -5
Who was that, that Hogan did that to? It sounds like Austin but I don't see how he is related to Hogan in WCW. WCW got the most the could out of Austin in WCW and WWF/E got the most they could out of him as well. Austin. Hogan has him jobbed out to his over the hill friends and made him look worthless. Don’t think it had anything to do with Hogan being threatened by Austin’s potential though. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 5, 2023 10:36:22 GMT -5
What gets me is that even if you want to say Hogan committed worse crimes than Flair (which is kind of a wild opinion, but does seem like one a lot of people seem to operate under), Flair has also done the same shit Hogan did on top of his own issues. Hogan SAID terrible things but Ric DID terrible things which IMO is always worse. Yeah I don’t even think it’s debatable. Saying racist things is certainly terrible, but it’s not on the level of actually sexually assaulting someone. |
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