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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 1, 2024 23:14:04 GMT -5
there's so many seats to fill at EC that I feel like doing it at Mania would actually be a super short sighted move. there is a real opening for the new big 4th show after WM/RR/MITB and these crowds outside of the country have been absolutely stellar every time. let them have the rock and show 'em how it is done
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 1, 2024 23:14:40 GMT -5
The family history and the lineage is going to go crazy Hopefully, get some appearances or at least some type of videos from the family commenting on it in the build up That'll be great. Hell, Jimmy's gonna get his ASS KICKED week after week that's for damn sure. “…And that’s different from usual how?” |
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Post by bearned on Jan 1, 2024 23:16:19 GMT -5
No disrespect to Cody but on just about every level Rock and Roman is the better mania main event.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 1, 2024 23:16:37 GMT -5
This is a different company now, though. They want these major international PLE’s to feel like WrestleMania’s in their own right. Mania will be a huge money maker no matter what and it’s in an especially hot market. This is the chance to make a big statement about what these international shows could mean going forward. If you do Roman/Rock in Australia, you could wind up in a situation where countries are bidding or paying big, big bucks for what used to be “B shows.” I think in a world where WWE was really US-centric, yes, do it at Mania, but it’s a different world. On the other hand, the Australia show is already sold out. WrestleMania has way more financial incentive because of the amount of shows being done that time and packages to be sold. Raw and Smackdown aren’t being done over there, there isn’t an NXT show down there (as far as I know), you can’t really do a Rock HOF induction in Australia etc. As a shareholder, I’d probably ask why you’d leave a bunch of money on the table to boost something that might not get the leverage you want later on. As an accountant I can tell you right now, they are def caring as much about the out the country PLE's as well as Mania Bottom line is, Mania is once a year for 2 days. They have the potential to see a bunch of other PLE events outside the country at a premium price. "B level" is irrelevant when they can stack 60-70k people in there and make bank and do it multiple times a year. Mania has a rep of selling itself, you are working on selling everything else |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 1, 2024 23:17:18 GMT -5
I have a few...things...to....say....sorry....just give...me a se... cond...to...catch my....breath.
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Post by cjmb says Trans Rights on Jan 1, 2024 23:17:48 GMT -5
I’ve never been excited for a potential Roman/Rock match, but having it in Australia against that huge and probably raucous crowd? That excites me.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 1, 2024 23:18:18 GMT -5
Also not only does it make more narrative sense for it to happen at EC (part-time Rock realistically can't be the person to beat Rock and surely Roman is dropping at 40) but even if they wanted to it might be impossible to do Roman/Rock at Mania. For all we know Rock has a movie shoot scheduled for March/April and February is the only time he's available.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 1, 2024 23:18:27 GMT -5
Not sure if it means anything, but Trips is gonna make a big announcement of some sort during a 2024 preview show on Peacock this Thursday, and there's a small chance it'll be Rock vs. Roman.
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Post by Fade on Jan 1, 2024 23:18:27 GMT -5
I have a few...things...to....say....sorry....just give...me a se... cond...to...catch my....breath. Hey that’s no joke, homeboys gonna have to take it easy on the weights. Stretch. Cardio. DDP Yoga I dunno but he was GASSED. Why I think it might be tribal combat, gimmick it up, let him breathe. |
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Post by khali on Jan 1, 2024 23:19:25 GMT -5
See, this is another scenario where Cody beating Roman before could have helped. Rock and Roman could happen without the title.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 1, 2024 23:19:36 GMT -5
This is a different company now, though. They want these major international PLE’s to feel like WrestleMania’s in their own right. Mania will be a huge money maker no matter what and it’s in an especially hot market. This is the chance to make a big statement about what these international shows could mean going forward. If you do Roman/Rock in Australia, you could wind up in a situation where countries are bidding or paying big, big bucks for what used to be “B shows.” I think in a world where WWE was really US-centric, yes, do it at Mania, but it’s a different world. On the other hand, the Australia show is already sold out. WrestleMania has way more financial incentive because of the amount of shows being done that time and packages to be sold. Raw and Smackdown aren’t being done over there, there isn’t an NXT show down there (as far as I know), you can’t really do a Rock HOF induction in Australia etc. As a shareholder, I’d probably ask why you’d leave a bunch of money on the table to boost something that might not get the leverage you want later on. Elimination Chamber is not sold out. The arena is set for 55,000 right now and they’ve sold 45,000. The arena has a capacity of 70,000. Rock/Roman would not only get them over the line but also maybe even get them to open up more seats. And as pointed out above, Mania sells itself. They’re trying to reach a point where these other events have that feel internationally. That doesn’t necessarily mean “ELIMINATION CHAMBER WEEK!” There’s plenty of other ways to approach it. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2024 23:20:49 GMT -5
On the other hand, the Australia show is already sold out. WrestleMania has way more financial incentive because of the amount of shows being done that time and packages to be sold. Raw and Smackdown aren’t being done over there, there isn’t an NXT show down there (as far as I know), you can’t really do a Rock HOF induction in Australia etc. As a shareholder, I’d probably ask why you’d leave a bunch of money on the table to boost something that might not get the leverage you want later on. As an accountant I can tell you right now, they are def caring as much about the out the country PLE's as well as Mania Bottom line is, Mania is once a year for 2 days. They have the potential to see a bunch of other PLE events outside the country at a premium price. "B level" is irrelevant when they can stack 60-70k people in there and make bank and do it multiple times a year. Mania has a rep of selling itself, you are working on selling everything else I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 1, 2024 23:21:45 GMT -5
On the other hand, the Australia show is already sold out. WrestleMania has way more financial incentive because of the amount of shows being done that time and packages to be sold. Raw and Smackdown aren’t being done over there, there isn’t an NXT show down there (as far as I know), you can’t really do a Rock HOF induction in Australia etc. As a shareholder, I’d probably ask why you’d leave a bunch of money on the table to boost something that might not get the leverage you want later on. Elimination Chamber is not sold out. The arena is set for 55,000 right now and they’ve sold 45,000. The arena has a capacity of 70,000. Rock/Roman would not only get them over the line but also maybe even get them to open up more seats. And as pointed out above, Mania sells itself. They’re trying to reach a point where these other events have that feel internationally. That doesn’t necessarily mean “ELIMINATION CHAMBER WEEK!” There’s plenty of other ways to approach it. Rock/Roman and a big title match for Rhea will easily push those numbers past the finish line. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 1, 2024 23:21:55 GMT -5
See, this is another scenario where Cody beating Roman before could have helped. Rock and Roman could happen without the title. I wouldn't be all that surprised if it isn't even for the title since he specifically said the head of the table. 99.999999999999% it will have the title included because sure why not and Roman will win but it would make perfect sense for Rock to come back, say Roman has gotten too big for his britches and he's back to remind him of who the true greatest of all time is. Plus who is the real king of the family! |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 1, 2024 23:23:24 GMT -5
As an accountant I can tell you right now, they are def caring as much about the out the country PLE's as well as Mania Bottom line is, Mania is once a year for 2 days. They have the potential to see a bunch of other PLE events outside the country at a premium price. "B level" is irrelevant when they can stack 60-70k people in there and make bank and do it multiple times a year. Mania has a rep of selling itself, you are working on selling everything else I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. They’ll be able to explain it on a conference call and all will be well. Most of the big ticket packages for Mania are already sold. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 1, 2024 23:23:57 GMT -5
See, this is another scenario where Cody beating Roman before could have helped. Rock and Roman could happen without the title. I wouldn't be all that surprised if it isn't even for the title since he specifically said the head of the table. 99.999999999999% it will have the title included because sure why not and Roman will win but it would make perfect sense for Rock to come back, say Roman has gotten too big for his britches and he's back to remind him of who the true greatest of all time is. Plus who is the real king of the family! Also there was a rumor way back when that rock wanted to go over to protect his image or whatever. That might not even be a thing now: His public image isn’t what it was pre-black Adam. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 1, 2024 23:23:58 GMT -5
Elimination Chamber is not sold out. The arena is set for 55,000 right now and they’ve sold 45,000. The arena has a capacity of 70,000. Rock/Roman would not only get them over the line but also maybe even get them to open up more seats. And as pointed out above, Mania sells itself. They’re trying to reach a point where these other events have that feel internationally. That doesn’t necessarily mean “ELIMINATION CHAMBER WEEK!” There’s plenty of other ways to approach it. Rock/Roman and a big title match for Rhea will easily push those numbers past the finish line. They want to hold off on Rhea vs Becky for Mania, so you don't do it here. Trish has hinted at coming back, Rhea vs Trish at Elimination Chamber. Rock vs Roman, and Trish vs Rhea will sell out that show easily. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 1, 2024 23:24:26 GMT -5
As an accountant I can tell you right now, they are def caring as much about the out the country PLE's as well as Mania Bottom line is, Mania is once a year for 2 days. They have the potential to see a bunch of other PLE events outside the country at a premium price. "B level" is irrelevant when they can stack 60-70k people in there and make bank and do it multiple times a year. Mania has a rep of selling itself, you are working on selling everything else I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. I'm not sure what packages they could do with both nights of Mania practically sold out already. At least EC could still possibly sell another 15-20k. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2024 23:24:44 GMT -5
I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. They’ll be able to explain it on a conference call and all will be well. Most of the big ticket packages for Mania are already sold. I mean, they did that for a lot of things recently and it helped nothing. So I don’t know whether that’d be good enough. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 1, 2024 23:25:14 GMT -5
I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. I'm not sure what packages they could do with both nights of Mania practically sold out already. At least EC could still possibly sell another 15-20k. There are a few 1,200 ticket packages left, but that’s not what you bring the Rock back to do. |
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