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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 1, 2024 23:25:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't be all that surprised if it isn't even for the title since he specifically said the head of the table. 99.999999999999% it will have the title included because sure why not and Roman will win but it would make perfect sense for Rock to come back, say Roman has gotten too big for his britches and he's back to remind him of who the true greatest of all time is. Plus who is the real king of the family! Also there was a rumor way back when that rock wanted to go over to protect his image or whatever. That might not even be a thing now: His public image isn’t what it was pre-black Adam. in the public eye, a bit of humbling would probably go a long way for him at this point. go back and lose to a mega over relative, stick around for mania season, keep up the publicity and go into another billion dollar movie with a tiny bit more work done on the image |
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Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Jan 1, 2024 23:27:40 GMT -5
F*** taking on Roman, the real Big Money Match is Rock vs Rowan II.
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Post by Fade on Jan 1, 2024 23:29:07 GMT -5
Also there was a rumor way back when that rock wanted to go over to protect his image or whatever. That might not even be a thing now: His public image isn’t what it was pre-black Adam. in the public eye, a bit of humbling would probably go a long way for him at this point. go back and lose to a mega over relative, stick around for mania season, keep up the publicity and go into another billion dollar movie with a tiny bit more work done on the image Yeah, I’ve thought it for a while: this could benefit him just as much on a perception level as it will accordingly for WWE. Rock wasn’t playing when he told Vince he kind of wanted to take over the world. Movies, production, football.. I think he’s eyeing the next ten years and the next big steps in his career. Can’t be roided up movie muscle man forever |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 1, 2024 23:30:55 GMT -5
They’ll be able to explain it on a conference call and all will be well. Most of the big ticket packages for Mania are already sold. I mean, they did that for a lot of things recently and it helped nothing. So I don’t know whether that’d be good enough. Guess we’ll see! |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 1, 2024 23:32:08 GMT -5
As an accountant I can tell you right now, they are def caring as much about the out the country PLE's as well as Mania Bottom line is, Mania is once a year for 2 days. They have the potential to see a bunch of other PLE events outside the country at a premium price. "B level" is irrelevant when they can stack 60-70k people in there and make bank and do it multiple times a year. Mania has a rep of selling itself, you are working on selling everything else I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. The stock was as high as $110 and as low as $70. I think they are somewhere in the $80's now. Those are the Ebbs and flows of financials. Chiptole was sitting at $1500 a year ago and $2200 now. Consistency is more key than the highs and lows and TKO is going to set a level once RAW signs a deal and everything has a station. Also keep in mind, Vince tried to sell almost $700M worth of stock which is why the price took a hit Also keep in mind, WWE has thousands of shareholders. You are dealing with Board of Directors who are there on behalf of shareholders to ask what the bottom line is. Mania sells itself, it has its projections and they have had that settled for a long time. Their Fiscal year just started. With big shows for EC and Mania plus the Stadium show at the Rumble, they stand to have a really good First Quarter that will drag in more shareholders especially once RAW has a home. Mania is important to the fans as far as matchups but for them the money is there, now where can they get the money elsewhere |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 1, 2024 23:36:08 GMT -5
Rock and Roman is a Mania match.
Cody can "finish the story" another day and sell T-shirts with his little slogan printed on them until then.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2024 23:39:00 GMT -5
I mean, they did that for a lot of things recently and it helped nothing. So I don’t know whether that’d be good enough. Guess we’ll see! Like I said, happy to be proven wrong! It’s one of the annoying things about how things are structured where we as the consumer, the people who know and watch the product consistently, aren’t as important as the people who only care about wiggly lines and how to maintain them. |
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Post by clc on Jan 1, 2024 23:40:30 GMT -5
I would have The Rock cost Roman the title at the Royal Rumble. (If Rock can't be there in person, do a distraction finish with music and a Titantron promo)
Then you can do Rock vs Roman whenever it can be done (either Elimination Chamber or Mania). Match doesn't not need the title. Without the title, it makes the outcome less predictable.
Then for Mania you can have Cody vs whoever dethroned Roman (I'd go with LA Knight make him into a new main-eventer since he's already got the huge crowd reactions) You could even throw Roman in there to triple threat it if you want.
That's just me because I find the idea of Cody vs Roman II to be an unappealing main event for Wrestlemania. It's not like last year's match was so awesome I need to see it again.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 1, 2024 23:41:05 GMT -5
I do get that and hey, honestly, I agree with it. Shareholders, for the most part, are dumb, dumb people. They looked at a billion dollar deal for Smackdown as bad because it was an inch lower than they expected and plummeted TKO stock further. They don’t see the wood for the trees and just ask why the condo isn’t done yet. If you announce Rock/Roman for EC and not for ‘Mania, I’d probably wonder why they leave money on the table considering the packages you could do for Rock’s first ‘Mania match in years and Rock’s first ‘Mania title match in a decade. The stock was as high as $110 and as low as $70. I think they are somewhere in the $80's now. Those are the Ebbs and flows of financials. Chiptole was sitting at $1500 a year ago and $2200 now. Consistency is more key than the highs and lows and TKO is going to set a level once RAW signs a deal and everything has a station. Also keep in mind, Vince tried to sell almost $700M worth of stock which is why the price took a hit Also keep in mind, WWE has thousands of shareholders. You are dealing with Board of Directors who are there on behalf of shareholders to ask what the bottom line is. Mania sells itself, it has its projections and they have had that settled for a long time. Their Fiscal year just started. With big shows for EC and Mania plus the Stadium show at the Rumble, they stand to have a really good First Quarter that will drag in more shareholders especially once RAW has a home. Mania is important to the fans as far as matchups but for them the money is there, now where can they get the money elsewhere Should note that WM would fall into Q2 since it’s held in April (Q1 would only cover stuff from January-March). |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 1, 2024 23:43:06 GMT -5
The stock was as high as $110 and as low as $70. I think they are somewhere in the $80's now. Those are the Ebbs and flows of financials. Chiptole was sitting at $1500 a year ago and $2200 now. Consistency is more key than the highs and lows and TKO is going to set a level once RAW signs a deal and everything has a station. Also keep in mind, Vince tried to sell almost $700M worth of stock which is why the price took a hit Also keep in mind, WWE has thousands of shareholders. You are dealing with Board of Directors who are there on behalf of shareholders to ask what the bottom line is. Mania sells itself, it has its projections and they have had that settled for a long time. Their Fiscal year just started. With big shows for EC and Mania plus the Stadium show at the Rumble, they stand to have a really good First Quarter that will drag in more shareholders especially once RAW has a home. Mania is important to the fans as far as matchups but for them the money is there, now where can they get the money elsewhere Should note that WM would fall into Q2 since it’s held in April (Q1 would only cover stuff from January-March). Correct. They will recognize the revenue that they will receive from that in Q2 but try to squeeze some expenses into Q1 and whatever other streams of revenue they got as far as advertising |
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Post by Renslayer on Jan 1, 2024 23:52:34 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 1, 2024 23:56:52 GMT -5
Roman: Between you Orton and Punk I’m going have to send yall old fools back to the retirement home |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 1, 2024 23:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 2, 2024 0:01:26 GMT -5
Regardless, I’m sure we’re in for a month’s worth of reasonable discourse on the internet.
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Post by Fade on Jan 2, 2024 0:04:29 GMT -5
 There’s always a bigger Fish |
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Post by john84 on Jan 2, 2024 0:05:09 GMT -5
I think it was predictable that he did so though I do wish the promo segment didn't take as long as it did to get to the point lol.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 2, 2024 0:05:58 GMT -5
There’s always a bigger Fish I’m in the camp that thinks some of the Punk hate is a little OTT but even I’d find that funny. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 2, 2024 0:33:36 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 2, 2024 0:37:30 GMT -5
Oh nooooooo. As an aside, if they let Roman cook, he could have some really bad burns on Rock. |
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Post by Urn Anderson on Jan 2, 2024 0:59:03 GMT -5
The only possible way I can see them “finishing the story” is if Cody wins the Rumble and they pull something similar to Wrestlemania 10.
He wants the biggest possible stage so he wants to face the champion on night 2 of Wrestlemania. Cody has a match on night one, while Roman faces the Rock on the same night. Roman goes over on night 1, and Cody wins the belt on night 2.
It will never happen, but that’s how I’d do it.
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