Remember the Rankings System? Tony kinda does??

[Dub H]

Jan 22, 2024 10:41:23 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Jan 22, 2024 10:35:52 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

There's a few ways around it. Say the PPV is on March 1st, they could say whoever is no.1 on Feb 1st gets the spot. Or make a rule that someone has to be no.1 for a certain number of weeks.

But ultimately, the rankings are worked. AEW can just keep someone at no.1 until they get the shot. There's no need for the rankings to change that frequently unless a story calls.for it.

TK's a stats nerd, he's likely going to want everything to have followable math behind it.

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I can't wait untill calculating base stats is no longer engaging enough for TK so he starts taking percentages and gear ratings into the equation.

Skye Blue will always achieve a higher total win percentage based on the ammount of cheek.

Toni Storm wearing any foot wear will always have a negative impact on her rankings.

[Kalmia]

I mentioned it as a joke earlier in the thread, but if Khan wants to do it right and get nerdy, he really should use the Elo rating system. It's designed for one on one competition and takes into account beating stronger opponents vs weaker opponents. Chess rankings and FIFA use it en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

It also does read like the Steiner math promo.

[dreidemy]

Just make it that some matches are unranked or only count Dynamite and Collision matches and we are good

Also it would help if a wrestler needed to declare a division/title to challenge

[Allie Kitsune]

Jan 22, 2024 12:21:40 GMT -5 Tea & Crumpets said:

Jan 22, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

OK, but what about which wrestler has the highest "Suplexes over Expected For" percentage over a 4 month period?

Or the highest Adjusted Value over Replacement Wrestler (with Scorpio Sky being the "Replacement Wrestler" the initial metric will be based off of, and adjusted over time)?

They should honestly do this level of bullshit that is never actually quantified anywhere, and introduce/repackage someone as a sports scientist manager/member of the AEW Analytics Committee (The Russo in me wants to call it the Analytics & Statistics Squad)

xP or xS for Expected Pins/Submissions based on the likelihood of the preceding move getting the win, so suddenly a guy wins with a mid match powerslam and massively outperforms his xP which jumps him way up the rankings. Guys start trying to win more with random moves to boost their scores, lets you get away from heavily telegraphed finishes. Track number of 1-counts and 2-counts achieved vs conceded, submissions secured/conceded/escaped/rope-breaks per match as some vague bollocks to show how someone's a wrestler good at controlling the match and some Expected calculation based on the move beforehand, Pinfall Creating Actions etc, never explain any actual math behind what these stats mean for the rankings just use it to have some guys throwing a fit that they should be ranked higher, managers using it to scout guys for their stable, 2 guys get in a feud because "You might be winning all the time but I have better underlying stats which means I'm actually better even though I lose more". Soccer is RIFE with armchair analyst crap like this, use it.

This seems like something Smart Mark Sterling should be doing to try to finagle Tony Nese up the rankings.

["American Cream" Dusty Loads]

Jan 22, 2024 7:39:59 GMT -5 raymondo316 said:

I kinda assumed he had something to do with it. I remember him saying mentioning not liking the ranking system during a press conference or something around the time of his signing.

[kingoftheindies]

randomly I think this quote from Daniel Garcia captures AEW and the changes they've made the last few months perfectly

[SneakMan]

Jan 22, 2024 12:58:15 GMT -5 @sigmax said:

I can't wait untill calculating base stats is no longer engaging enough for TK so he starts taking percentages and gear ratings into the equation.

Skye Blue will always achieve a higher total win percentage based on the ammount of cheek.

Toni Storm wearing any foot wear will always have a negative impact on her rankings.

Winning or defending a title gives you access to Legendary and Exotic Gear which will allow you to hit max Light Level faster.

[King Devitt]

Jan 22, 2024 12:58:15 GMT -5 @sigmax said:

I can't wait untill calculating base stats is no longer engaging enough for TK so he starts taking percentages and gear ratings into the equation.

Skye Blue MJF will always achieve a higher total win percentage based on the ammount of cheek.

Toni Storm Sammy Guevara wearing any foot wear will always have a negative impact on his rankings.

Fixed for balance.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I liked the rankings. Frankly, I don't care if they're bullshit rankings, I think they're free booking tools.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The rankings will now be monthly updates instead of weekly

Safe to say Tony's doing everything smarter this time

[Cyno]

I want a segment where a ranking committee discusses their choices and reasoning. Like one of those ESPN bracket specials.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Jan 24, 2024 21:19:29 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The rankings will now be monthly updates instead of weekly

Safe to say Tony's doing everything smarter this time

Smart decision. Gives them more time to get their ducks in a row for what they want to present through the ranking narrative.

[HIM]

I want Stokely Hathaway to be talking to Tony each month about the ratings. I want him to be like Shannon Sharpe doing the Katt interview when Tony's explaining why someone's ranked so high.

"Come on Tony!!!"

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Our first official rankings are in!

Keep in mind these are all compiled off of the last month of action and wins, and will compile and be updated every following month... so with that all considered it seems like it makes sense, especially with the upcoming matches on the cards too

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

The only one that stands out as odd from TV is Silver and Reynolds but they'll likely fall off after Rampage. Everything else makes total sense.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 31, 2024 23:06:19 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

The only one that stands out as odd from TV is Silver and Reynolds but they'll likely fall off after Rampage. Everything else makes total sense.

They got a win or two this month thanks to the Brodie Lee tribute matches, so I can see it, but yeah they're basically being given an Eliminator Match this week

[Chiral]

TK hates mustaches confirmed.

[King Devitt]

Jan 31, 2024 23:12:13 GMT -5 Chiral said:

TK hates mustaches confirmed.

hey hey we have something in common.

[chazraps]

Jan 31, 2024 22:55:27 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Our first official rankings are in!

Keep in mind these are all compiled off of the last month of action and wins, and will compile and be updated every following month... so with that all considered it seems like it makes sense, especially with the upcoming matches on the cards too

I don't know why, but it really makes me happy to see these again.