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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 1, 2024 3:12:59 GMT -5
Something about seeing the rankings again does feel nice. It's a part of AEW that got left behind, and it's not as if there was any idea ever suggested to take its place. It was just gone and that was it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 1, 2024 3:29:55 GMT -5
Our first official rankings are in! Keep in mind these are all compiled off of the last month of action and wins, and will compile and be updated every following month... so with that all considered it seems like it makes sense, especially with the upcoming matches on the cards too I don't know why, but it really makes me happy to see these again. It's something different that really only AEW does It makes them feel more unique and it also makes wins and losses feel more important, now on a monthly basis which helps build weekly and towards PPV stretches.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 1, 2024 6:03:31 GMT -5
Monthly is a better idea although I wish the International Champ wasn't on the graphic. Keep that as an open challenge and out of the rankings.
It's great to see Swerve at no. 1 as well.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 1, 2024 6:42:31 GMT -5
Monthly is a better idea although I wish the International Champ wasn't on the graphic. Keep that as an open challenge and out of the rankings. It's great to see Swerve at no. 1 as well. Well the TNT and International Belt are only Open Challenge as the champion may see fit. So I guess they have to keep it fair and when someone gets high enough in the rankings they can take their shot, Copeland and Roddy's rankings reciprocate that idea
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Post by Dub H on Feb 1, 2024 7:09:46 GMT -5
Monthly is a better idea although I wish the International Champ wasn't on the graphic. Keep that as an open challenge and out of the rankings. It's great to see Swerve at no. 1 as well. I think it's only in the image because the champions don't take part on the rankings.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 1, 2024 8:40:37 GMT -5
Monthly is a better idea although I wish the International Champ wasn't on the graphic. Keep that as an open challenge and out of the rankings. It's great to see Swerve at no. 1 as well. Well the TNT and International Belt are only Open Challenge as the champion may see fit. So I guess they have to keep it fair and when someone gets high enough in the rankings they can take their shot, Copeland and Roddy's rankings reciprocate that idea Maybe I wasn't clear. I would prefer it to be an open challenge as that separates it from the other two belts and justifies why AEW has both the TNT and International titles. The two titles kinda occupy the same space otherwise.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 1, 2024 8:41:12 GMT -5
Monthly is a better idea although I wish the International Champ wasn't on the graphic. Keep that as an open challenge and out of the rankings. It's great to see Swerve at no. 1 as well. I think it's only in the image because the champions don't take part on the rankings. I hope so. It works better as an open challenge.
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Post by sushiburrito on Feb 1, 2024 10:16:52 GMT -5
Very curious how Silver/Reynolds are ranked at number two.
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Post by dbsot on Feb 1, 2024 10:29:21 GMT -5
Very curious how Silver/Reynolds are ranked at number two. I hope I am wrong, but I think it is because they won two dark matches against Cutler/Cabana. This shouldn't be a huge problem because there aren't many dark matches and Dark Order is only getting a secondary match on Rampage. It at least isn't a stacking wins on Dark/Elevation levels of bad. On the plus side, it doesn't look like ROH wins are counting towards these rankings.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 1, 2024 10:53:45 GMT -5
The tag division looks weak based on the rankings, but everything else seems to make sense.
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Post by 4real on Feb 1, 2024 13:29:01 GMT -5
Nicholas and Matthew Jackson got left off the rankings? Somebody getting fined for this.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 1, 2024 13:33:07 GMT -5
Very curious how Silver/Reynolds are ranked at number two. I hope I am wrong, but I think it is because they won two dark matches against Cutler/Cabana. This shouldn't be a huge problem because there aren't many dark matches and Dark Order is only getting a secondary match on Rampage. It at least isn't a stacking wins on Dark/Elevation levels of bad. On the plus side, it doesn't look like ROH wins are counting towards these rankings. I think part of it is the fact there haven't been a ton of full time teams getting 2x2 action this month so far. Least that's what it feels like. I don't like the idea of the actual dark matches counting towards wins either since besides those, they've only won a match on the Homecoming Rampage show.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 1, 2024 13:52:00 GMT -5
Nicholas and Matthew Jackson got left off the rankings? Somebody getting fined for this. They are just being great bosses and letting their employees be on the ranking.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 1, 2024 13:53:01 GMT -5
I hope I am wrong, but I think it is because they won two dark matches against Cutler/Cabana. This shouldn't be a huge problem because there aren't many dark matches and Dark Order is only getting a secondary match on Rampage. It at least isn't a stacking wins on Dark/Elevation levels of bad. On the plus side, it doesn't look like ROH wins are counting towards these rankings. I think part of it is the fact there haven't been a ton of full time teams getting 2x2 action this month so far. Least that's what it feels like. I don't like the idea of the actual dark matches counting towards wins either since besides those, they've only won a match on the Homecoming Rampage show. That's really the story being told with this ranking, especially with Orange and Trent making it. 2x2 tag matches have been under-utilized for a while in AEW, and one can hope that the rankings keep Khan more honest about doing more of those.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 1, 2024 14:45:11 GMT -5
The tag division looks weak based on the rankings, but everything else seems to make sense. The good news about these is they're gonna fluctuate heavily by the month so any tag team that gets on a tear or say wins a small feud likely breaks into the Top 5 swiftly
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Feb 1, 2024 16:40:21 GMT -5
The tag division looks weak based on the rankings, but everything else seems to make sense. Yeah, the rankings expose the weaknesses in the Tag and Trios divisions. Sting and Darby were never ranked previously, despite being undefeated, but now that they're challenging for the belts, they're suddenly ranked. I don't remember Silver and Reynolds getting any tag wins on TV. Bryan and Claudio challenging would be interesting, but Claudio teams with Mox way more often. Private Party have one win but also just returned, while Orange and Trent aren't even a regular team. And in the trios rankings, Bullet Club Gold and House of Black are the only teams getting regular reps on TV. FTR and Garcia, and The Hardys and Briscoe, aren't regular teams and Dark Order have one win due to the Brodie tribute matches. The men's rankings make the most sense, imo. Nothing bad about the ladies, except it kind of exposes how there are a lot of designated jobbers, like Ruby, Anna and *sigh* Willow, who aren't ranked.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 1, 2024 21:51:20 GMT -5
The tag division looks weak based on the rankings, but everything else seems to make sense. Yeah, the rankings expose the weaknesses in the Tag and Trios divisions. Sting and Darby were never ranked previously, despite being undefeated, but now that they're challenging for the belts, they're suddenly ranked. I don't remember Silver and Reynolds getting any tag wins on TV. Bryan and Claudio challenging would be interesting, but Claudio teams with Mox way more often. Private Party have one win but also just returned, while Orange and Trent aren't even a regular team. And in the trios rankings, Bullet Club Gold and House of Black are the only teams getting regular reps on TV. FTR and Garcia, and The Hardys and Briscoe, aren't regular teams and Dark Order have one win due to the Brodie tribute matches. The men's rankings make the most sense, imo. Nothing bad about the ladies, except it kind of exposes how there are a lot of designated jobbers, like Ruby, Anna and *sigh* Willow, who aren't ranked. Willow a jobber? She's only unranked, I think, because she hasn't had a lot of TV matches this month, no? I think what's happened with the tag division is something that should've been anticipated once the trios division got going; a lot of the potential contenders for the tag belts have been focused there, instead (Gunns, Acclaimed, HoB, the Bucks for awhile a few months ago). Nothing wrong with having tag teams in trios teams, but it should focus more on whole factions, where possible. Hopefully once this Sting retirement story is wrapped up, they'll get some focus on more full-time teams or strong combinations for a good bit.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 1, 2024 21:56:39 GMT -5
Yeah, the rankings expose the weaknesses in the Tag and Trios divisions. Sting and Darby were never ranked previously, despite being undefeated, but now that they're challenging for the belts, they're suddenly ranked. I don't remember Silver and Reynolds getting any tag wins on TV. Bryan and Claudio challenging would be interesting, but Claudio teams with Mox way more often. Private Party have one win but also just returned, while Orange and Trent aren't even a regular team. And in the trios rankings, Bullet Club Gold and House of Black are the only teams getting regular reps on TV. FTR and Garcia, and The Hardys and Briscoe, aren't regular teams and Dark Order have one win due to the Brodie tribute matches. The men's rankings make the most sense, imo. Nothing bad about the ladies, except it kind of exposes how there are a lot of designated jobbers, like Ruby, Anna and *sigh* Willow, who aren't ranked. Willow a jobber? She's only unranked, I think, because she hasn't had a lot of TV matches this month, no? I think what's happened with the tag division is something that should've been anticipated once the trios division got going; a lot of the potential contenders for the tag belts have been focused there, instead (Gunns, Acclaimed, HoB, the Bucks for awhile a few months ago). Nothing wrong with having tag teams in trios teams, but it should focus more on whole factions, where possible. Hopefully once this Sting retirement story is wrapped up, they'll get some focus on more full-time teams or strong combinations for a good bit. Khan seems to want to focus on specific three-man teams, which may be a mistake in comparison to factions that can field more than one three-man combination apiece.
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Post by King Devitt on Feb 1, 2024 22:10:28 GMT -5
I still find it fascinating the stranglehold that CM Punk had on this man.
There's potential in a ratings system, we'll see how it's utilized this time around, and hopefully FTR and Nyla Rose won't be #1 contender's for 30 weeks.
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Feb 1, 2024 22:10:46 GMT -5
Yeah, the rankings expose the weaknesses in the Tag and Trios divisions. Sting and Darby were never ranked previously, despite being undefeated, but now that they're challenging for the belts, they're suddenly ranked. I don't remember Silver and Reynolds getting any tag wins on TV. Bryan and Claudio challenging would be interesting, but Claudio teams with Mox way more often. Private Party have one win but also just returned, while Orange and Trent aren't even a regular team. And in the trios rankings, Bullet Club Gold and House of Black are the only teams getting regular reps on TV. FTR and Garcia, and The Hardys and Briscoe, aren't regular teams and Dark Order have one win due to the Brodie tribute matches. The men's rankings make the most sense, imo. Nothing bad about the ladies, except it kind of exposes how there are a lot of designated jobbers, like Ruby, Anna and *sigh* Willow, who aren't ranked. Willow a jobber? She's only unranked, I think, because she hasn't had a lot of TV matches this month, no? I think what's happened with the tag division is something that should've been anticipated once the trios division got going; a lot of the potential contenders for the tag belts have been focused there, instead (Gunns, Acclaimed, HoB, the Bucks for awhile a few months ago). Nothing wrong with having tag teams in trios teams, but it should focus more on whole factions, where possible. Hopefully once this Sting retirement story is wrapped up, they'll get some focus on more full-time teams or strong combinations for a good bit. Jobber was kinda harsh, but what I mean is that her, Ruby and Anna are there to lose to the women who are ranked. Skye was in that spot pre-heel turn. Although Statlander's not ranked and I wouldn't place her in the same category. I think there's room for both trios and tags to exist without one division hurting the other. The problem is, rather than create trios out of three singles guys, they seem to prefer the trope of tag team and a singles guy forming a trio. Which is OK if you only do it with one or two teams, but there are a lot of trios that follow that format: Acclaimed and Daddy Ass, Jay and The Gunns (I know they're in a faction, but it feels weird with them), Hardys and Briscoe, FTR and Garcia (should be FTR and Briscoe, really), Top Flight and Andretti.. RUSH, PAC, Chuckie T and Fenix are all hurt, taking away three trios. It's also worth noting that I personally believe the main point of the rankings is for the World Title, the rest are kinda just a token thing. Because they were building the basis of that top five before they even mentioned the rankings coming back. Whereas the rest feel like afterthoughts. It's also the first month, so hopefully going forward, they put a bit more emphasis on the other divisions and making them feel on par.
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