Vince S.A. Lawsuit Thread (Vince Resigns Page 60)

[dumpstermatchblues]

I feel bad for Shane in all of this. He did not deserve to have life turn out this way. I wish he would come back for a final run with the Mean Street Posse. I WISH!!!

[wildojinx]

Sept 5, 2024 20:41:30 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

I feel bad for Shane in all of this. He did not deserve to have life turn out this way. I wish he would come back for a final run with the Mean Street Posse. I WISH!!!

I'm surprised they didnt bring back the posse for a nostalgia pop. I mean, they brought back the Headbangers, why not Joey, Pete, and Rodney?

[dumpstermatchblues]

Sept 5, 2024 20:47:12 GMT -5 wildojinx said:

Sept 5, 2024 20:41:30 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

I feel bad for Shane in all of this. He did not deserve to have life turn out this way. I wish he would come back for a final run with the Mean Street Posse. I WISH!!!

I'm surprised they didnt bring back the posse for a nostalgia pop. I mean, they brought back the Headbangers, why not Joey, Pete, and Rodney?

Seriously! I was just passing through Connecticut not long ago and spent the afternoon in Greenwich. Had the Posse's theme song stuck in my head the whole time.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Vince looks terrifying now. Like a cartoon come to life.

[Schizo]

Sept 5, 2024 22:33:43 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Vince looks terrifying now. Like a cartoon come to life.

He was probably a toon in disguise this whole time wearing a Vince McMahon rubber mask ala Judge Doom

[EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese]

Sept 5, 2024 22:33:43 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Vince looks terrifying now. Like a cartoon come to life.

Just seeing him in general on anything has become a bit of a jumpscare.

[Sephiroth]

Sept 5, 2024 23:28:05 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Sept 5, 2024 22:33:43 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Vince looks terrifying now. Like a cartoon come to life.

He was probably a toon in disguise this whole time wearing a Vince McMahon rubber mask ala Judge Doom

Remember me Prichard? When I killed your credibility I talked just like thiiiiiiiis!

[Legion]

Sept 5, 2024 19:58:29 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Sept 5, 2024 18:36:49 GMT -5 Legion said:

I would say none of 1-3 get brought up. It isnt a big enough part of the story they are going to be telling and you know that. This looks to be the rise and fall of Mr McMahon, not a comprehensive look at the minutia of company history.

No, #1 is in fact very important; groundwork should be laid maybe not to exhaustive detail, but certainly about the lineage of the McMahon family before Vince bought the company. I think not acknowledging that and letting Vince run his revisionist take on how he is the one who took a 'small regional promotion' and made it a prime time nationwide smash hit is engaging in a hagiography that no independent Vince piece deserves. Six episodes is a lot of room to run a lot of ground and the self-made myth he projects should not be allowed to stand just because there's more salacious comments out there in the world. Even in brief, they should pay mind to the real history; his father selling him the succcessful company that was already poised to take off is not an irrelevant detail of Vince's rise.

Sure, but that isnt the story. The story they want is Vince, not the family or the history. I would be very surprised to see the start of this documentary doing much more than the general narrative. The focus will be Vince coming in and Vince taking over, I expect anyway. You dont have as much of a story of 'Vince the genius' if you deny that genius from the offset - even if that may be the truth. I think they'll tear him down at the end, not right from the start.

Granted I could be wrong and this may take the more truthful, accurate and in depth look - but just going from the trailer and title the focus seems to be Vince and before you tear him down, you need to build him up. So I just dont see them attacking the biggest accomplishment right off the bat by making that story less McMahon focussed. That isn't to say we wont hear about his dad and granddad, I just think the focus will be Vince, not the company, if that makes sense.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Sept 6, 2024 5:02:32 GMT -5 Legion said:

Sept 5, 2024 19:58:29 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

No, #1 is in fact very important; groundwork should be laid maybe not to exhaustive detail, but certainly about the lineage of the McMahon family before Vince bought the company. I think not acknowledging that and letting Vince run his revisionist take on how he is the one who took a 'small regional promotion' and made it a prime time nationwide smash hit is engaging in a hagiography that no independent Vince piece deserves. Six episodes is a lot of room to run a lot of ground and the self-made myth he projects should not be allowed to stand just because there's more salacious comments out there in the world. Even in brief, they should pay mind to the real history; his father selling him the succcessful company that was already poised to take off is not an irrelevant detail of Vince's rise.

Sure, but that isnt the story. The story they want is Vince, not the family or the history. I would be very surprised to see the start of this documentary doing much more than the general narrative. The focus will be Vince coming in and Vince taking over, I expect anyway. You dont have as much of a story of 'Vince the genius' if you deny that genius from the offset - even if that may be the truth. I think they'll tear him down at the end, not right from the start.

Granted I could be wrong and this may take the more truthful, accurate and in depth look - but just going from the trailer and title the focus seems to be Vince and before you tear him down, you need to build him up. So I just dont see them attacking the biggest accomplishment right off the bat by making that story less McMahon focussed. That isn't to say we wont hear about his dad and granddad, I just think the focus will be Vince, not the company, if that makes sense.

"The whole foundation of this guy's claims he's a genius were bullshit anyway" is absolutely a part of the story. The self-made man who got a loan from daddy, the guy who saw history as something to control as much as everything else. The focus doesn't need to be the family or the history; five minutes going in to debunking Vince's self-made myth is not taking away from the story, and it'd only serve to further deepen the levels of shittiness going on. Exposing the emperor for having no clothes is such a dead basic documentary move. Maybe it comes late in the six episodes for dramatic effect, but I don't think it's contradictory at all. He still built so much himself, pointing out that his lies start from ground zero doesn't take away from that, it just exposes another layer of his scumbasggery. "Print the rapist's lies so the rapist sounds better" is kind of nonsense.

[crashmatsbazz]

in the Netflix doc, i'm gonna 100% believe anyone who isn't or hasn't been involved in wrestling/the WWE/F and everyone else will be lying.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Sept 5, 2024 17:39:08 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I'd recommend for anyone who hasn't listened to it to look up the Behind the Bastards on Vince.

Oh hell yeah. f*** Netflix, this is the one. And also, it has Seanbaby!

[Mid-Carder]

Sept 5, 2024 20:41:30 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

I feel bad for Shane in all of this. He did not deserve to have life turn out this way. I wish he would come back for a final run with the Mean Street Posse. I WISH!!!

I agree I don't like Shane being associated with the McMahons given it appears he's decent and has never hurt anybody but it's probably better for him that he's distant from it anyway.

[fw91]

Vince was actually interviewed for this? Or archival footage

[EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese]

Sept 6, 2024 7:56:30 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Vince was actually interviewed for this? Or archival footage

He was probably WAS interviewed for this back when it was going to be more of a puff piece.

[mc74]

The documentary, ugh. Vince shouldn't be endorsed in any shape, form, or fashion.

[polarbearpete]

Sept 6, 2024 7:56:30 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Vince was actually interviewed for this? Or archival footage

I think he was interviewed for this before everything came out in 2022.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Seems as though as the Netflix doc may not be as much of a fluff piece on Vince as the trailer makes it out to be:

wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/mr-mcmahon-netflix-doc-said-to-be-an-absolute-double-shovel-burial-of-vince-mcmahon-some-people-in-wwe-not-happy-about-it/

As previously noted, Netflix has released the trailer for the six-part docuseries on Vince McMahon. The trailer makes it clear that although the production began years ago, the sexual misconduct allegations made against McMahon will be included.

During a conversation on Konnan’s “Keepin’ It 100” podcast, Conrad Thompson said he’s heard that the documentary will be a “burial” of McMahon and some people in WWE are not happy about it. Thompson said, “It’s a hit piece they don’t like.” Konnan said, “Yeah, because Bill Simmons is doing it. He does what he wants.”

Thompson continued, “[Simmons] is talking to [David] Shoemaker and [Dave] Meltzer. It’s an absolute double shovel burial.”

Disco Inferno chimed in and said, “I can’t ever pile in on guys like that because I’m in this business because of people like them.” Disco said it bothers him to hear people in the “dirt sheet community” pile on people like Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon “regardless of the bad things they’ve done.”

Thompson said he’s had to reconcile and like with Chris Benoit, he’s had to separate the artist from the real person. On Vince, Thompson said, “If you read the original report, certainly it was slanted to read a certain way. Either way, it’s hard to read that and not be a little taken aback. Now it’s like okay, not everybody is all good or all bad. He created some real magic for millions of people, myself included. But he wasn’t always a great guy. I think if you go back and look up almost any of our heroes, whether they’re in entertainment, music or whatever, those folks disappoint you. But that doesn’t mean you have to give up enjoying their previous work.”

Thompson said he can understand people who can’t go back and watch things from the past because of people like McMahon being part of that history, etc but it’s not his experience.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

This just in: Konnan and Disco Inferno continue to be complete f***ing idiots

[government mule]

There's something funny about the idea of Disco Inferno 'chiming' in on anything relevant. f*** off you dancing twat

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Sept 6, 2024 12:34:28 GMT -5 government mule said:

There's something funny about the idea of Disco Inferno 'chiming' in on anything relevant. f*** off you dancing twat

That time he teased a comeback in TNA only for Scott Steiner to yell at him to just give up and he was never seen again is still the height of comedy to me.