Vince S.A. Lawsuit Thread (Vince Resigns Page 60)

[Allie Kitsune]

Jan 26, 2024 11:52:51 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Jan 26, 2024 11:28:39 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

I think some people expect Seth Rollins, Cody Rhodes or whoever to be tweeting their disgust, which is baffling to me.

I don’t see why any talent should have to tweet about this stuff. I’d be very confident that the vast majority of the wrestlers had no idea or played no part in the horrible acts that Vince and laurinautis committed. It’s why I disliked the way it was phrased that if talent didn’t speak out they would be somewhat complicit. Let’s work with what we know for certain. 

They have a responsibility to make this business, and this world, a less shitty place for the generations that come after them.

[tafkaga]

Jan 26, 2024 11:18:15 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Imagine this scenario: it turns out Triple H, Nick Khan, Steph, Shawn et al were all HEAVILY involved in covering this up and they all get let go. TKO decide there's nobody more qualified to take over than Eric Bischoff, and they also decide a rebrand is needed and since they already own all the trademarks, WWE becomes WCW over night. It'd never happen but it's a funny thing to picture because it's not even outside the realm of possibilities.

Raw starts with Eric Bischoff in the ring leaning on his motorcycle, announcing that he won the Monday night wars, with Hogan and other still living nWo members hobbling around the ring giving each other the '2 sweet' finger kiss.

[Tom Turkey]

Jan 26, 2024 12:03:20 GMT -5 markymark said:

Source: PWInsider

by Mike Johnson @ 9:13 AM on 1/26/2024

Some notes regarding the Vince McMahon and WWE lawsuit that was filed yesterday by former WWE employee Janel Grant based on questions PWInsider.com has received over the last 24 hours:

*Jerry McDevitt was Vince McMahon's attorney for the NDA with Grant but no longer represents McMahon and has all but retired, so for those who asked, McDevitt would not be defending McMahon or even WWE here. McDevitt has not represented McMahon since he made the decision to come out his WWE retirement.

*In something that sounds absolutely insane, the NDA for Grant included a clause that if she needed a reference for future employment from WWE, she was directed to go to John Laurinaitis for the reference, which given the allegations in the suit, is mind-blowing, to say the least.

*One allegation in the lawsuit was that Grant claimed that no one spoke to her or utilized any documentation she had during the WWE Board of Directors investigation into Vince McMahon. PWInsider.com is told that investigation was conducted by a third-party, not WWE itself.

*While the Wall Street Journal has surmised the WWE talent Grant mentions in her lawsuit is Brock Lesnar, Lesnar is never named in the suit and is not a defendant in the lawsuit.

*WWE has not made, as of this writing, any internal statement to their employees about The Wall Street Journal article. The prevous WSJ articles all led to either a company meeting or a statement that was issued privately. Thus far, that has not been the case. As you can imagine, a lot of employees we've spoken to were really upset and disgusted with the allegations.

*As TKO Group Holding noted in their statement yesterday, Vince McMahon is not involved in the day to day operations of WWE anymore. As we have noted many times here during audio discussions in the Elite section, his current position is more of a ceremonial title at this point. Nick Khan and Paul Levesque are overseeing the company.

*It is not known whether TKO could force Vince McMahon to step down from his position as Executive Director of the TKO Board of Directors. The question to be answered is whether there is a morals clause in McMahon's contract with TKO and whether that could be a factor in his status going forward.

*There has been no public acknowledgment that the federal investigation into McMahon has ever closed, so yes, that is something that could come to the surface again, as far as anyone knows.

*The story has gotten a lot of attention and we are told that a lot of media outlets are starting work on their own coverage. The New York Times covered the story this morning. All the major entertainment trade publications covered it. The story won't go away overnight.

*Court records indicate that as of this morning, WWE, Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis all have yet to be served with the lawsuit.

“The story won’t go away overnight” is the biggest f***ing understatement ever. It shouldn’t go away over night. It should follow Vince, Laurinaitis, and Brock to their graves.

[ace]

Jan 26, 2024 12:08:44 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Jan 26, 2024 11:52:51 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

I don’t see why any talent should have to tweet about this stuff. I’d be very confident that the vast majority of the wrestlers had no idea or played no part in the horrible acts that Vince and laurinautis committed. It’s why I disliked the way it was phrased that if talent didn’t speak out they would be somewhat complicit. Let’s work with what we know for certain. 

They have a responsibility to make this business, and this world, a less shitty place for the generations that come after them.

Cody already solved racism…what more can one man pretend to do?

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 26, 2024 11:33:32 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

Jan 26, 2024 11:26:17 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

There is nothing for Stephanie to be let go from.

She left the company.

I hope you didn't take this seriously, I was merely concocting an amusing outlandish scenario

I saw a bunch of people still acting like she has power in the company when she left like immediately after Vince came back.

[Stu]

Jan 26, 2024 12:01:41 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

As for people commenting from the company. I'll say what I said when Hausman caused the Jericho rumors to pop up (please note these are apples to oranges and are NOT meant to cause WWE vs AEW so nobody take this as such) PR answers should be given. The difference of course is these are actual accusations, but the response from wrestlers should be that they cannot comment on that, and the response from Triple H/whoever should say "we take any allegation of sexual assault seriously, and will be doing our due diligence"

That will piss some people off, but you've got to play the PR game. Do not say anything to make it worse do not praise anybody or try to downplay anything. Put it into the hands of legal

And personally, I'm not a fan of the mentality of "We're fans and buy tickets; they owe it to us to tell us how they feel." This happened a lot during the Joss Whedon allegations and fans wanted statements from just about everyone who appeared in Buffy and Angel. It got bad enough that Charisma Carpenter, who had called out Whedon, passive aggrevisely mentioned her costars showing her support privately. Basically to tell fans "See? They support me. They don't need to do it publicly."

[cornettesracket]

Jan 26, 2024 12:03:20 GMT -5 markymark said:

Source: PWInsider

by Mike Johnson @ 9:13 AM on 1/26/2024

Some notes regarding the Vince McMahon and WWE lawsuit that was filed yesterday by former WWE employee Janel Grant based on questions PWInsider.com has received over the last 24 hours:

*Jerry McDevitt was Vince McMahon's attorney for the NDA with Grant but no longer represents McMahon and has all but retired, so for those who asked, McDevitt would not be defending McMahon or even WWE here. McDevitt has not represented McMahon since he made the decision to come out his WWE retirement.

*In something that sounds absolutely insane, the NDA for Grant included a clause that if she needed a reference for future employment from WWE, she was directed to go to John Laurinaitis for the reference, which given the allegations in the suit, is mind-blowing, to say the least.

*One allegation in the lawsuit was that Grant claimed that no one spoke to her or utilized any documentation she had during the WWE Board of Directors investigation into Vince McMahon. PWInsider.com is told that investigation was conducted by a third-party, not WWE itself.

*While the Wall Street Journal has surmised the WWE talent Grant mentions in her lawsuit is Brock Lesnar, Lesnar is never named in the suit and is not a defendant in the lawsuit.

*WWE has not made, as of this writing, any internal statement to their employees about The Wall Street Journal article. The prevous WSJ articles all led to either a company meeting or a statement that was issued privately. Thus far, that has not been the case. As you can imagine, a lot of employees we've spoken to were really upset and disgusted with the allegations.

*As TKO Group Holding noted in their statement yesterday, Vince McMahon is not involved in the day to day operations of WWE anymore. As we have noted many times here during audio discussions in the Elite section, his current position is more of a ceremonial title at this point. Nick Khan and Paul Levesque are overseeing the company.

*It is not known whether TKO could force Vince McMahon to step down from his position as Executive Director of the TKO Board of Directors. The question to be answered is whether there is a morals clause in McMahon's contract with TKO and whether that could be a factor in his status going forward.

*There has been no public acknowledgment that the federal investigation into McMahon has ever closed, so yes, that is something that could come to the surface again, as far as anyone knows.

*The story has gotten a lot of attention and we are told that a lot of media outlets are starting work on their own coverage. The New York Times covered the story this morning. All the major entertainment trade publications covered it. The story won't go away overnight.

*Court records indicate that as of this morning, WWE, Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis all have yet to be served with the lawsuit.

Good to see Mike Johnson put out what he knows and not what he is speculating on. That third party have some serious questions as to the thoroughness of their investigation into this. 

I’ve no doubt the talent are upset and disgusted by the allegations, because they from we can gather from them interacting with fans are good people, and make positive impacts in those fans lives. 

I know brock wasn’t mentioned and isn’t a defendant in the case but it wasn’t that hard to work out. 

[chrom]

You know what's really bad?

Somewhere, someone is already working on making wrestler themed dildos

[cornettesracket]

Jan 26, 2024 12:15:33 GMT -5 ace said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:08:44 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

They have a responsibility to make this business, and this world, a less shitty place for the generations that come after them.

Cody already solved racism…what more can one man pretend to do?

I had tried to forget about that. 

[Mecca]

Jan 26, 2024 12:20:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

You know what's really bad?

Somewhere, someone is already working on making wrestler themed dildos

WELLLLL it's the DILLLLL-D0

Yes it's a big bad DILDO tonight.

[Kalmia]

I don't expect any WWE wrestler to speak publicly. I don't think anything good could come from it. I'd hope that some of the wrestlers that have seniority and secure positions would be asking questions behind closed doors though and will be working to change the culture of the company.

[Mecca]

Jan 26, 2024 12:20:35 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:15:33 GMT -5 ace said:

Cody already solved racism…what more can one man pretend to do?

I had tried to forget about that. 

You had tried to forget about the great humanitarian Cody Rhodes?

[The anti-ratings Luddite]

Jan 26, 2024 12:08:44 GMT -5 Viking Hall said:

Something that has struck me is that if this turns out to be true (and for the record, I believe every last word of it) is that these are the actions of a comparatively frail seventy-something year old living in the age of the internet where everything comes to light eventually.

To give that perspective, if this is what he's capable of now, it makes me shudder to think what he was up to in his prime years, with half of Colombia stuffed up his nose and enough steroids in his system to give a race horse a heart attack in an age where it was easy to make things disappear.

My only vague hope is that these actions are the result of all those years of self-abuse and not the icing on the cake of decades of depravity.

As for Brock, well he and Vince are different sides of the same coin. Vince has never heard no due to his money, power, political connections and stranglehold on his chosen industry while Brock has never heard no due to the fact that there's essentially nobody on the planet that can confront him physically. I have absolutely no trouble in believing that both are completely mentally warped as a result.

Oh, I dunno, Cain Velasquez and Overeem did a pretty good job of showing him he’s not invincible

[cornettesracket]

Jan 26, 2024 12:23:31 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:20:35 GMT -5 cornettesracket said:

I had tried to forget about that. 

You had tried to forget about the great humanitarian Cody Rhodes?

Yeah. I know maybe I tried something that wasn’t possible. 

[lucas_lee]

Jan 26, 2024 12:23:11 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I don't expect any WWE wrestler to speak publicly. I don't think anything good could come from it. I'd hope that some of the wrestlers that have seniority and secure positions would be asking questions behind closed doors though and will be working to change the culture of the company.

Anything for the post Rumble presser should be directed to HHHH and blindsiding a wrestler with a question about this situation doesn't make you a hero it makes you a coward.

[cornettesracket]

Jan 26, 2024 12:23:11 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I don't expect any WWE wrestler to speak publicly. I don't think anything good could come from it. I'd hope that some of the wrestlers that have seniority and secure positions would be asking questions behind closed doors though and will be working to change the culture of the company.

It would put them in a very uncomfortable position. I’ve no doubt that senior wrestler will do that behind closed doors. Well you’d hope so anyway. I think we need to separate the wrestlers and the culture they have going on, and the executives which surely has to change going forward.

[Garyspivey]

Jan 26, 2024 12:22:51 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:20:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

You know what's really bad?

Somewhere, someone is already working on making wrestler themed dildos

WELLLLL it's the DILLLLL-D0

Yes it's a big bad DILDO tonight.

I picture Vince doing it locked in his office like Dark Helmet from Spaceballs

[Mecca]

Jan 26, 2024 12:30:05 GMT -5 Garyspivey said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:22:51 GMT -5 Mecca said:

WELLLLL it's the DILLLLL-D0

Yes it's a big bad DILDO tonight.

I picture Vince doing it locked in his office like Dark Helmet from Spaceballs

He's just using it like an action figure making it speak...

[xCompackx]

Jan 26, 2024 12:22:51 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Jan 26, 2024 12:20:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

You know what's really bad?

Somewhere, someone is already working on making wrestler themed dildos

WELLLLL it's the DILLLLL-D0

Yes it's a big bad DILDO tonight.

You won't see it coming, but I promise that you'll know!

[joeiscool]

A huge part of the reason talent "turn a blind eye" is because show business is kinda the wild west. There's no hr hand book, no proper channels , There's no guarantee that if you do speak up that any change will happen let alone if there's not going to be blowback from it.

And it's at all levels. If they were in indies they probably experienced some things, if they were in NCAA level sports they probably ignored some stuff. If they were low level actors there's somethings they probably never reported. By the time they make it to the WWE they are numb to certain behaviors. There's a level of coping that you go through when your job is something in show business that people with "normal" jobs might not have to deal with.