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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 26, 2024 14:11:05 GMT -5
OH MY f***ING GOD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:15:17 GMT -5
Sorry not the go off topic but I don’t know the answer to it. If this does go to trial can this thread stay open ? On another forum I’m on, if something that is being discussed got to court, it’s an immediate locking of the thread. That makes no sense. Unless we're discussing juvenile matters, courts are open to the public and everyone goes into the public record. The only reason we would er on the side of caution is if politics are involved. And believe me, if we were around during the OJ Simpson trial, we'd be chatting up a storm.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 26, 2024 14:15:51 GMT -5
Not that, I saw that going around as well and that didn't bother me. This was tweets from a number of people blaming Punk specifically for not saying anything today and only instagramming his morning coffee. As if he, or any other wrestler, could or should be sharing their feelings on this matter on social media. And regardless, this isn't the time or topic to be point scoring over CM f***ing Punk. (The tweets, not anyone on here to be clear). Dude made himself a fake reputation of being a guy that fights for the right causes ,that stands up for people that can't. He is the guy that came every week with a shirt that represents a cause. He is the guy that defended women by buying then starbucks. That's the reputation he made for himself so people will press him on actually doing something about it But this ain't a Punk thread. And Any wrestler absolutely could share their feelings on this, should they? Is another story Apparently WWE instructed all their talent not to comment about it on their social media. So no they can't.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 26, 2024 14:16:05 GMT -5
OH MY f***ING GOD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH stop doing this sort of post in this thread.
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Post by markymark on Jan 26, 2024 14:16:30 GMT -5
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:17:16 GMT -5
And everyone, let's not turn this thread into a Punk discussion. You can badmouth Punk all you want in the other thread or start a new one if necessary. Use this thread to focus on the Vince matter.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Jan 26, 2024 14:17:37 GMT -5
If there is a post-Rumble presser, it's gonna absolutely just have pre-approved people who'll be told to ask kayfabe questions.
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 26, 2024 14:18:23 GMT -5
I just let the courts decide everything, but it sickens me the media has allowed the name and picture of the alleged victim to circulate.
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 26, 2024 14:19:00 GMT -5
All there is to say is that it motherf***ing WASN'T consensual. There's too much of a power imbalance, like you said. To bring it to Wenstein, people were trying to say that the actresses went with it, that's because of the power. They stand up to him, and they wind up like Mira Sorvino or Ashley Judd who saw their careers tank. Now imagine a low level staffer and the owner of a massive worldwide company. Vince would have crushed her like a gnat. There was no consent, because she couldn't give consent due to the power imbalance. Most of the people questioning the consent did not read Ms.Grants circumstances as well. Vince preyed on a woman that wasn't in a good space mentally and just lost her parents. Vince is a monster. As much as I despise New Jack he was right about Vince being a pimp just not in the way he thinks. Nobody is questioning her consent... They are questioning Brock's knowledge or lack there was of it. All we know for certain is the attorneys felt there wasn't enough evidence to sue him.
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Post by SneakMan on Jan 26, 2024 14:19:24 GMT -5
Does “knew about this” refer to knowing about the lawsuit or knowing about what Vince allegedly did?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 26, 2024 14:19:38 GMT -5
I'm saying this now as a mod, IF THIS DOES GO TO TRIAL, DO NOT POST ANY TEXTS/PHOTO MESSAGES OF VINCE'S PENIS/NUDES that are used as evidence in the trial. there has been a few rule breaks already in the thread (wwe footage not from an official account, a couple of attempts at sneaking a certain celebrity-politician in, one flat out mention of said celebrity-politician, sniping at each other.) which have been dealt with quietly... I WILL PERSONALLY BAN ANYONE WHO POSTS VINCE'S NUDES. it's being said now so that everyone has no excuses on posting it in the future. yes I fully expect vince to have sent dick pics/videos and no I do not wish to see his bits. Oh good lord, I hadn't realised until now how high the chance Vince's dick pics have of being public record in the near future.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jan 26, 2024 14:20:13 GMT -5
Sorry not the go off topic but I don’t know the answer to it. If this does go to trial can this thread stay open ? On another forum I’m on, if something that is being discussed got to court, it’s an immediate locking of the thread. That makes no sense. Unless we're discussing juvenile matters, courts are open to the public and everyone goes into the public record. The only reason we would er on the side of caution is if politics are involved. And believe me, if we were around during the OJ Simpson trial, we'd be chatting up a storm. Sorry. It’s just here in Ireland a thread like this would be closed once it went to trial. And I was only asking a question.
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:20:34 GMT -5
I just let the courts decide everything, but it sickens me the media has allowed the name and picture of the alleged victim to circulate. I don't know about the photo, but her name entered the public realm the moment she filed the lawsuit. Just as we're discussing it now, any tom, dick and harry can get a copy and find her name. The media is no different.
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Post by callmekc on Jan 26, 2024 14:20:49 GMT -5
Dude made himself a fake reputation of being a guy that fights for the right causes ,that stands up for people that can't. He is the guy that came every week with a shirt that represents a cause. He is the guy that defended women by buying then starbucks. That's the reputation he made for himself so people will press him on actually doing something about it But this ain't a Punk thread. And Any wrestler absolutely could share their feelings on this, should they? Is another story Apparently WWE instructed all their talent not to comment about it on their social media. So no they can't. This is the correct decision for the company and the wrestlers. Whether they know or not. Whether they are complicit or not this is something above them and commenting publicly right now does not help Ms Grant or anyone else involved. EDIT: I'm just going to be extra clear, when I say this os the correct decision I mean that this minimises their chance of ending up in court as a part of this situation. I want everyone involved to be gone whether they are wrestlers or employees.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 26, 2024 14:20:52 GMT -5
I just let the courts decide everything, but it sickens me the media has allowed the name and picture of the alleged victim to circulate. She filed the lawsuit? It was going to get out either way. WSJ got a look at the case early, I'm sure they had the photo too. She probably gave it to them.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 26, 2024 14:21:29 GMT -5
Most of the people questioning the consent did not read Ms.Grants circumstances as well. Vince preyed on a woman that wasn't in a good space mentally and just lost her parents. Vince is a monster. As much as I despise New Jack he was right about Vince being a pimp just not in the way he thinks. Nobody is questioning her consent... They are questioning Brock's knowledge or lack there was of it. All we know for certain is the attorneys felt there wasn't enough evidence to sue him. I shouldve made it clear. That was for nobody in here. That was for people on social media. Yeah without Brock raping her hes exempt from this case. Only reason why he is.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 26, 2024 14:21:39 GMT -5
*thinks back to HHH's answers during scrums about Velveteen Dream*
Maybe they should just not do a scrum this weekend
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Post by mattyy on Jan 26, 2024 14:23:03 GMT -5
Slim Jim has pulled their sponsorship of Royal Rumble
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Post by chazraps on Jan 26, 2024 14:23:09 GMT -5
Another note: Wrestlenomics has been very wrong on contract/deal shit in the past an frequently presents speculation as fact without the two being properly distinguished. I wouldn't put Thurston in the credible Mike Johnson tier of wrestling journalists. He's moreso in the tier just below Meltzer/SRS but above Hausman. Something to keep in mind when reading his reporting among others.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 26, 2024 14:24:02 GMT -5
Slim Jim has pulled their sponsorship of Royal Rumble This is per a banned source, and the tweet said they're hearing 'rumblings.' Not confirmed.
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