chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Jan 26, 2024 14:25:34 GMT -5
Slim Jim has pulled their sponsorship of Royal Rumble As of 1:24 PM CT - they haven't publicly pulled out yet. Wrestlevotes tweeted a short time ago they're "hearing rumblings" of it and now the wrestling news echochamber is reporting it as fact. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 26, 2024 14:26:02 GMT -5
It's only fate and weather that prevented Lesnar from apparently having non-consensual sex with the victim. I'm sure that's enough to get Lesnar out of legal trouble because it didn't happen, but it doesn't stop him from being a sick f*** that needs to go. Imagine accepting a woman from your boss as part of a new contract. She's a person, not a piece of meat or a possession to be passed around. Lesnar doesn't look good in this at all, even if he thought it was consensual. And it just shows how sickening both McMahon and Lesnar are if they thought it was an acceptable thing to do. If I was a woman working for WWE, I would not feel comfortable working with someone like Brock Lesnar. The real answer to "maybe he thought it was consensual", for as dumb a line of inquiry as that is, is "he thought that because he sees women as property that can be bargained for and handed out like party favours" and that's not actually consent, that's just someone at peace with being horrible. |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jan 26, 2024 14:27:16 GMT -5
I just let the courts decide everything, but it sickens me the media has allowed the name and picture of the alleged victim to circulate. I don't know about the photo, but her name entered the public realm the moment she filed the lawsuit. Just as we're discussing it now, any tom, dick and harry can get a copy and find her name. The media is no different. Yeah, it was always gonna come out at this point. But f*** Brad Shephard for leaking it last year as part of an intimidation tactic. |
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:27:22 GMT -5
*thinks back to HHH's answers during scrums about Velveteen Dream* Maybe they should just not do a scrum this weekend A few weeks ago, the question was whether Hausman would be allowed in the scrum. Now we're discussing whether it'll happen at all. Think we were happier a few weeks ago. |
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Post by 06vwgti on Jan 26, 2024 14:28:35 GMT -5
I don't know about the photo, but her name entered the public realm the moment she filed the lawsuit. Just as we're discussing it now, any tom, dick and harry can get a copy and find her name. The media is no different. Yeah, it was always gonna come out at this point. But f*** Brad Shephard for leaking it last year as part of an intimidation tactic. And the rest of the news sites for using a picture of another women as the victim. |
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Post by markymark on Jan 26, 2024 14:32:03 GMT -5
Does “knew about this” refer to knowing about the lawsuit or knowing about what Vince allegedly did?
The latter.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 26, 2024 14:32:42 GMT -5
I'm saying this now as a mod, IF THIS DOES GO TO TRIAL, DO NOT POST ANY TEXTS/PHOTO MESSAGES OF VINCE'S PENIS/NUDES that are used as evidence in the trial. there has been a few rule breaks already in the thread (wwe footage not from an official account, a couple of attempts at sneaking a certain celebrity-politician in, one flat out mention of said celebrity-politician, sniping at each other.) which have been dealt with quietly... I WILL PERSONALLY BAN ANYONE WHO POSTS VINCE'S NUDES. it's being said now so that everyone has no excuses on posting it in the future. yes I fully expect vince to have sent dick pics/videos and no I do not wish to see his bits. Oh good lord, I hadn't realised until now how high the chance Vince's dick pics have of being public record in the near future. yeah it suddenly hit me that it was possible, and I realised that I had no desire to witness it. |
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Post by Legion on Jan 26, 2024 14:34:40 GMT -5
If only Brock had close relationships with people who might know how Vince treats consent he might have known better. Say, someone who might have filed a lawsuit based on sexual harassment and unsafe working conditions. Yeah, screw Brock, I'd be shocked if he didn't know exactly what was happening. Is it wrong that a part of me feels that Vince offering Brock the chance to cheat on Sable feels like exactly something he'd do just to know he got one over her because of that suit? |
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:35:04 GMT -5
Even worse, the victim's photos would be presented as evidence during trial.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Jan 26, 2024 14:35:51 GMT -5
Slim Jim has pulled their sponsorship of Royal Rumble As of 1:24 PM CT - they haven't publicly pulled out yet. Wrestlevotes tweeted a short time ago they're "hearing rumblings" of it and now the wrestling news echochamber is reporting it as fact. FWIW, this page for a contest Slim Jim was running no longer works. |
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Post by callmekc on Jan 26, 2024 14:37:09 GMT -5
Even worse, the victim's photos would be presented as evidence during trial. yes. That is absolutely going to happen. The only 'defence' that Vince can use is that she consented and anything she sent him will be presented as evidence. It is going to be absolutely motherf***ing vile. |
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Post by JTG on Jan 26, 2024 14:37:36 GMT -5
Business as usual
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 26, 2024 14:38:24 GMT -5
I just want to say that I am extremely uncomfortable with the conversation delving into the suggestion that the victim's involvement in all of this was consensual. Sure, that's going to be McMahon's legal team's defense, but starting to get into the weeds of "well, it looks to me from those text messages that she was a willing participant" feels icky to me and this forum doesn't feel like the place for it. At the end of the day, there is a profound imbalance of power between the billionaire CEO of a large publicly traded company, the multimillionaire highest paid special attraction of said company, and a low-level employee. Arguably, said low level employee can't even consent, legally speaking, to the kinds of things that she was allegedly subjected to here when it was conveyed to her that her job and livelihood could be taken away if she didn't agree. In other words, one can agree to something, but not be a willing participant. I don't know how many folks here have had to complete sexual harassment awareness modules as part of new employee onboarding at some point or another, but one of the examples that is always, always mentioned is Quid Pro Quo, and this is a damn near textbook instance of it, complete with the utterly absurd power disparity like you mentioned. It's such a cut-and-dry example that it almost feels like Vince was using those HR modules as a how-to guide, for crying out loud. I give those sexual harassment type trainings and yes Vince’s behavior is to a T quid pro quo sexual harassment, and goes well beyond that too. |
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Post by Mecca on Jan 26, 2024 14:38:49 GMT -5
We are going to pretend nothing happened. |
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Post by jm on Jan 26, 2024 14:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 26, 2024 14:41:42 GMT -5
We are going to pretend nothing happened. TKO/Endeavor already gave the order. |
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 26, 2024 14:43:12 GMT -5
It's only fate and weather that prevented Lesnar from apparently having non-consensual sex with the victim. I'm sure that's enough to get Lesnar out of legal trouble because it didn't happen, but it doesn't stop him from being a sick f*** that needs to go. Imagine accepting a woman from your boss as part of a new contract. She's a person, not a piece of meat or a possession to be passed around. Lesnar doesn't look good in this at all, even if he thought it was consensual. And it just shows how sickening both McMahon and Lesnar are if they thought it was an acceptable thing to do. If I was a woman working for WWE, I would not feel comfortable working with someone like Brock Lesnar. I think that's the other question. If they didn't have sex, and Brock still resigned was she really apart of the contract? |
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Post by Stu on Jan 26, 2024 14:45:11 GMT -5
Triple H shouldn't have done that tweet. That said, what else are they supposed to do? Can't cancel Smackdown and the Royal Rumble. They need to keep the business running and have the non-players continue with their work while the investigation and damage control takes place.
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Post by Schizo on Jan 26, 2024 14:46:42 GMT -5
I mean, they still have the Rumble tomorrow |
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 26, 2024 14:47:51 GMT -5
It's only fate and weather that prevented Lesnar from apparently having non-consensual sex with the victim. I'm sure that's enough to get Lesnar out of legal trouble because it didn't happen, but it doesn't stop him from being a sick f*** that needs to go. Imagine accepting a woman from your boss as part of a new contract. She's a person, not a piece of meat or a possession to be passed around. Lesnar doesn't look good in this at all, even if he thought it was consensual. And it just shows how sickening both McMahon and Lesnar are if they thought it was an acceptable thing to do. If I was a woman working for WWE, I would not feel comfortable working with someone like Brock Lesnar. I think that's the other question. If they didn't have sex, and Brock still resigned was she really apart of the contract? I very much doubt she was a written clause. Even Vince McMahon isn't that dumb and no lawyer on the planet would write that in. It would have only ever been a verbal thing. |
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