DichEvans
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 31, 2024 23:50:32 GMT -5
I was talking with a group of friends who all thought Starship Troopers was just a mindless, cheesy, nationalistic action movie. I still can't believe how many people don't really pay attention to the movie
In reality, it's a very subtle (and dry) parody of a cheesy action movie. They dressed up a fascist world, where we colonize/enslave innocent other world's, with 90's good looking actors and the same cheesy plot, and made the general public look right past it. The movie itself is a commentary on how we look past our own atrocities because of propaganda.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 1, 2024 0:30:35 GMT -5
Nope.
The same way people don't get Fight Club.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Feb 1, 2024 0:38:33 GMT -5
Maybe it's nuanced, maybe it's not. But it IS a complete and utter failure in adapting the source material.
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Post by pinja on Feb 1, 2024 3:14:19 GMT -5
It's a Paul Verhoeven sci-fi flick, which should be about as much answer as needed.
Starship Troopers being misunderstood is a tale as old as the movie itself. Question is whether it matters when it can be read like that? Intention can absolve someone from guilt, but sadly not from consequence. That's the beauty and the bane of "texts".
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Post by Gunhaver on Feb 1, 2024 3:18:36 GMT -5
Maybe it's nuanced, maybe it's not. But it IS a complete and utter failure in adapting the source material. My understanding is that the director hated the source material. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2024 3:22:35 GMT -5
Let me save you some time
Nobody understands what anything is actually about
Nobody knows what Starship Troopers or Fight Club are about
Nobody knows what Born in the USA or "Heroes" are about
Nobody listens to the lyrics of 'I Would Do Anything For Love' to find out the four specifically named 'that's which he lists in the song
Yes these things' actual points are well documented, and nobody cares except for f***ing nerds like us
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 1, 2024 6:49:10 GMT -5
Most people I know get the message pretty well. It's the people who piss and moan about the movie not playing the book's jingoistic rhetoric completely straight that annoy me.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 1, 2024 7:05:21 GMT -5
Let me save you some time Nobody understands what anything is actually about Nobody knows what Starship Troopers or Fight Club are about Nobody knows what Born in the USA or "Heroes" are about Nobody listens to the lyrics of 'I Would Do Anything For Love' to find out the four specifically named 'that's which he lists in the song Yes these things' actual points are well documented, and nobody cares except for f***ing nerds like us Fight Club is about a dude going nuts and the lesson is that just because you’re bored with your life doesn’t give you the right to start up destructive cults. Like, why would anyone want to be Tyler Durden? His apartment smells like week old scrambled eggs and butt sweat. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2024 8:23:09 GMT -5
Let me save you some time Nobody understands what anything is actually about Nobody knows what Starship Troopers or Fight Club are about Nobody knows what Born in the USA or "Heroes" are about Nobody listens to the lyrics of 'I Would Do Anything For Love' to find out the four specifically named 'that's which he lists in the song Yes these things' actual points are well documented, and nobody cares except for f***ing nerds like us Fight Club is about a dude going nuts and the lesson is that just because you’re bored with your life doesn’t give you the right to start up destructive cults. Like, why would anyone want to be Tyler Durden? His apartment smells like week old scrambled eggs and butt sweat. Congratulations, you paid attention Unlike the people who literally started fight clubs after the movie came out |
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Post by Fundertaker on Feb 1, 2024 8:31:32 GMT -5
Maybe it's nuanced, maybe it's not. But it IS a complete and utter failure in adapting the source material. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing either. |
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 1, 2024 9:42:09 GMT -5
Maybe it's nuanced, maybe it's not. But it IS a complete and utter failure in adapting the source material. My understanding is that the director hated the source material. And considering said director is the guy who made a film about a cyborg police officer also a biting commentary on the perils of a corporate-run world of privatized police services and capitalism gone rampant, it’s not a surprise. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2024 11:49:51 GMT -5
My understanding is that the director hated the source material. And considering said director is the guy who made a film about a cyborg police officer also a biting commentary on the perils of a corporate-run world of privatized police services and capitalism gone rampant, it’s not a surprise. Oh hey speaking of movies nobody understands |
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 1, 2024 11:51:03 GMT -5
I don't care if it's nuanced or not. Blood and gore go brrrrr.
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Post by Fade on Feb 1, 2024 12:33:27 GMT -5
Beauty is it can be both.
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Post by cosmo on Feb 1, 2024 12:36:41 GMT -5
Sometimes I just want to watch a movie where the army fights alien bugs without being preached at about how the military is evil or whatever, is that so wrong?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 1, 2024 12:45:41 GMT -5
And considering said director is the guy who made a film about a cyborg police officer also a biting commentary on the perils of a corporate-run world of privatized police services and capitalism gone rampant, it’s not a surprise. Oh hey speaking of movies nobody understands though, in this case, it's the people making the movies who didn't understand, since they just went ahead and made Robocop more kid friendly by the time of the third film. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Feb 1, 2024 13:24:16 GMT -5
It boggles my mind they people don't get that it's satire. A brilliant satire made by the same director who made Robocop, which is one of the greatest satires, action movies and sci fi of the past 40 years. But they don't.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 1, 2024 13:34:28 GMT -5
Oh hey speaking of movies nobody understands though, in this case, it's the people making the movies who didn't understand, since they just went ahead and made Robocop more kid friendly by the time of the third film. The R-rated action movie -> Kid's cartoon and toy line pipeline of the 80s and 90s was pretty wild. |
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Post by FinalGwen on Feb 1, 2024 13:38:41 GMT -5
Sometimes I just want to watch a movie where the army fights alien bugs without being preached at about how the military is evil or whatever, is that so wrong? I don't think there's any shortage of this kind of movie (unless the bug aspect of the aliens is really crucial, in which case there's still likely several). |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2024 14:50:03 GMT -5
Sometimes I just want to watch a movie where the army fights alien bugs without being preached at about how the military is evil or whatever, is that so wrong? Immaterial. Nobody said you had to like it - only that a lot of people who like it don't understand it Totally different discussions |
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