Is Wrestlemania Night 1 last match considered a main event?

["Trickster Dogg" James Jesse]

Feb 18, 2024 16:58:04 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

At what point did the mindset shift from the main event simply being “the most important match” to “the ONLY important match, and literally every other match is therefore non-essential and a waste of my precious time”?

[King Devitt and the Woke Mob]

Main event of the first night? Yes, of course.

The actual main event of WM? No.

[darbus alan]

It's a main event as it's the featured and final, advertised contest for Night 1. But night two's is still THE main event of the whole thing IMO.

[stoptheclocks]

Feb 18, 2024 17:41:50 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Seems completely arbitrary and stupid for it not to. It's still headlining a show that tens of thousands of people are in attendance for and it's not like only the last act on the last day at a music festival counts.

No, but musical festival line-ups are driven by availability of their performers and don't necessarily put the biggest act on the Sunday night. If they did and it was well known that they did, that slot would no doubt become more coveted than the others.

I think this is pretty simple. The day WWE put the clear #1 match on night 1 is when you could argue the slots are equal. Cody vs Roman will 100% be on night two, because it's the headline match and the main event of WrestleMania.

[fw91]

Feb 18, 2024 17:41:50 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Seems completely arbitrary and stupid for it not to. It's still headlining a show that tens of thousands of people are in attendance for and it's not like only the last act on the last day at a music festival counts.

fantastic comparison.

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Feb 18, 2024 19:56:05 GMT -5 darbus alan said:

It's a main event as it's the featured and final, advertised contest for Night 1. But night two's is still THE main event of the whole thing IMO.

This is exactly how I see it.

Night 1 is A main event

Night 2 is THE main event.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Yes it is. The two nights are two different shows, and thus each has a main event.

Night 2 is probably going to have the bigger starpower in its main event match, but that doesn't make Night 1's final match not a main event. Does Takeover or Raw or Smackdown not have a main event that week because those show's final matches aren't as big as Roman vs. Cody Rhodes or Roman vs. Rock?

[chazraps]

Of course it is a main event. Your ticket is only good for the one night. The match going on last putting the butts in seats for that night's closer is the main event.

We're talking strict definition of the main event here. It's the match that's on last at an event. Night 1 and Night 2 are separate events with separate tickets.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

It absolutely is. It is it's own show. It has a main event.

You can walk away watching only Night 1 (and hey most 2 night Mania's Night 1 by far has been the better show so you might be better off doing so).

It's a main event, and it is part of Wrestlemania so it is a Wrestlemania main event.

[Renslayer]

Some of y'all are strict. Of course it's a main event

["Trickster Dogg" James Jesse]

"Wrestlemanias today have two main events because it gets more people on the card, but c'mon man... People main-eventing night #1, you know what part of the card you're really on."
"What part of the card are you on?"
"The main event on night #1."
"No, you're not. Go out for night #1, you'll be done Wrestlemania earlier!"

[Fade]

Feb 18, 2024 17:20:47 GMT -5 Rolent Tex said:

Wasn’t there a Mania where they had four main events? The one with Hogan vs Vince?

Yeah, that’s where it gets tricky and nebulous.

What was the main event of WMX8? Of WM25? Truly?

I like to think it’s a main event but not The Main Event. If we’re going by Al snows “handy” comparison, the main event of night is definitely that night’s “Pop”. But you’re working from the bottom to get another Pop the next night. And after that one, you’re going to sleep.

[Rolent Tex]

Feb 18, 2024 17:36:27 GMT -5 Magnus the Magnificent said:

Feb 18, 2024 17:20:47 GMT -5 Rolent Tex said:

Wasn’t there a Mania where they had four main events? The one with Hogan vs Vince?

Yup.
XiX, or 19, back in 2003.

The stupidest damn thing is it took three finishers each to end 3 of the 4 main events…

…and Booker T got bitched out to one Pedigree.

[DZ: WF Legacy]

Last match of the night, crowd goes home after, it's a main event. Is it *the* main event of the weekend? Nope. But it is 100% a main event, especially when you factor in that some of these fans aren't buying the expensive 2-night combo package and are only spending money for one show.

Kevin Owens main-evented 2 Wrestlemanias in a row.

[stoptheclocks]

Feb 18, 2024 23:02:54 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Of course it is a main event. Your ticket is only good for the one night. The match going on last putting the butts in seats for that night's closer is the main event.

We're talking strict definition of the main event here. It's the match that's on last at an event. Night 1 and Night 2 are separate events with separate tickets.

Are we talking the strict definition of main event? If we are, then sure it's a main event. Many WWE shows have billed themselves as having multiple main events down the years.

If we're talking about the prestige of being in THE main event of WrestleMania or being a WrestleMania main eventer, then it's comparing Seth Rollins' world title vs the one held by Roman Reigns. What WWE see as their biggest match, the one that headlines the event, will always go on last on the Sunday.

To go back to the music comparison, on a co-headline tour where one band always goes on last, everyone knows who the headline act is. Everyone knows what the main event of this WrestleMania is.

However, as far as it being a thing people fixate on, it's a slightly nebulous part-kayfabe driven honor anyway. Lawrence Taylor is a WrestleMania main eventer and CM Punk isn't.

[cornettesracket]

Yes of course it is. It’s the main event of the night. The question asked was is it a main event and the obvious answer is yes. The fact that mania is now two nights has actually stopped the shit where they tried to sell us that a world title match going on first counted as a main event.

[chazraps]

Feb 19, 2024 3:49:10 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

Feb 18, 2024 23:02:54 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Of course it is a main event. Your ticket is only good for the one night. The match going on last putting the butts in seats for that night's closer is the main event.

We're talking strict definition of the main event here. It's the match that's on last at an event. Night 1 and Night 2 are separate events with separate tickets.

Are we talking the strict definition of main event? If we are, then sure it's a main event. Many WWE shows have billed themselves as having multiple main events down the years.

If we're talking about the prestige of being in THE main event of WrestleMania or being a WrestleMania main eventer, then it's comparing Seth Rollins' world title vs the one held by Roman Reigns. What WWE see as their biggest match, the one that headlines the event, will always go on last on the Sunday.

To go back to the music comparison, on a co-headline tour where one band always goes on last, everyone knows who the headline act is. Everyone knows what the main event of this WrestleMania is.

However, as far as it being a thing people fixate on, it's a slightly nebulous part-kayfabe driven honor anyway. Lawrence Taylor is a WrestleMania main eventer and CM Punk isn't.

Co-headlining tour is a poor comparison as that's still ONE ticket for a single night of a tour.

Wrestlemania nights 1 and 2 have two separate tickets. When you look at festivals that sell Night 1 and Night 2 tickets, or Weekend 1 and Weekend 2 tickets, those nights all have separate equally billed headliners. Foo Fighters and Kendrick Lamar headlined separate night of Bonaroo last year that required separate tickets. They had equally large font size on the poster. It'd be ridiculous to say *only* Foo Fighters headlined since they played the final night.

[Kalmia]

It's a main event but I wouldn't consider it the defining main event of Wrestlemania, if that makes sense? They main evented a show, but didn't main event the entirety of Wrestlemania.

[stoptheclocks]

Feb 19, 2024 4:12:06 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Feb 19, 2024 3:49:10 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

Are we talking the strict definition of main event? If we are, then sure it's a main event. Many WWE shows have billed themselves as having multiple main events down the years.

If we're talking about the prestige of being in THE main event of WrestleMania or being a WrestleMania main eventer, then it's comparing Seth Rollins' world title vs the one held by Roman Reigns. What WWE see as their biggest match, the one that headlines the event, will always go on last on the Sunday.

To go back to the music comparison, on a co-headline tour where one band always goes on last, everyone knows who the headline act is. Everyone knows what the main event of this WrestleMania is.

However, as far as it being a thing people fixate on, it's a slightly nebulous part-kayfabe driven honor anyway. Lawrence Taylor is a WrestleMania main eventer and CM Punk isn't.

Co-headlining tour is a poor comparison as that's still ONE ticket for a single night of a tour.

Wrestlemania nights 1 and 2 have two separate tickets. When you look at festivals that sell Night 1 and Night 2 tickets, or Weekend 1 and Weekend 2 tickets, those nights all have separate equally billed headliners. Foo Fighters and Kendrick Lamar headlined separate night of Bonaroo last year that required separate tickets. They had equally large font size on the poster. It'd be ridiculous to say *only* Foo Fighters headlined since they played the final night.

Your Bonaroo example is exactly why a festival is a poor comparison for this.

Two years ago Glastonbury had Paul McCartney headlining the Saturday and Kendrick Lamar headlining the Sunday. There is no comparison between the size of those artists in the UK. However, Glastonbury (like all other music festivals) book based on availability of artists first and foremost, not merit. There is no established history of one night being the more prestigious night to play.

WWE don't do that. What they believe to be the biggest match headlines night two, always has and always will. The Foo Fighters don't care what night they play Bonaroo, every wrestler would rather be in the last match on the Sunday. That's why it's the main event.

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It's so funny to me that before he got hurt, CM Punk was going to be "Main Eventing Night One of the Buy One Get One Free Extravaganza" he bashed word for word not even a year prior...