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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 27, 2024 8:45:07 GMT -5
This thread is saving me money. I never got the whole "don't play the one thing the fans came to see" thing. Send 'em home disappointed with that $150 ticket! I can understand it from both directions. One on the hand, f*** the audience, make the art you want to make and let the audience come to you. On the other hand, the fans are here to see something, you should probably do it. With that said, if you're coming to a whole show for one song - which some people are, not saying anyone in this thread necessarily is - then I feel like you're an idiot The Beastie Boys didnt play Licensed To Ill (or any pre-Pauls Boutique stuff for that matter) material live later in their careers. That's wildly not true. "No Sleep Til Brooklyn" was a regular fixure, often their opener. They also frequently did "Paul Revere," "Egg Man" and "Shake Your Rump" - the latter gave a chance for Mix Master Mike to shine and play different instrumentals under it. In fairness to this guy, Chaz, I have seen this reported in multiple places as being accurate about the Beasties. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying it's a very well perpetuated myth.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 27, 2024 15:00:08 GMT -5
Guess I was wrong about the Beasties (though I did point out that I thought they didnt play any PRE-Paul's Boutique stuff, Shake Your Rump and Egg Man were from that album). That said, they DID edit the lyrics to No Sleep Till Brooklyn live to get rid of the more sexist lines
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 27, 2024 15:46:53 GMT -5
Guess I was wrong about the Beasties (though I did point out that I thought they didnt play any PRE-Paul's Boutique stuff, Shake Your Rump and Egg Man were from that album). That said, they DID edit the lyrics to No Sleep Till Brooklyn live to get rid of the more sexist lines Can’t imagine Ad-Rock’s marriage would have lasted had they not toned down the sexism. I am only passingly familiar with his wife, but from what I do know my initial reaction to your statement was, “ of course. Otherwise she’d kick his ass.”
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 27, 2024 23:58:13 GMT -5
Bob Dylan doesn't play any of his songs live anymore. Dylan was never one to address the audience and play the hits. He does what he does. Bob Dylan is not there for the audience, the audience is there for Bob Dylan. And there's very, very few artists who can pull that shit off.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 28, 2024 15:12:43 GMT -5
I've heard that the Black Crowes never follow a said set list, so you dont know what songs you'll hear when you see them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 29, 2024 3:09:10 GMT -5
Korn RARELY plays "Daddy" live, due to it being almost 10 minutes long and the explicit nature of the song
Last time I believe that they did was in 2015, 20 years after the last time they played it which was the 20th Anniversary of the album as well. They played it every set of that tour, and Davis said after that they'd never do it live again, and that's held up almost a decade later since.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 29, 2024 7:10:33 GMT -5
Korn RARELY plays "Daddy" live, due to it being almost 10 minutes long and the explicit nature of the song Last time I believe that they did was in 2015, 20 years after the last time they played it which was the 20th Anniversary of the album as well. They played it every set of that tour, and Davis said after that they'd never do it live again, and that's held up almost a decade later since. It's also a particularly harrowing song for Jon to perform. Him breaking down and crying towards the end of the album version was no act.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 29, 2024 7:31:24 GMT -5
There are a large number of songs TOOL has not played live in a number of varying years probably for the same varying reasons, some best known ones people really like to try and catch are like Eulogy, Undertow, Pushit, etc
Others that have only been played a handful of times live EVER (If not less) are Wings (part one and two), Maynard's Dick, Disgustipated, Die Eir Von Satan, Ticks & Leeches, Faaip de Oiad, Viginti Tres and Lipan Conjouring.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 29, 2024 8:51:22 GMT -5
Korn RARELY plays "Daddy" live, due to it being almost 10 minutes long and the explicit nature of the song Last time I believe that they did was in 2015, 20 years after the last time they played it which was the 20th Anniversary of the album as well. They played it every set of that tour, and Davis said after that they'd never do it live again, and that's held up almost a decade later since. It's also a particularly harrowing song for Jon to perform. Him breaking down and crying towards the end of the album version was no act. Yet another example of why I don't take most criticisms of nu-metal seriously Yes, they were all just manchildren with no real problems, hence... this song
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 29, 2024 8:55:38 GMT -5
It's also a particularly harrowing song for Jon to perform. Him breaking down and crying towards the end of the album version was no act. Yet another example of why I don't take most criticisms of nu-metal seriously Yes, they were all just manchildren with no real problems, hence... this song Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo".
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 29, 2024 8:57:12 GMT -5
Yet another example of why I don't take most criticisms of nu-metal seriously Yes, they were all just manchildren with no real problems, hence... this song Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". Yup. And post-Chester Bennington, I am 100% done with entertaining this bullshit
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 29, 2024 9:08:08 GMT -5
Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". Yup. And post-Chester Bennington, I am 100% done with entertaining this bullshit Yeah as goofy and ham-fisted as "Crawling" may have been, I just feel icky laughing about it now.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 29, 2024 11:59:29 GMT -5
Don't think the new incarnation of the Dead Kennedys has ever did Pull my Strings live. And the original versioon of the band only did it once.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 29, 2024 12:06:22 GMT -5
Yet another example of why I don't take most criticisms of nu-metal seriously Yes, they were all just manchildren with no real problems, hence... this song Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". Counter-point, it's always morally correct to make fun of Staind's Aaron Lewis because he's a schmuck.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 29, 2024 12:15:45 GMT -5
Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". Counter-point, it's always morally correct to make fun of Staind's Aaron Lewis because he's a schmuck. Aaron Lewis brought it on himself throughout
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Post by XIII on Feb 29, 2024 12:29:24 GMT -5
Yet another example of why I don't take most criticisms of nu-metal seriously Yes, they were all just manchildren with no real problems, hence... this song Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". I think that because Nu Metal became a moneymaker you got a lot of people faking it for the cash and ruining it for the legit people with issues. Same thing with grunge when everyone was walking around all depressed because it was working for Nirvana/Kurt even though a lot of the time he was pretty jovial in interviews and had legit mental/physical issues.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 29, 2024 12:45:44 GMT -5
Andre 3000 still does Hey Ya, but boy does he hate doing it
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Post by BJ Sturgeon on Feb 29, 2024 15:33:41 GMT -5
Weird Al has a few: He said in a 2015 interview that he doesn't perform Jerry Springer live anymore due to the lyrics containing words that are considered slurs nowadays. He very rarely performs Albuquerque live because it's almost 12 minutes long. He rarely performs Hardware Store live because of the fast spoken section. He stopped performing his Michael Jackson parodies live after Leaving Neverland came out. He wasn’t going to do Albuquerque at all, until he had a concert there and realized he pretty much had to. He realized it wasn’t that bad to do live and it makes a somewhat frequent appearance now. I’ve seen him do it. Even changed his dream job up to at Tim Horton’s to fit the Canadian crowd. And he pauses the song after the "hermaphrodite" line, to address the audience about sensibilities changing over time.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 29, 2024 16:35:51 GMT -5
Did Dr. Dre do Dre Day after Eazy E's death?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 29, 2024 19:35:11 GMT -5
Honestly on top of rampant classism, the shitty attitude towards nu metal was often "mental illness isn't a real problem, pull up your poor straps kiddo". Counter-point, it's always morally correct to make fun of Staind's Aaron Lewis because he's a schmuck. This is the way
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