markymark
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Post by markymark on Mar 7, 2024 17:10:04 GMT -5
Bruv and Kyle didnt deserve this.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Mar 7, 2024 17:12:53 GMT -5
I wanna see what the ratings would be like if the bucks had a big announcement every 15 minutes and one of them is "this big announcement is that the next big announcement has double the announcements!"
Easy ratings.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 7, 2024 17:14:03 GMT -5
As someone keeping tabs from afar, all I can suggest is for them to stay the course. They’ve got a vision that differentiates itself from the market leader, they’ve definitely got the talent, the network has faith in them… Anything else that could affect these numbers one way or another seems entirely out of their hands, unfortunately.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Mar 7, 2024 17:24:25 GMT -5
Oh wow, that's not a good rating at all, especially coming off of the heels of such a critically acclaimed PPV.
Hopefully it's just an anomaly because AEW's programming is really enjoyable right now and that was a good episode of Dynamite.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2024 17:30:27 GMT -5
Hard to deny that that is just a bad ratings coming off a hot PPV.
That being said, AEW ratings can be weird at times. A great show is low, then a meh show the next week goes back up.
I think one thing AEW COULD do perhaps to help is to advertise their cards more in advance. And also make debuts, well not “surprises” as well maybe.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 7, 2024 17:34:58 GMT -5
As someone keeping tabs from afar, all I can suggest is for them to stay the course. They’ve got a vision that differentiates itself from the market leader, they’ve definitely got the talent, the network has faith in them… Anything else that could affect these numbers one way or another seems entirely out of their hands, unfortunately. Yep. The bulk of the potential weekly audience don't buy the ppvs and even fewer watch njpw. To many it was a main event built around a heel stable that had cooled off massively until recently, led by a manager they hate, newish guy vs goon. So when they're bored of Jay White droning on there's little reason to stick around to the end. There's no emotional investment yet. But over time they'll inevitably win people over when they wrestle like that.
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Post by Tom Selleck on Mar 7, 2024 17:43:22 GMT -5
Anyone else think they should just come out and announce Mone for next week? And really advertise it wherever they can. I know the hardcore fans know she is coming in but those people are watching anyways. She is popular so why not announce her and try to get some casuals/Sasha Banks fans to tune in to see her debut.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 7, 2024 17:59:01 GMT -5
Anyone else think they should just come out and announce Mone for next week? And really advertise it wherever they can. I know the hardcore fans know she is coming in but those people are watching anyways. She is popular so why not announce her and try to get some casuals/Sasha Banks fans to tune in to see her debut. I’ve been thinking that for awhile now honestly. I get that TK did it with Punk and it worked. But 1. Mercedes is not Punk. And 2. AEW arguably needs to advertise/hype things up more these days.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 7, 2024 18:19:21 GMT -5
You start the show with 30 min of UK you deserve the drop
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Post by jm on Mar 7, 2024 18:32:16 GMT -5
When you are cold, it takes a long time to build up momentum. AEW just needs to stay the course and continue to produce quality shows like last night and Revolution.
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on Mar 7, 2024 18:37:14 GMT -5
In part, I sorta feel like AEW's ratings collapse for a match like Ospreay vs Fletcher is brought on by AEW's desire to constantly book underneath talents as though they're on par with top level stars. I don't think that match last night made Ospreay look like a main event talent. I think it made him look like a dude who repeatedly struggled to defeat Kyle Fletcher.
I was watching last night from start to finish, and it was also pretty much what I've come to expect, for better and worse. The in ring work is consistently very good to great. It's great to see long matches with lots of cool moves, but I also tend to agree with the notion that it leads to a degree of overexposure. It's like the criticism for wrestling in general right now about the dramatic overuse of some moves like the superkick or Canadian Destroyer which used to be protected moves and are now transitional moves. I struggle to buy all but a very few moves as finishers in AEW... because nothing finishes matches! It's fine when it's on PPV. We've all come to expect a few finisher kickouts on PPV or maybe a special main event for a special TV event, but now we get like a dozen finisher-quality moves in regular TV matches for the sake of a dramatic kickout. It's become overbooked to the point of being almost grating instead of dramatic.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 7, 2024 18:51:30 GMT -5
AEW has had plenty of similarly booked main event matches that have held up fine. This didn't so you take note and move on. They shouldn't change booking plans or ideas for Ospreay based on that. It will take time for him to become a reliable TV draw.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Mar 7, 2024 18:57:49 GMT -5
The show seems to do the same audience every week + or - 50 to 100K people
not sure how big a difference that is in comparison to other prime time cable TV shows
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2024 19:06:48 GMT -5
In part, I sorta feel like AEW's ratings collapse for a match like Ospreay vs Fletcher is brought on by AEW's desire to constantly book underneath talents as though they're on par with top level stars. I don't think that match last night made Ospreay look like a main event talent. I think it made him look like a dude who repeatedly struggled to defeat Kyle Fletcher. The guy who knows Will so well because he helped bring him up career wise, literally lived with him, and is a champion in another promotion Kyle Fletcher Dude isn't a jobber. Also, just for further context, Will was working hurt, literally they stressed he wasn't 100 percent coming out of the Konosuke match, and he struggled for that reason too They explain these things to the viewer, consistently.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2024 19:08:41 GMT -5
If they don't get a good rating for Big Business I'd be worried
Very weird night of ratings, the Okada spike is good though, that's promising
A lot of fallout from the PPV, not a lot of big time matches could have played a factor. Next week is much bigger on paper including a world title match and expected debut so, we'll see how this ends up.
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Post by Doo Doo on Mar 7, 2024 19:09:36 GMT -5
I'm just here for Mothman's post.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 7, 2024 19:20:31 GMT -5
Like. I get it, dude’s a great wrestler and you want him to have a really good match in his debut but…guys.
We…*looks left, looks right* …we know you CAN have a match that’s somewhat competitive AND makes it clear who the big dog is…right???
Just because you CAN go 50-50 with someone doesn’t mean you should and low key, im placing that blame on promoter and talent cuz you gotta know better. Wrestling involves giving but it also involves taking. You don’t got to eat dude up but for f***’s sake, control the pace! Impose your will! Let him give you a scare but otherwise, you got this in the bag.
I promise you. Ask damn near every top star for an extended period. It really, truly, is ok to be selfish every now and then.
He should have never been put against a champion. Throw a dark order goof in there, have him tap that ass decisively in 6-7 minutes, maybe have him talk some shit afterwards, and you off to the races WITHOUT giving away dude’s first ultra competitive match right at the start.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 7, 2024 19:21:02 GMT -5
Bad Side: UK
Bright Side: I dont think there is any dispute that the New Young Bucks are a huge success.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 7, 2024 19:21:59 GMT -5
I'm just here for Mothman's post. I have no doubt of this, for what is an AEW fan but a rubbernecking sensationalist who only comes to something so they may watch it burn. Do you also stand by the road in anticipation of a car crash? Do you trawl the beaches looking for drowners, not to save them with any noble feat, but to watch them flail hopelessly and behold the water going still once more after it has fully consumed another life? Gawking at destruction seems to be all anyone wishes to do for so fetid a show as AEW Dynamite, the only entertainment that there is. Tony Khan cannot book anything but his own destruction and this flock of onlookers seeks only to revel in it. Very well, Sir Bad Doo Doo, you may have your entertainment on this eve, but know that on the morrow you must reckon again with a world where the destruction shall only entertain you until it is you who is on the road with a Tesla owner.
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on Mar 7, 2024 19:54:09 GMT -5
In part, I sorta feel like AEW's ratings collapse for a match like Ospreay vs Fletcher is brought on by AEW's desire to constantly book underneath talents as though they're on par with top level stars. I don't think that match last night made Ospreay look like a main event talent. I think it made him look like a dude who repeatedly struggled to defeat Kyle Fletcher. The guy who knows Will so well because he helped bring him up career wise, literally lived with him, and is a champion in another promotion Kyle Fletcher Dude isn't a jobber. Also, just for further context, Will was working hurt, literally they stressed he wasn't 100 percent coming out of the Konosuke match, and he struggled for that reason too They explain these things to the viewer, consistently. His championship in "another promotion" is a mid-card ROH title. That would be like if Charlie Dempsey showed up on Raw and had a hotly contested match with Cody Rhodes, nearly beating him multiple times. Additionally, perhaps instead of booking a match on short notice right after a PPV and having the announcers try to work it in during the match, it might be better to have a video package looking at their history and then promoting the match for the next week so the info could have some time to breathe. If they did do that, then my apologies. I probably wasn't paying attention.
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