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Post by Dub H on Mar 15, 2024 20:31:38 GMT -5
That Netflix thing is absolutely goddamn insane. Yes, there'll be people who are watching things in groups of more than two people to offset it a bit, but it's certainly not going to be anywhere close to the same amount of streams that are someone watching alone. I think the "idea" is that some number of people will also watch 3 people in the same screen, and they are using 2 as a median because of that. Still pretty stupid.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 16, 2024 1:06:07 GMT -5
Wondering since you guys would know more than me, but how often have they featured willow and rhio on the shows? If I had to guess, the big drop in the main was because fans haven't gotten that used to them compared to the rest of the roster
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Post by J is Justice on Mar 16, 2024 7:45:47 GMT -5
Wondering since you guys would know more than me, but how often have they featured willow and rhio on the shows? If I had to guess, the big drop in the main was because fans haven't gotten that used to them compared to the rest of the roster I know Riho's' been appearing quite a bit lately.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 16, 2024 7:50:00 GMT -5
While the ratings are not as bad as what people on Twitter want to make it seem. AEW has to find that angle, storyline or something to get them hot. We past the well sign a big free agent and that will be it. They should have higher ratings than they do and attendance like last night should be a regular thing. Example Okada shouldn't had a match on Collison. They gave fans 24 hrs to go by tickets since they next day tapped it. Not sure the reason why they needed to tape Collison on a Thursday. Okada should have a video or something to make the match and have more hype. That would increased the interest you think. CM Punk drew because of a long layoff. The ride after what because the stuff was so good. Like MJF and Punk was some of the best angle worked. They need to find that kind of creativeness. What hurts AEW more is the bad rep from the backstage drama and ext.That may have turns fans away. Ok.. ok.. I have a question. Can you articulate literally at all how you or anyone else would know this?
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Post by Dub H on Mar 16, 2024 8:50:15 GMT -5
While the ratings are not as bad as what people on Twitter want to make it seem. AEW has to find that angle, storyline or something to get them hot. We past the well sign a big free agent and that will be it. They should have higher ratings than they do and attendance like last night should be a regular thing. Example Okada shouldn't had a match on Collison. They gave fans 24 hrs to go by tickets since they next day tapped it. Not sure the reason why they needed to tape Collison on a Thursday. Okada should have a video or something to make the match and have more hype. That would increased the interest you think. CM Punk drew because of a long layoff. The ride after what because the stuff was so good. Like MJF and Punk was some of the best angle worked. They need to find that kind of creativeness. What hurts AEW more is the bad rep from the backstage drama and ext.That may have turns fans away. Ok.. ok.. I have a question. Can you articulate literally at all how you or anyone else would know this? From the feedback of people online.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Mar 16, 2024 9:13:44 GMT -5
Wondering since you guys would know more than me, but how often have they featured willow and rhio on the shows? If I had to guess, the big drop in the main was because fans haven't gotten that used to them compared to the rest of the roster Willow and Kris Statlander have been on tv a good deal the last 2 months or so doing an angle where Stokely is infatuated with Kris and trying to be her(and to a lesser extent Willow's) Manager. The previous week Kris and Riho had a match where Statlander lost after refusing to cheat
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 16, 2024 12:36:13 GMT -5
While the ratings are not as bad as what people on Twitter want to make it seem. AEW has to find that angle, storyline or something to get them hot. We past the well sign a big free agent and that will be it. They should have higher ratings than they do and attendance like last night should be a regular thing. Example Okada shouldn't had a match on Collison. They gave fans 24 hrs to go by tickets since they next day tapped it. Not sure the reason why they needed to tape Collison on a Thursday. Okada should have a video or something to make the match and have more hype. That would increased the interest you think. CM Punk drew because of a long layoff. The ride after what because the stuff was so good. Like MJF and Punk was some of the best angle worked. They need to find that kind of creativeness. What hurts AEW more is the bad rep from the backstage drama and ext.That may have turns fans away. Ok.. ok.. I have a question. Can you articulate literally at all how you or anyone else would know this? Brawl out and how CM Punk got fired is pretty clear. The whole "Fear for my life" stuff Tony put out there. While all that was backstage drama, it made it rounds public. Which non of this should ever been made as public as it was. So you look at the feedback on social media from it. It painted a dark cloud on AEW.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 16, 2024 12:44:25 GMT -5
WWE has had a much larger and darker cloud over it for two years and has had no impact on the popularity of the product. I just don't think those things matter as much as folks suspect it does.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 16, 2024 12:59:34 GMT -5
Look, if wrestling Twitter/Reddit/any other social media site told me the sky was blue I'd go outside and check. For every person that has a genuine opinion, you have five that have never watched the show and will never watch the show, but are just jumping on the bandwagon because it suits their brand of tribalism.
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Post by eJm on Mar 16, 2024 14:13:37 GMT -5
WWE has had a much larger and darker cloud over it for two years and has had no impact on the popularity of the product. I just don't think those things matter as much as folks suspect it does. One that’s hover above them for a while longer with people in charge, or formerly in charge, being named and I’d be shocked if more stuff doesn’t come out about the lawsuit come WrestleMania time, never mind later in the year. It still feels weird to me that a lot of pressure is being put on AEW after the Punk situation, one that a lot of people looked bad in but a lot of stuff has happened like it in wrestling history, when a some of the biggest WWE “stans” on Wrestling Twitter think it’s over because Vince is gone.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 16, 2024 15:17:09 GMT -5
WWE has had a much larger and darker cloud over it for two years and has had no impact on the popularity of the product. I just don't think those things matter as much as folks suspect it does. I believe that people who weren't watching AEW, or who are sour because CM Punk wasn't allowed to assault co-workers, will happily say "AEW is unprofessional so I won't watch it". But that doesn't mean it's losing fans, that means people who want to find something to shit on it for are pulling up an easy W by acting like AEW is the only company to have these problems ever. Like, I'll give a lot of the most unhinged WWE homers on twitter credit; even f***ing Gareth was disgusted by the Vince trafficking allegations and wanted him gone. But Vince came back eight months earlier and those people kept watching WWE even knowing what he had done and that his return was a hostile one. I don't buy that anyone's not giving AEW a chance because a fight between two talents over six months ago 'looks bad'
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 16, 2024 16:32:18 GMT -5
Ok.. ok.. I have a question. Can you articulate literally at all how you or anyone else would know this? Brawl out and how CM Punk got fired is pretty clear. The whole "Fear for my life" stuff Tony put out there. While all that was backstage drama, it made it rounds public. Which non of this should ever been made as public as it was. So you look at the feedback on social media from it. It painted a dark cloud on AEW. What demonstrative proof did we have that it affected them negatively in any way other than the alleged perception (which none of us know) of fans online? I just don’t see any of that stuff having the slightest effect on AEW’s viewership or their financial success (which we also don’t know). If there’s some metric that shows direct correlation then I’ll happily change my mind but I just don’t see it being anything someone can prove. I think a lot of us online fans have this idea that all wrestling fans live in our bubble but they don’t.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 16, 2024 16:52:11 GMT -5
There were definitely CM Punk tourists who only watched for him and who left when he was fired, but I don't see them being a significant enough number to permanently change the ratings to such a large degree.
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Post by ghost on Mar 16, 2024 17:18:09 GMT -5
WWE has had a much larger and darker cloud over it for two years and has had no impact on the popularity of the product. I just don't think those things matter as much as folks suspect it does. Agreed. I said it the moment the latest Vince stuff came out; fans will act outraged online, but the moment the next show starts, the ones attending the shows will be singing everyone's theme like they always do, and the people at home will be watching the product in the exact same way as before. Wrestling is not only a niche, but it has one of the most diehard fanbases in any genre. They won't stop watching because WWE and AEW are the only high profile wrestling companies that can feed their addictions in the US. So yes, people online probably chose sides with Punk and the Elite, but I doubt that had any impact on the people who watched. The same people likely would have watched (or not watched) regardless.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 16, 2024 19:36:14 GMT -5
I'm one of those checked out of watching week to week though I still keep up with results and will watch segments on YouTube etc. Consciously at least it has nothing to do with all the backstage stuff.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Mar 16, 2024 20:52:49 GMT -5
I'm one of those checked out of watching week to week though I still keep up with results and will watch segments on YouTube etc. Consciously at least it has nothing to do with all the backstage stuff. I’m the same way. I just don’t have time anymore to watch much wrestling period so my consumption is basically whatever I read here, and catch on AEW’s YouTube channel. I’ll have to admit that being that this forum is the only place I have discussions in, my perception of things have been colored in the past based off of stuff I’ve read here. I’ve had to watch certain things and forget what I saw here to make sure I was being objective to myself. That being said, zero percent of my enjoyment is affected by anything that happens behind the scenes, save for some kind of monstrous incident like Vince had in WWE. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences but I feel pretty comfortable in saying that basing your enjoyment off of things not on screen generally seems like a good way to make sure you never like the show.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 16, 2024 21:20:54 GMT -5
WWE has had a much larger and darker cloud over it for two years and has had no impact on the popularity of the product. I just don't think those things matter as much as folks suspect it does. Exactly. Like these ratings or how cold angles feel has less to do with CM Punk vs the Elite and more with putting second/third banana people in main event positions and how scatterbrain some of the booking choices (let's have Okada's first match..just randomly happen 3 days later on the B show for..reasons) can be.
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Post by r. on Mar 16, 2024 21:27:27 GMT -5
Almost 10 pages. You can do it!
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Post by J is Justice on Mar 16, 2024 21:28:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I stopped watching consistently, too, though I can't remember specifically why. Mercedes has brought me back, though.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 17, 2024 3:23:46 GMT -5
I've largely stopped watching but it's more due to a general lack of interest than anything. I generally enjoy AEW when I do watch it, I just generally don't have much desire to do so.
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