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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 28, 2024 18:53:08 GMT -5
The last thing he was involved in that anyone cared about was his bankruptcy hearing.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Mar 28, 2024 18:57:51 GMT -5
jokes aside i think this comes down to three things
1. no big storyline that the show revolves around, kinda going through the motions at the moment
2. i still don't like punk very much and i do like the young bucks gimmick but i am 10000000% there is a giant chunk of aew viewers who protest when they're on TV and immediately turn the channel, sometimes turning it back on. i don't think those viewers have been lost, i think they just don't like this shit/those people and you're going to lose some viewers who decide "nah i'm just not gonna watch the rest".
3. whether you like AEW or not, everyone knows the PPVs are where it is really at. they're in a spot where people clearly feel comfortable catching snippets of stuff on YT but pay up to see things actually move forward every few months
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Post by markymark on Mar 28, 2024 18:58:26 GMT -5
Saw this comment on reddit and this person is correct, AEW badly need that big angle that can carry the brand, like how MJF and Cole did last year until Cole broke his ankle
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Mar 28, 2024 18:58:55 GMT -5
I'm assuming it got beat by a bunch of NCAA games?
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Post by jm on Mar 28, 2024 18:59:40 GMT -5
Number of wrestling companies they helped to kill: Bischoff - 1, nearly 2 Tony Khan - 0 At least you tried.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 28, 2024 19:03:02 GMT -5
I'm assuming it got beat by a bunch of NCAA games? I think both tournaments were off on Wednesday. Maybe the NIT was on, but I don't see that being a ratings magnet
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 28, 2024 19:12:47 GMT -5
Saw this comment on reddit and this person is correct, AEW badly need that big angle that can carry the brand, like how MJF and Cole did last year until Cole broke his ankle
Bloodline, Hangman's rise, MJF/Cole, so much is down to the relationships between wrestlers. Not just in the main event either. Aew is pretty weak in that area at the moment. Ospreay is a face in a heel stable but there's nearly no interesting dynamic there. Could have easily had a segment where Will challenged Takeshita to top that*. Swerve being a face and ignoring most of his heel stable is weird too. They need to split them ASAP. Or if not at least do something to build some intrigue. It's the elephant in the room when largely building around three guys in those stables. The UK ruined some decent character work too. Parts of bcc are often absent without explanation. It all adds up to undermine emotional investment *unless I missed it, Triller's app has gone to shit so if I overshoot fast forwarding I don't go back.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 28, 2024 19:30:31 GMT -5
There is no really hot angle right now to grab people’s attention. There’s potential for some, but they need to run with it soon
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 19:40:21 GMT -5
But there are people who also argue WWE and AEW do not have a broad fan overlap, so like... which one is it? Is there an insane roughly 300K overlap of fans who currently are watching WWE over AEW, or are they very different fanbases who indulge in different wrestling products? Because it feels like people flip this argument to whatever's convenient to explain AEW's state. It’s a situation where two things are true. Every promotion with a unique style gets its own distinct fandom, and yet there’s still going to be TV viewers who- even if they have time to watch more than one show- will mainly want to focus their attention on just one company. I don't know if we can just definitively say "WWE's hot so they don't care about AEW", there's no discernable metric than people just flat out assuming this is true and this is the reason, when in reality it's such a wide potential bevy of reasons as to why this is happening I'm not saying it can't be some reason but to me to say "Wrestling's great right now so wrestling is down somewhere else" just feels... super off to me
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 19:41:15 GMT -5
This isn't the "own" you probably think it is.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 19:42:12 GMT -5
Saw this comment on reddit and this person is correct, AEW badly need that big angle that can carry the brand, like how MJF and Cole did last year until Cole broke his ankle
I would very much not like AEW to emergency book based of what a Reddit comment said.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 28, 2024 19:47:47 GMT -5
It’s a situation where two things are true. Every promotion with a unique style gets its own distinct fandom, and yet there’s still going to be TV viewers who- even if they have time to watch more than one show- will mainly want to focus their attention on just one company. I don't know if we can just definitively say "WWE's hot so they don't care about AEW", there's no discernable metric than people just flat out assuming this is true and this is the reason, when in reality it's such a wide potential bevy of reasons as to why this is happening I'm not saying it can't be some reason but to me to say "Wrestling's great right now so wrestling is down somewhere else" just feels... super off to me Meltzer has been pretty consistent in saying that it’s not a rising tide lifts all boats situation for wrestling and that typically when number 1 gets hot, number 2 goes down. And for wrestling business history, Meltzer would be the guy to listen to.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 28, 2024 19:50:02 GMT -5
That rating is so jarring it seems almost like there must have been a mistake. Lowest viewership since April 2021 and lowest demo since June 2020.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Mar 28, 2024 19:58:09 GMT -5
Mercedes needs to wrestle already. That's her forte.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 28, 2024 19:59:19 GMT -5
I don't know if we can just definitively say "WWE's hot so they don't care about AEW", there's no discernable metric than people just flat out assuming this is true and this is the reason, when in reality it's such a wide potential bevy of reasons as to why this is happening I'm not saying it can't be some reason but to me to say "Wrestling's great right now so wrestling is down somewhere else" just feels... super off to me Meltzer has been pretty consistent in saying that it’s not a rising tide lifts all boats situation for wrestling and that typically when number 1 gets hot, number 2 goes down. And for wrestling business history, Meltzer would be the guy to listen to. I don't buy it personally and there's a very small sample size in support of the argument on either side. Both WWF and WCW were hot from mid 97- late 98 before WCW creative dropped off a cliff. WWF and Crockett were both doing very well in the early-mid 80s.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 28, 2024 20:08:14 GMT -5
I don't know if we can just definitively say "WWE's hot so they don't care about AEW", there's no discernable metric than people just flat out assuming this is true and this is the reason, when in reality it's such a wide potential bevy of reasons as to why this is happening I'm not saying it can't be some reason but to me to say "Wrestling's great right now so wrestling is down somewhere else" just feels... super off to me Meltzer has been pretty consistent in saying that it’s not a rising tide lifts all boats situation for wrestling and that typically when number 1 gets hot, number 2 goes down. And for wrestling business history, Meltzer would be the guy to listen to. I mean history has shown that: WWF rose in the 80’s as the old territories were dying out. WCW got really hot at a time when WWF was in the pits. WWF got white hot in the AE while WCW was starting to collapse. AEW got hot at a time when WWE sucked. Etc.
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Post by schizo on Mar 28, 2024 20:18:54 GMT -5
Saw this comment on reddit and this person is correct, AEW badly need that big angle that can carry the brand, like how MJF and Cole did last year until Cole broke his ankle
I would very much not like AEW to emergency book based of what a Reddit comment said. I mean, the Reddit comment ain’t wrong though
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 20:24:45 GMT -5
I would very much not like AEW to emergency book based of what a Reddit comment said. I mean, the Reddit comment ain’t wrong though I'm not saying they don't need a big storyline at the top of the card for a hook (Even though Swerve vs Joe had been drawing well and the overrun drew here too), but I also am very in the belief that social media should not be listened to in the grand scheme when you're booking wrestling, especially when at large, the show is being praised lol
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 28, 2024 20:49:05 GMT -5
I’d rather they organically build to something like they have with the rise of Swerve than do any emergency booking.
Especially since they aren’t in an emergency situation. Regardless of what critics say.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Mar 28, 2024 20:59:23 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but it feels like every week the number goes down a cliff when the young bucks are on. They don’t. Their segments were some of the highest since they returned. That slot has always been the worst performing regardless.
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