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Post by Gerard Gerard on May 27, 2024 15:08:04 GMT -5
Generally time to jump ship when a producer devolves into content-mill churn to bait the algorithm. Understandable as a business move, but, yeah, off is the direction you can f*** if you think you're going to flood my feed with that stuff.
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Post by KingPooper on May 27, 2024 22:32:47 GMT -5
As someone who first started following CinemaSins when the videos had an average length of about 3-5 minutes, that unsubscribe was a long time coming. Eventually, the videos just became so long and pedantic that I didn't even want to see him beat up on the movies I genuinely disliked. This. The writing wasn't good enough to justify videos being that long. People click on those videos because they're a fun weekly novelty like Honest Trailers. It just felt like they were trying to monkey with the algorithm so they made the most money, which I get from a business standpoint, it completely killed what made the channel enjoyable in the first place, I liked the channel enough for a while to follow their podcast, they just all came across as miserable people. I stopped listening and last I heard it completely shut down.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 28, 2024 1:58:14 GMT -5
I stopped following this woman because she stopped making the videos I originally followed her for and started spamming YouTube shorts with a character she created for a joke that seems to have taken off. She finally uploaded a proper video and it’s some independent series of several episodes of that character
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Post by G✇JI☈A on May 28, 2024 6:59:35 GMT -5
Slopes Games Room has been rubbing me up the wrong way recently, that I gave up on his videos
He does those “History of” game videos. And I might be unfairly comparing him to the great “Gaming Historian”. But Slopes history video to me just sounds like like he just reading stuff off of Wikipedia and/or the back of the game box when he does his, while GH obviously takes a lot of time on his videos and very well researched.
I think the final straw with Mr Slopes he did a video and which he stopped every few minutes to shill a Kool-Aid like product. It was Atari branded fruit drink mix.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on May 28, 2024 7:44:50 GMT -5
Generally time to jump ship when a producer devolves into content-mill churn to bait the algorithm. Understandable as a business move, but, yeah, off is the direction you can f*** if you think you're going to flood my feed with that stuff. I'm not even convinced it's that good a business move. You're alientating your established audience for the sake of one who's only interested in trendy topics. Retention is going to be horrible. On top of that, as much as people say clickbait and SEO-based algo-slop works, I'm not convinced it does. If you look at the numbers they pull, most content mills are actually really low and fail to capture an audience, it's just that people only see the big ones and assume that's the majority, which as far as I can tell is absolutely not the case. Of course if everyone follows the same trend, some of them are bound to be successful eventually, but you can't attribute that success to the trend if 90% of channels who try it end up failing. And that's not even getting into how heavily botted content farm views are, so even the supposedly successful ones are dubious in my view. On top of that, chasing algorithms is actually far more risky because YouTube is infamous for randomly changing its rules and algorithms without warning or explaination, so if you banked on one trend and it suddenly disappears, you're shit out of luck, son. Channels that retain a smaller but more dedicated audience, usually by covering more obscure topics that they are genuinely passionate about, tend to enjoy far more success and financial stability as far as I can tell, especially if they do the smart thing and rely more on crowdfunding through Patreon, Ko-Fi, PayPal, etc... than on monetizing the videos directly. A good example of that is Ashens, who has been sticking things on a brown sofa in order to discuss them for nearly 20 years now and is still going strong, whereas I have seen so many content farms die in the meantime.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 28, 2024 8:31:40 GMT -5
The Completionist. My Grandad had dementia. f*** that guy. Yeah... in my case I was kinda fading out from him. where I wasn't clicking on videos every week but at this point I don't want to be reminded of him
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Post by Soultastic on May 28, 2024 8:47:38 GMT -5
I was into Internet Historian until the plagiarism.
Also Completionist for sure. I couldn't even stomach 10 seconds of his "response".
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 28, 2024 9:00:04 GMT -5
Oddly, I stick with Doug and Brad, as there's still topics that interest/entertain me.
GlitterAndLazers I'm on again, off again with. As I got an unexplained block by her on FB and IG. I mean, I like Anna and her personality, but I have no clue what I did. Miss Jemima is a better plus size fashion vlog anyway.
Jim Cornette because he can get a bit too much depending on the topic. Better for me to pick and choose.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 28, 2024 14:22:50 GMT -5
Oddly, I stick with Doug and Brad, as there's still topics that interest/entertain me. GlitterAndLazers I'm on again, off again with. As I got an unexplained block by her on FB and IG. I mean, I like Anna and her personality, but I have no clue what I did. Miss Jemima is a better plus size fashion vlog anyway. Jim Cornette because he can get a bit too much depending on the topic. Better for me to pick and choose. I still watch Brad because his content genuinely interests me and is still at least funny. But dude seems like a bit of a wad IRL.
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Post by wildojinx on May 28, 2024 14:26:34 GMT -5
I still watch Brad because his content genuinely interests me and is still at least funny. But dude seems like a bit of a wad IRL. The only Brad videos I watch now are his retrospectives of a certain year in film, those are pretty interesting.
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Post by Kalmia on May 28, 2024 15:30:44 GMT -5
I only care about the content and not the YouTubers themselves, so as soon as it becomes more about the personality and less about the content, I'm out. I don't care about your lengthy intros or your egos, just give me the good stuff.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 28, 2024 16:30:16 GMT -5
Generally time to jump ship when a producer devolves into content-mill churn to bait the algorithm. Understandable as a business move, but, yeah, off is the direction you can f*** if you think you're going to flood my feed with that stuff. I'm not even convinced it's that good a business move. You're alientating your established audience for the sake of one who's only interested in trendy topics. Retention is going to be horrible. On top of that, as much as people say clickbait and SEO-based algo-slop works, I'm not convinced it does. If you look at the numbers they pull, most content mills are actually really low and fail to capture an audience, it's just that people only see the big ones and assume that's the majority, which as far as I can tell is absolutely not the case. Of course if everyone follows the same trend, some of them are bound to be successful eventually, but you can't attribute that success to the trend if 90% of channels who try it end up failing. And that's not even getting into how heavily botted content farm views are, so even the supposedly successful ones are dubious in my view. On top of that, chasing algorithms is actually far more risky because YouTube is infamous for randomly changing its rules and algorithms without warning or explaination, so if you banked on one trend and it suddenly disappears, you're shit out of luck, son. Channels that retain a smaller but more dedicated audience, usually by covering more obscure topics that they are genuinely passionate about, tend to enjoy far more success and financial stability as far as I can tell, especially if they do the smart thing and rely more on crowdfunding through Patreon, Ko-Fi, PayPal, etc... than on monetizing the videos directly. A good example of that is Ashens, who has been sticking things on a brown sofa in order to discuss them for nearly 20 years now and is still going strong, whereas I have seen so many content farms die in the meantime. It's such a double edged sword when it becomes your livelihood. Finn McKenty has complained pretty loudly in his last few streams on his second channel that he's basically stuck making the same 5 or 6 videos about nu metal over and over again because when he tries to do anything else nobody watches it. When you've got a young family and the algorithm basically punishes you for trying to go outside your box you end up making a lot of creatively compromising decisions. And at least he's honest about it which I respect the hell out of.
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Post by unc40 on May 30, 2024 18:24:53 GMT -5
Youtubers who create a rivalry with other Youtubers. If you want to have a solid YouTube channel than do the work yourself and not ride another Youtuber's coattails by starting a feud with him so you can get views yourself.
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Post by KingPooper on May 30, 2024 20:27:45 GMT -5
I stopped following this woman because she stopped making the videos I originally followed her for and started spamming YouTube shorts with a character she created for a joke that seems to have taken off. She finally uploaded a proper video and it’s some independent series of several episodes of that character This has killed a few channels for me is terrible skits and characters that have been shoehorned in every video. I give up after a while. I came for amusing movie recaps not some skit that feels it was written by a seven year old While I’m glad channels find something their fans enjoy, it also makes them completely unwatchable by new viewers that don’t get the joke or the reference from 20 videos ago. I’ve checked out plenty channels where I can’t even make it through a video of a subject I enjoy, because of all the nonsense. Just get to review also PS I don’t need a VPN stop trying to sell he one.
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Post by KingPooper on May 30, 2024 20:46:55 GMT -5
I stoped watching wrestling with wregret. Brian was one of my favorite wrestling YouTubers, but after a while he just got a bit full of himself. His AEW takes always felt like he was trying to get a job there. J. Biggs was a terrible cohost and it sounds like an awful person, but Brian went full scorched earth on him. Then did pretty much the same thing with Gentlemen Jarvis for less. I’m all for positive change in the world, and people should be called out for saying and doing horrible things. But it just came off a big insincere as two days later he’s uploading videos gushing over Benoit matches. I get you can separate the art from the artist, but it just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by random420 on May 30, 2024 21:45:54 GMT -5
Slopes Games Room has been rubbing me up the wrong way recently, that I gave up on his videos He does those “History of” game videos. And I might be unfairly comparing him to the great “Gaming Historian”. But Slopes history video to me just sounds like like he just reading stuff off of Wikipedia and/or the back of the game box when he does his, while GH obviously takes a lot of time on his videos and very well researched. I think the final straw with Mr Slopes he did a video and which he stopped every few minutes to shill a Kool-Aid like product. It was Atari branded fruit drink mix. For me, it was when he decided to drink the Amico koolaid and "interview" Tommy Tallarico for 4 hours despite the fact at the time, there was enough evidence proving that Amico was a scam but yet Slopes decided to make an ass of himself anyways.
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Post by thechase on May 31, 2024 0:05:45 GMT -5
Wrestletalk
I'm a Punk flip-flopper, times I like him, times I don't, but Ollie's continuous fanaticism for the guy gets on my nerves.
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Post by schma on May 31, 2024 0:40:37 GMT -5
I'm in Canada and occasionally I will get stuff in my feed that I click on and get 'this content is not available in your country.' That's generally my sign to unsubscribe.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 31, 2024 3:01:39 GMT -5
I stoped watching wrestling with wregret. Brian was one of my favorite wrestling YouTubers, but after a while he just got a bit full of himself. His AEW takes always felt like he was trying to get a job there. J. Biggs was a terrible cohost and it sounds like an awful person, but Brian went full scorched earth on him. Then did pretty much the same thing with Gentlemen Jarvis for less. I’m all for positive change in the world, and people should be called out for saying and doing horrible things. But it just came off a big insincere as two days later he’s uploading videos gushing over Benoit matches. I get you can separate the art from the artist, but it just rubbed me the wrong way. I've never understood this 'he's trying to get a job at AEW' take from people. He's been plenty critical of them when he does shit he doesn't like. He quite often dislikes stuff of theirs that I did like. And he gets just as much criticism from people accusing him of being a WWE fanboy when he praises one of their shows. And praising the matches of a dead murderer is radically different from actively working with a pervert like Biggs. If he didn't cover Benoit matches in his reviews, people would flood his comment section with complaints, and if he doesn't cover shows with Benoit on at all, that means he basically has to never cover about two decades' worth of wrestling including its arguable high water mark in pop culture.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 31, 2024 4:28:12 GMT -5
ContraPoints when she made that swipe that "her ex copied her entire career and now has more subscribers"
Hey Natalie, try putting out more than one video a year then your channel might actually do as well as Abigail's.
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