Odyssey Jones has been FIRED (Updated 9/3, Page 6)

[Mozenrath]

Sept 3, 2024 21:57:39 GMT -5 Main Eventer said:

Must have been something really bad to get rid of him this fast.

I remember when Rich Swann committed domestic violence while employed by WWE. He did it in public with at least one witness and WWE still waited 2 months before releasing him.

Even then, he requested his release. They likely didn't fire him immediately due to Rich's wife being reluctant to press charges, but yeah, it suggests they either were particularly disturbed by what they do already know, or they are extra cautious with the ongoing Vince issues, along with the Netflix documentary, and really do not want or need someone bringing that kind of scrutiny to the company at the moment, even if they aren't at all connected to his alleged actions, probably.

[Mozenrath]

Sept 3, 2024 21:03:57 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

What if the allegations are untrue and he is found innocent in a court of law? Should he be blackballed anyway or given an apology and second chance?

It'd depend on the situation. If this did go to court and there were revelations that fully exonerated him, that'd be received differently than "not enough evidence" and it just doesn't go to a conviction. Additionally, plenty of wrestlers have continued their career in some capacity after arrests or even prison sentences. It's too early to really know, especially given we don't know anything concrete about what he's even being accused of here.

[ToyfareMark]

Right after he got an event card too.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Sept 3, 2024 13:42:09 GMT -5 tagteammatchplaya said:

Sept 3, 2024 13:31:46 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Did they do the same thing with Rich Swann? He also had DV allegations, but I thought I remembered they announced his release instead of quietly nuking the guy from existence.

He was released about a month after i believe, but his profile is in the alumni section on WWE's website, Odyssey's is completely gone

they suspended Swann as soon as it came out, he was released months later

That's their usual MO... to flat out nuke the guy the evidence must be like "attacked them in front of HHH" level of blatant.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Oh, okay.

Bye forever!

[Fade]

Sept 3, 2024 23:24:10 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Sept 3, 2024 21:57:39 GMT -5 Main Eventer said:

Must have been something really bad to get rid of him this fast.

I remember when Rich Swann committed domestic violence while employed by WWE. He did it in public with at least one witness and WWE still waited 2 months before releasing him.

Even then, he requested his release. They likely didn't fire him immediately due to Rich's wife being reluctant to press charges, but yeah, it suggests they either were particularly disturbed by what they do already know, or they are extra cautious with the ongoing Vince issues, along with the Netflix documentary, and really do not want or need someone bringing that kind of scrutiny to the company at the moment, even if they aren't at all connected to his alleged actions, probably.

Prbly it, they’re taking no chances. But they need to be vetting better.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Sept 4, 2024 1:29:55 GMT -5 Fade said:

Sept 3, 2024 23:24:10 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Even then, he requested his release. They likely didn't fire him immediately due to Rich's wife being reluctant to press charges, but yeah, it suggests they either were particularly disturbed by what they do already know, or they are extra cautious with the ongoing Vince issues, along with the Netflix documentary, and really do not want or need someone bringing that kind of scrutiny to the company at the moment, even if they aren't at all connected to his alleged actions, probably.

Prbly it, they’re taking no chances. But they need to be vetting better.

the thing is they have a stated Company Policy when it comes to things like this, of suspend while the investigation is ongoing. Fire if found guilty (or if they ask for their release to sort their shit out)

Blatantly going against policy like this means they have like irrefutable proof or he admitted to it... or they were questioned by the police with no warning from him.

Especially since he was in the middle of a main storyline on television... AND they scrubbed the dude from existence.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Galaxy better, f***face

[Talent Name]

The only person I've ever heard of recently to get fired this quickly for something was Mr. Consensual Penis

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 4, 2024 4:11:27 GMT -5 Talent Name said:

The only person I've ever heard of recently to get fired this quickly for something was Mr. Consensual Penis

And Enzo lied about the details to WWE. If he hadn't tried to keep it quiet and actively tried to work with them, good chance he was over enough for them to keep him under contract after a suspension or something

Instead he dumbassed himself out of it and wrote one of the dumbest raps of all time and has been damn near irrelevant ever since lol

[msc]

This guy sounds like a multipurpose shithead who won't be missed tbh. I hope his victim/s is ok.

[polarbearpete]

Sept 3, 2024 22:17:23 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

What exactly did that twitter link say? I figure whatever he did was a big deal, but how come there hasn’t been an arrest yet and wwe is canning him without that happening?

The standard for firing should be well below the standard for getting a domestic abuse criminal charge.

[mc74]

Never wanted to see him again after the transphobic crap. Good f***ing riddance to that human sack of shit. He can rot.

[dumpstermatchblues]

Sept 3, 2024 21:51:17 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Sept 3, 2024 21:29:09 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

Don't mind me I am just operating on the absurd premise that being accused does not equal guilt, even if it feels cathartic to condemn someone to a guilty verdict because they were accused.

And yet you think Vince McMahon is guilty while it's also just an accusation and he hasn't been criminally indicted (yet). Maybe check your own hypocrisy instead of sitting on a high horse about "innocent until proven guilty."

With Vince there is evidence out there for the viewing.

Wit odyssey it's just someone said something and he's gone.

Might want to chill on the accusation in a mirror.

[dumpstermatchblues]

Sept 3, 2024 21:37:15 GMT -5 khali said:

Sept 3, 2024 21:29:09 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

Don't mind me I am just operating on the absurd premise that being accused does not equal guilt, even if it feels cathartic to condemn someone to a guilty verdict because they were accused.

Look, imma be real here. This whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing that gets thrown out any time someone is hit with an accusation is BS. I’m not a court of law of and neither is WWE. I don’t need to wait for a legal case to hit to determine if I personally think someone is “guilty.” And neither does WWE or any other employer.

All the info we have right now is that WWE decided to fire the guy outright. That to me as a person tells me it just be pretty serious and is enough for me to believe he did something wrong. That seems a lot more likely to me than some minuscule scenario where Odyssey Jones has been falsely accused, because in the real world that’s not a thing that happens very often.

I hear y'all, but Ima just civilly have to go against the mob consensus for now.

I consider Vince and Odyssey both innocent until proven guilty.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Sept 4, 2024 9:23:09 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

Sept 3, 2024 21:51:17 GMT -5 The Captain said:

And yet you think Vince McMahon is guilty while it's also just an accusation and he hasn't been criminally indicted (yet). Maybe check your own hypocrisy instead of sitting on a high horse about "innocent until proven guilty."

With Vince there is evidence out there for the viewing.

Wit odyssey it's just someone said something and he's gone.

Might want to chill on the accusation in a mirror.

I think it's more than "someone said something." WWE wouldn't just fire a guy in the midst of a storyline unless they had concrete evidence that Odyssey did something.

[Allie Kitsune]

Sept 4, 2024 9:34:18 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Sept 4, 2024 9:23:09 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

With Vince there is evidence out there for the viewing.

Wit odyssey it's just someone said something and he's gone.

Might want to chill on the accusation in a mirror.

I think it's more than "someone said something." WWE wouldn't just fire a guy in the midst of a storyline unless they had concrete evidence that Odyssey did something.

Especially a company like WWE, which has never given a shit about being on the correct side of social order.

[dumpstermatchblues]

Sept 4, 2024 9:34:18 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Sept 4, 2024 9:23:09 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

With Vince there is evidence out there for the viewing.

Wit odyssey it's just someone said something and he's gone.

Might want to chill on the accusation in a mirror.

I think it's more than "someone said something." WWE wouldn't just fire a guy in the midst of a storyline unless they had concrete evidence that Odyssey did something.

Yeah, that's a good point. Whole thing has me confused. I think I'm just going to take a step back and hope justice is served, whole thing got me worked up and confused trying to not treat them as guilty right right away. Shit be pulling on my heart strings .

[thechase]

Sept 4, 2024 9:26:10 GMT -5 dumpstermatchblues said:

Sept 3, 2024 21:37:15 GMT -5 khali said:

Look, imma be real here. This whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing that gets thrown out any time someone is hit with an accusation is BS. I’m not a court of law of and neither is WWE. I don’t need to wait for a legal case to hit to determine if I personally think someone is “guilty.” And neither does WWE or any other employer.

All the info we have right now is that WWE decided to fire the guy outright. That to me as a person tells me it just be pretty serious and is enough for me to believe he did something wrong. That seems a lot more likely to me than some minuscule scenario where Odyssey Jones has been falsely accused, because in the real world that’s not a thing that happens very often.

I hear y'all, but Ima just civilly have to go against the mob consensus for now.

I consider Vince and Odyssey both innocent until proven guilty.

Oh get off

Vince is guilty of plenty else.

[cassonova]

I'm cranky so I'm throwing it out there.

There tends to be a mob mentality for DV and SA because there is a comically low rate for these crimes to even lead to arrest, let alone a conviction.

Osyss-see-ya has already shown himself to be a not great person, and WWE nuking him means there may be more than "just allegations". Unfortunately, even if those "more than just allegations" exist, the odds say there won't be criminal charges.