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Post by Error on Jan 21, 2007 0:51:52 GMT -5
And that's cool. I do that a lot myself. But I'm still gonna go ape**** the next time I hear that glass shatter ;D I'd love Austin back, but I just want him to help give someone the rub while he's around. Otherwise, it's a bit of a waste IMO I'll agree with that.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 0:53:42 GMT -5
I'd love Austin back, but I just want him to help give someone the rub while he's around. Otherwise, it's a bit of a waste IMO I'll agree with that. Austin could get someone over as a mega face by association if done right. (Carlito?)
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Post by EZ: Broken Bae on Jan 21, 2007 0:54:59 GMT -5
And that's cool. I do that a lot myself. But I'm still gonna go ape**** the next time I hear that glass shatter ;D I'd love Austin back, but I just want him to help give someone the rub while he's around. Otherwise, it's a bit of a waste IMO Personally, I don't mind them not coming back to give someone a rub as long as they're fighting someone established or an old nemesis, like Austin/Rock at WM or HBK/Hogan at Summerslam. If they're going up against someone up and coming, then they probably should give them the rub ( and rub doesn't always mean jobbing).
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 0:59:26 GMT -5
I'd love Austin back, but I just want him to help give someone the rub while he's around. Otherwise, it's a bit of a waste IMO Personally, I don't mind them not coming back to give someone a rub as long as they're fighting someone established or an old nemesis, like Austin/Rock at WM or HBK/Hogan at Summerslam. If they're going up against someone up and coming, then they probably should give them the rub ( and rub doesn't always mean jobbing). I know what you're saying. I just dont wanna see Austin stunning Umaga and rated RKO effortlessly every week, turning them into fodder.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 21, 2007 1:14:45 GMT -5
If Austin comes back I don't think he'd bury anybody, hell oftentimes he wouldn't do certain matches because they wouldn't be impactful outside of PPVs, but wasn't opposed to doing the job.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 1:17:13 GMT -5
If Austin comes back I don't think he'd bury anybody, hell oftentimes he wouldn't do certain matches because they wouldn't be impactful outside of PPVs, but wasn't opposed to doing the job. I was more referring to his Sherrif/GM stuff where he'd beat up heels every week without breaking a sweat. It kinda made them look weak when a guy with an admittedly bad neck (even storyline wise this is a known fact) can handle current guys
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Post by Rorschach on Jan 21, 2007 2:17:00 GMT -5
Austin could get someone over as a mega face by association if done right. (Carlito?) This is the second time that's been mentioned, and I just want to say that it sounds like a GREAT idea. Which means it'll never happen. I think Austin could really get Carlito back on track......from giving him tips on how to irritate Vince, to even helping Carlito rid himself of the disease known as Torrie. And the best thing is, Carlito would gain so much from this, even after Austin left. Granted, not as much as he would being the Rock's protege, (look what it did for Mick Foley!) but still. And Austin being an equalizer for HBK.....would be cool, but then again, you'd just be saddling Shawn with another injured partner.
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Post by dennisisevil on Jan 21, 2007 2:39:43 GMT -5
I don't blame Austin for walking out; the booking for him was becoming atrocious, with a surefire "fans will actually care" feud with Eddie, and just because he told the cold truth, he was booked to lose to some unfamiliar nobody who had only been on TV for about three months. There is no way that Lesnar was ready mentally or as a character to go over Stone Cold Steve Austin in June 2002. I agree with you what would be the point of having him JOB to Coach clean or not and for what? A guy who's a draw like him does not need to be putting over the ring announcers. Funny how when Batista got involved the finish was magically changed. HMMMMMMMM! Jobbing him to Lesnar with Lesnar only being on TV about 3 months af the time would have been just as stuipid. Sadly WWE took the Goldberg superman push route on Lesnar anyway and we all know how that panned out. Even had Austin laid down for him the end result would still be the same. They gave Lesnar too much too fast and it got stale. As for all you little workrate queens and Benoit jocksniffers don't worry I'm sure with Austin's bad neck he'll just be a referee.
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Post by darthpipes on Jan 21, 2007 2:51:50 GMT -5
I don't blame Austin for not wanting to job the Coach. Why should he have to lose to a non-wrestler. Not to mention the fact that the E didn't tell him he was going to lose until just prior to the PPV. They hid this from Austin just so they could get him back on TV. So it serves them right.
Besides...it didn't make much sense as they were trying to build to an Austin/Hogan Wrestlemania match. How do you build that match when Austin is jobbing to a non-wrestler like Coach while Hogan is beating Shawn Michaels clean? It makes no sense.
As for Austin returning to TV...at least it should be entertaining. I hope it's not to bury other wrestlers but the WWE has been doing a good job of that lately. Just ask CM Punk.
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Post by mainsupreme on Jan 21, 2007 5:45:02 GMT -5
Please just stun Cena and drink beer
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Post by Cousin Judge on Jan 21, 2007 7:11:58 GMT -5
Austin's physical state and his ego means that he will not do anything other than bury someone. It's the only thing he can do now. Just look at his AWFUL last appearance on WWE TV with his nineteen hour promo marathon with the McMahons. Unlike Hogan, Austin cannot be put into a programe. Say what you like about Hogan but at least when he's on Raw it's as part as a build-up to a meaningful feud, with Austin it's just......"Hi remember me?". A bit like when Jimmy Snuka got introduced at Wrestlemania 4 only to come through the curtain, wave and piss off backstage again for no aparent reason whatsoever. It's the same with Austin these days.
Facts are that Austin's relevence to the product nose-dived after his heel turn in 2001 and he hasn't done much to correct that since. Whereas little kids can mark out to Hogan as they've seen him recently through both his matches and occasional appearances on the TV shows as well as his 'reality' television show, with Austin unless they've been paying VERY close attention during the last four years, they're not really going to know or care who he is. It's a sad thing to say but IMO it's true.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 21, 2007 8:28:04 GMT -5
I don't blame Austin for walking out; the booking for him was becoming atrocious, with a surefire "fans will actually care" feud with Eddie, and just because he told the cold truth, he was booked to lose to some unfamiliar nobody who had only been on TV for about three months. There is no way that Lesnar was ready mentally or as a character to go over Stone Cold Steve Austin in June 2002. I agree with you what would be the point of having him JOB to Coach clean or not and for what? A guy who's a draw like him does not need to be putting over the ring announcers. Funny how when Batista got involved the finish was magically changed. HMMMMMMMM! Jobbing him to Lesnar with Lesnar only being on TV about 3 months af the time would have been just as stuipid. Sadly WWE took the Goldberg superman push route on Lesnar anyway and we all know how that panned out. Even had Austin laid down for him the end result would still be the same. They gave Lesnar too much too fast and it got stale. As for all you little workrate queens and Benoit jocksniffers don't worry I'm sure with Austin's bad neck he'll just be a referee. Naturally the finish changed, it was the World Champion in there with Coach, at the last minute and I'm sure in the context of the storyline it wouldn't have made sense for him to lose, unlike Austin. At the time in 02, it's not like everyone knew Lesnar would be leaving in 04 to try his luck in football, if they did I'm sure it would've gone down a lot differently, still whether you like it or not, Austin should've done his job, it wouldn't have hurt him. And as for the "workrate queens" and "jocksniffers", I'm not a big fan of "workrate" myself, and in Austin's current state I don't see him doing much, so it's good that he'll be a referee or whatever. Stunners for everyone, and then he's out of there.
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Post by ronsimmons on Jan 21, 2007 8:56:04 GMT -5
They oughta have him job to Orton. Piss off.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 21, 2007 9:12:31 GMT -5
Because Austin never hindered anyone. I invite you to consider Kane's one day reign, Triple H in the summer of 99, and Jeff Jarret , also in '99 before saying that. Yeah Triple H sure has suffered from that fateful day back in 99. Wonder whatever became of that guy.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 10:23:29 GMT -5
I invite you to consider Kane's one day reign, Triple H in the summer of 99, and Jeff Jarret , also in '99 before saying that. Yeah Triple H sure has suffered from that fateful day back in 99. Wonder whatever became of that guy. Austin refused to put him over at Summerslam for no reason whatsoever. Not only that, but he wrestled one singles match with Triple H after that, and didnt work with the guy again until after the Rock and Mick Foley killed themselves to get the guy over as the top heel. My point was that Austin pulled a dickhead move, but because it's Austin, its totally ok in the eyes of people here. Austin can refuse to job to whomever he wants and walk out when he sees fit, but if HHH, Michaels or Hogan look at someone the wrong way, it's time for a public crucifiction. I just think there's a little bit of hypocracy here.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 21, 2007 10:35:16 GMT -5
Austin did end up putting HHH over at No Mercy in October of 99.
I do agree if it were others like Trips or maybe Cena, that people would be outraged if they walked out, but it seems it's ok for Austin to do it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 10:43:30 GMT -5
Austin did end up putting HHH over at No Mercy in October of 99. I do agree if it were others like Trips or maybe Cena, that people would be outraged if they walked out, but it seems it's ok for Austin to do it. I honestly had forgotten about that. Was it clean?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 21, 2007 10:58:20 GMT -5
Austin did end up putting HHH over at No Mercy in October of 99. I do agree if it were others like Trips or maybe Cena, that people would be outraged if they walked out, but it seems it's ok for Austin to do it. I honestly had forgotten about that. Was it clean? Nah, it wasn't clean, but as Trips was the heel, he shouldn't have beat him clean anyways. Rock accidentally hit Austin and this was to lead to the 3-way at Survivor Series that didn't happen because Austin had to go for surgery.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 21, 2007 11:01:47 GMT -5
Austin is completely useless.
Let's have him come out and stun Rated RKO, that'll put butts in the seats!
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2007 11:08:33 GMT -5
I honestly had forgotten about that. Was it clean? Nah, it wasn't clean, but as Trips was the heel, he shouldn't have beat him clean anyways. Rock accidentally hit Austin and this was to lead to the 3-way at Survivor Series that didn't happen because Austin had to go for surgery. Ah yes, I remember that now.
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