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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 8, 2006 5:11:35 GMT -5
How a GM will make any match he wants on Raw or Smackdown, but then certain matches need a contract signing. If Teddy Long makes a wrestler face THE UNDER-TAKER, and he doesn't want to. Why doesn't he just refuse to sign the contract for the match? Well, this is my way of looking at it, with the obvious "suspension of disbelief"... As part of a show, you are contracted to be in the building and be used at the GM's discresion. The PPV contract signings are a formal assurance of the match and stipulations on the brands "big money" shows. Now, why HBK can sign a contract meant for HHH and Benoit...that I don't get.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 8, 2006 5:16:46 GMT -5
Also how on every Raw or Smackdown, you'll see at least one foot on the ropes or holding the tights pin. A guy can be hit by 5 finishers , 10 chair shots, but at the end of it all, it's his underwear being pulled that causes him to lose. How does pulling the tights help you pin a guy anyway? It doesn't look like to me there is much leverage added. In fact, it looks like sometimes the guy could easily kick out, but because the guy has his tights, he'd kick OUT OF HIS TIGHTS. Is fear of being naked what keeps the guys down? Feet in the ropes I can understand (more or all of your weight is now above the guy you are pinning).
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Post by Sparvid on Dec 8, 2006 9:13:59 GMT -5
The evil boss role. I have always hated it. It just never made much sense that he wouldn't fire the person he was mad at. But didn't Vince fire Austin at one point? As many others have mentioned.........the total lack of storyline continuity. Hardys vs. MNM is a prime example. For no apparent reason, A raw guy teams up with a smackdown guy. They invade ECW and issue an open challenge. This challenge is answered by another Raw guy and a smackdown guy (Shouldn't two ECW wrestlers be answering a challenge being issued by two ECW invaders to fight on an ECW PPV?) who was not only (kayfabe) FIRED six months ago, but was last seen being beaten like a dog by the guy he's now teaming up with! Shouldn't they be FEUDING? So we've got brothers from two different shows taking on ex-teammates from two different shows fighting on a PPV for a third show for no reason..............I'll stop now, my head is hurting. My "favorite" part of the reunited MNM: "We're reuniting for One Night Only at the ECW PPV! And the Smackdown before that. And the Raw after..."
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Dalek
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 8, 2006 9:26:28 GMT -5
Every match Stipulation is always the most Dangerous ever: HIAC, Elimination Chamber, Singapore Cane Match, Bra and Panties, Last Man Standing, First Blood, The list goes on.
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Post by ray3100 on Dec 8, 2006 9:28:37 GMT -5
The evil boss role. I have always hated it. It just never made much sense that he wouldn't fire the person he was mad at. But didn't Vince fire Austin at one point? But he kept being "forced" to bring him back. And that never made much sense either.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Dec 8, 2006 10:23:07 GMT -5
After a ref bump, a wrestler will STILL try for a pinfall. Doesn't even think to drag the ref to the general vicinity of the action.
This one has always puzzled me.
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sabu
Don Corleone
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Post by sabu on Dec 8, 2006 11:59:34 GMT -5
Vince McMahon and Vince Russo
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Post by MGH on Dec 8, 2006 12:02:13 GMT -5
I love this thread. Also, even though this is an obvious one that everyone knows, I thought I'd point it out because it hasn't shown up in this thread yet: If a wrestler has a sigmove or a finish that involves their opponent being in a specific, sometimes awkward position in order to set the move up, the opponent ALWAYS ends up there. 619, Bronco Buster, any others? That stupid gut kick thing Holly used to do... I know there are but can't think of them off the top of my head. The 619 was the absolute worst. Rey would head scissor a guy and he'd fall to his knees and sometimes have to lunge towards the ropes. Or he'd drop kick someone and they would spin around and drop into the ropes. Wonder why that never happens for anyone else? Does Rey have it down to a science or what?
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Post by odanobunaga on Dec 8, 2006 12:04:18 GMT -5
Rey Misterio is magical, just like the Undertaker.
Right?
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Post by mason on Dec 8, 2006 12:20:21 GMT -5
The fact that you could see someone will interupt a promo a mile away. For example, Vince would go "And another thing..." and DX's music would play. How predictable is that?
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Dec 8, 2006 15:09:24 GMT -5
I gotta say, I've always liked the predictable MUSIC STARTS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROMO thing. I think that's really an integral part of wrestling.
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Post by Ultimate Reality on Dec 8, 2006 15:24:33 GMT -5
When the challenger is introduced after the champion When the referee hits the mat as he's going down to do a two count...and it ends up making it sound like a three count.
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Post by -Lithium- on Dec 8, 2006 15:41:01 GMT -5
The fact that tights wouldnt actually give you anymore leverage in a roll up, but they do in wrestling. Not cool...
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Dec 8, 2006 16:38:03 GMT -5
The fact that tights wouldnt actually give you anymore leverage in a roll up, but they do in wrestling. Not cool... See, that's what I was saying in my post earlier. All pulling the tights does is make it so if you kick out, you may be kicking out of your tights.
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Post by therob on Dec 8, 2006 16:45:45 GMT -5
The fact that tights wouldnt actually give you anymore leverage in a roll up, but they do in wrestling. Not cool... See, that's what I was saying in my post earlier. All pulling the tights does is make it so if you kick out, you may be kicking out of your tights. Wouldn't it make more sense to pull the tights down and not up (I hope you understand what I mean)
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 8, 2006 16:48:06 GMT -5
Intentional DQs to retain championships, especially when it's from managers. Something about those always bugged me.
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Post by messiahtype on Jan 17, 2007 23:25:28 GMT -5
it's been a long time. but thanks for all the great replies
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 17, 2007 23:27:22 GMT -5
Not cynching up on submission holds. When Jericho stopped doing the Walls of Jericho at an elevated position, it looked far too painless for me to buy into.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 0:44:45 GMT -5
Weapons aren't near as powerful in NO DQ matches.
If you get hit with a weapon in a normal match once, there's a good chance it'll lose you the match.
If you get hit with a weapon several times in a No DQ match, you'll stumble...then punch the guy back.
Also finishing moves aren't as powerful on major PPVs, they're much easier to kick out of then. =P
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Post by carter 15 on Jan 18, 2007 1:07:46 GMT -5
When the crowd are dead for matches or wrestlers that i really like, i hate how every cruiser match completely kills the crowd. And people that are completely anal about continuity, things like forgetting or changing things during the same storyline is annoying i agree. But things like the Kane post earlier is pretty silly, i mean it was 10 years ago. Imagine the IWC around Stone Colds debut, "omg, he was stunning steve austin, he was just a ringmaster and now we're suppose to believe his a redneck beer drinking bad ass rebel?? Great job WWF/Vince "
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