Am I the only one who still calls ECW "ECW"

[hollywood]

I always thought RD Reynolds' description was the best: "that...THING...on Sci Fi."

[Garcia Vega]

I didn't bother reading the thread, but I agree, "WWECW" is really lame. Really, it's not clever at all. It is up there with "Phone" and other message board phrases that are borderline embarrassing.

[Big DSR Energy]

Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

I am also not a Mr. Kennedy fan. HIGH FIVE!

*puts hand up in the air*

[Hellsing920]

dsr said:

hellsing920 said:

I still call it ECW. Anyone who calls it WWECW is just what jerk smarks call it to belittle it because it's not what they remember.

Well, guess what, ECW will never be what it used to be. Never. Even if Paul E. comes back and brings Raven, Douglas, New Jack, and the rest of the well known ECW names, it will still never be like the original ECW. So quit yer complain and/or rude femalein' and either grin and bear it or just shut the wax up!

(this rant would looked so much better before the censors got to it. Damn foul language filters!)

I also now just watch the first half and turn it to WSX. It's so much better.

Yeah, people's dislike of the current ECW has everything to do with it not being the old ECW, and nothing to do with it being a crappy show.

And telling people to "grin and bear it" over something they don't like doesn't look good, regardless of whether or not your precious little curse words are filtered.

OK, maybe I went a little overboard, but come one. Everyone tries to find minute things to nitpick about when it comes to ECW. "They're burying Punk", "Cor Von's name is stupid", "I want Paul E. back", this is just being petty. No one ever can just come out and say ECW sucks, although their little gripes sum up to that. They have to find the littlest things to whine about and hope that it gets fixed. Sadly, that isn't going to happen. Vince isn't going to fix it. He's just going to watch the ship go down and blame everything short of the booking on why it's failing.

Now, this thread was about whether or not people still call it just ECW or not. So, my rant was a little off the tracks in the first place. And, while I'm still a little off the tracks, let me ask this:

If this board was around during the Invasion, would all of you be calling the product ECWCWWF? I doubt it. So why the Hell call it WWECW? I don't care if it's a little different. It's still ECW. Deal with it.

[eDemento2099]

hellsing920 said:

I still call it ECW. ... ECW will never be what it used to be. Never. Even if Paul E. comes back and brings Raven, Douglas, New Jack, and the rest of the well known ECW names, it will still never be like the original ECW. So quit yer complain and/or rude femalein' and either grin and bear it or just shut the wax up!\

It doesn't have to be 100% authentic to the original ECW to warrant the "ECW" label. What we got at the original One Night Stand definitely lived up to the name, and I'd venture to say that many Wrestlecrappers would be okay with ONS2 being called an 'ECW" (as opposed to a "WWECW") PPV. Sure, ONS2 matches were booked with an uncomfortable number of WWE wrestlers, but the wrestling was of a high enough calibur that the hybrid nature of the product didn't seem to matter quite so much.

[Hiroshi Hase]

For the most part, it's relegated to the Internet, so it's not going to really go away till the brand decides to be shut down, so complaining about the WWECW isn't going to help.

If it was actually said on camera, then I could probably understand, but as I've said it's really trivial stuff that doesn't matter in the long run. Plus the show has had some pretty bad ones, so I see nothing wrong at all.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, cause no one's budging.

[hollywood]

brainofj said:

Jed Shaffer
~Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

[Hellsing920]

yjc1019 said:

For the most part, it's relegated to the Internet, so it's not going to really go away till the brand decides to be shut down, so complaining about the WWECW isn't going to help.

If it was actually said on camera, then I could probably understand, but as I've said it's really trivial stuff that doesn't matter in the long run. Plus the show has had some pretty bad ones, so I see nothing wrong at all.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, cause no one's budging.

Good point. Let's just let this thread die. We're all just spinning our wheels and going nowhere.

[lildude8218]

brainofj said:

lildude8218 said:

I think you're missing my point entirely.

Guy A posts his opinion that differs from the "norm."

Guys B-Z all pile on the guy by saying the exact same thing over and over.

Guy A suddenly stops posting. Which if you look at this thread....he hasn't posted a thing since his first post.

It's Guy A's right to post whatever he wants, and it's Guys B-Z's right to disagree. If Guy A wants to counter that, good for him. But the unpopularity of the product on Tuesday nights on the Sci-Fi Channel (just looking at the ratings) would seem to indicate that neo-ECW apologists are in the vast minority. And, if you're in such a minority, and you voice your opinion, you're liable to get barraged with dissenters. That's just mathematics.

Jed Shaffer
~Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

So people should be driven away from a public message board just because they have a different opinion than all the other people on that board? Especially when half of the replies to his inital post were mocking what he said in the first place, which to me seems almost like flaming, which is against the policies of this board.

There's a difference between having a discussion about something rather than making an opinion and then seeing roughly 20 others hammering into you about how "wrong" you are.

[Brain Of F'n J]

dsr said:

Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

I am also not a Mr. Kennedy fan. HIGH FIVE!

*puts hand up in the air*

*slaps that hand*

Nice to see I'm not alone.

Jed Shaffer
~"Hi. I wrestle like every generic stiff ever to come through the WWE developmental system. But I can bellow my name like Michael Buffer, then say my name again after a five second pause! I surely deserve a main event push!"

[lildude8218]

BTW, I third the "let it die" vote

[skskillz]

Guys, it's not that difficult to understand.

ECW: Extreme Championship Wrestling (Heyman's version)

WWECW: The WWE's version of Extreme Championship Wrestling

Is it really that difficult to understand? They are two different entities despite having the same name, therefore it's used as a way to seperate the two completely. Whether it's derogatory or not, that's the intention behind it.

I've said a number of times on this forum that I hate ECW. Both old and new (though I've never actually seen the new one...don't care to, but I hate the WWE in general so it just fits in). Regardless, I still feel it should be noted that the ECW we see today is not the ECW that was popular in the '90's. If TNA made a brand called "WWF", you're darn right I'd call it by something else.

[Big DSR Energy]

If this board was around during the Invasion, would all of you be calling the product ECWCWWF? I doubt it. So why the Hell call it WWECW? I don't care if it's a little different. It's still ECW. Deal with it.

The difference between the Invasion and the current ECW is that the Invasion was an angle that was part of the WWF show. ECW is (at least, in theory) its own entity that is owned by WWE.

As I said earlier, I don't use WWECW, I call it re-CW. This is solely so that, in conversation (or whatever), I can differentiate between the independent company that died out in 2001 and the show that's currently owned and operated by WWE.

[eDemento2099]

lildude8218 said:

brainofj said:

It's Guy A's right to post whatever he wants, and it's Guys B-Z's right to disagree. If Guy A wants to counter that, good for him. But the unpopularity of the product on Tuesday nights on the Sci-Fi Channel (just looking at the ratings) would seem to indicate that neo-ECW apologists are in the vast minority. And, if you're in such a minority, and you voice your opinion, you're liable to get barraged with dissenters. That's just mathematics.

Jed Shaffer
~Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

So people should be driven away from a public message board just because they have a different opinion than all the other people on that board? Especially when half of the replies to his inital post were mocking what he said in the first place, which to me seems almost like flaming, which is against the policies of this board.

There's a difference between having a discussion about something rather than making an opinion and then seeing roughly 20 others hammering into you about how "wrong" you are.

True. And hopefully, my comments were not interpreted to suggest that he is "wrong"; I only intended to provide an explanation as to why I disagree with him, and have no sense of regret in calling that .... THING "WWECW."

[hollywood]

hellsing920 said:

dsr said:

Yeah, people's dislike of the current ECW has everything to do with it not being the old ECW, and nothing to do with it being a crappy show.

And telling people to "grin and bear it" over something they don't like doesn't look good, regardless of whether or not your precious little curse words are filtered.

OK, maybe I went a little overboard, but come one. Everyone tries to find minute things to nitpick about when it comes to ECW. "They're burying Punk", "Cor Von's name is stupid", "I want Paul E. back", this is just being petty. No one ever can just come out and say ECW sucks, although their little gripes sum up to that. They have to find the littlest things to whine about and hope that it gets fixed.

Okay. ECW sucks.

[Hellsing920]

hollywood said:

hellsing920 said:

OK, maybe I went a little overboard, but come one. Everyone tries to find minute things to nitpick about when it comes to ECW. "They're burying Punk", "Cor Von's name is stupid", "I want Paul E. back", this is just being petty. No one ever can just come out and say ECW sucks, although their little gripes sum up to that. They have to find the littlest things to whine about and hope that it gets fixed.

Okay. ECW sucks.

See. That wasn't so hard, now was it? ;D

[Hiroshi Hase]

lildude8218 said:

brainofj said:

It's Guy A's right to post whatever he wants, and it's Guys B-Z's right to disagree. If Guy A wants to counter that, good for him. But the unpopularity of the product on Tuesday nights on the Sci-Fi Channel (just looking at the ratings) would seem to indicate that neo-ECW apologists are in the vast minority. And, if you're in such a minority, and you voice your opinion, you're liable to get barraged with dissenters. That's just mathematics.

Jed Shaffer
~Here, allow me to share a non-majority opinion guaranteed to get people riled up: I hate Mr. Kennedy. Pile on, folks.

So people should be driven away from a public message board just because they have a different opinion than all the other people on that board? Especially when half of the replies to his inital post were mocking what he said in the first place, which to me seems almost like flaming, which is against the policies of this board.

There's a difference between having a discussion about something rather than making an opinion and then seeing roughly 20 others hammering into you about how "wrong" you are.

I didn't really read most of the replies, but I don't recall saying he was wrong for what he thought, that's his opinion and he has the right to it. I only said I didn't see any harm in saying it,that's all.

No one is going to stop saying it, I know I won't. I say it lightheartedly, as my expectations have been severely lowered towards WWECW in the last few months, but if it's that much of a bother, just ignore it.

I ignored the Luger, Stamp,Snitsky and Phone (Phony Kane) crazes, it's not that hard really to do. Belittling and insulting (not saying you are) people isn't going to change people's minds, may as well grin and bear it, or just ignore it.

It's trivial and not that serious at all.

[erisi236]

Well really, the original post is not "Wrong" in an sense of the word, the show is in fact called "ECW".

[Chainsaw]

heartburnkid said:

chainsawiscaw said:

"Ah, lace...the final brasierre! Hey, what the..."









Yeah, it's Extreme Nitro.

Actually I prefer to call it Extreme Thunder. Nitro had a lot of great shows. The only thing good about Thunder was Stevie Ray's "Suckas gots to know" and "Fruitbooty" catchphrases but that got old real fast. ECW hasn't hit Thunder level yet but it's getting close.

Can we compromise and call it "Extreme WCW Circa 2000"?

Or would that not fit on the bumper sticker?

[skskillz]

hollywood said:

Okay. ECW sucks.

Which ECW are you talking about?