Hogan On Bubba The Love Sponge Today...

[akkountent]

Would anyone mark if THE GREAT KHALI had an entrance simiilar to HHH at WM 22?

[jcdenton]

theboss said:

areyouready said:

Yes me too, but I'm not annoyed I see it as a helpful piece of assistance, as soon as I see it I know I can keep on scrolling.

But in any event this isn't Vince wanting to share the money out more fairly, he just wants to give Hogan less. You think he's going to go to the other performers on the card and say "Good news, I've secured you more money" Of course he's not.

Hogan knows his worth and at his age and condition he's sticking to that religiously, and who can blame him. Sure Hogan's rich but if you were rich would you work for a BILLIONAIRE for free or less than you think you're worth? No of course you wouldn't, nor would I if I were in Hogan's position.

To me this is about ego, I think the rot in Hogan/McMahon's relationship probably set in around the same time HHH woke up and thought "hey, Hogan gets bigger pops than me". I mean, who can forget the frankly embarrassing episode at Summerslam when HHH virtually spent 10 minutes trying to outpop him (and failing miserably amusingly enough) at Summerslam? Now suddenly Hogan's just "another guy". Since when? Look at these last two Summerslams where Hogan has been the top advertised draw for each show and the buyrates they did are fantastic. He is not just another "it guy" (what the hell does that mean anyway?) but rather THE it guy.

However it will be Vince and not Hogan who will be embarrassed because of this. Just think about the venue, the occasion. I would guess a LOT of tickets for that event went to people wanting to a) see wrestlemania and b) see Hulk Hogan. If you went down to the line of people queueing up at the box office for tickets and asked them which performer they were most looking forward to seeing I bet most would have said Hogan. I bet there will be "We Want Hogan" chants as most people would have wanted to see Hogan there. They'll almost certainly crap all over the Lashley/Umaga thing and the Khali match as those are the two widely speculated that Hogan would participate in.

So yeah, this isn't Vince standing up to the big bad Hogan, it's Vince trying to save money and convincing himself that he doesn't need who is probably the biggest individual reason for the majority of people to buy tickets to the event to be at Wrestlemania.

Despite your lie of not reading my posts (makes no difference to me) you do make one hell of a point. Especially about fans expecting to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania 23. When the tickets went on sale only one name was on the card: HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Even his opponent wasn't 100% yet. They said that they wanted to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the "body slam heard 'round the world". Tickets sold out in one hour on HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S name alone. A lot of fans are going to be angry.

you got proof that when tickets went on sail, hogan's name was on the card?

[rrm15]

theboss said:

areyouready said:

Yes me too, but I'm not annoyed I see it as a helpful piece of assistance, as soon as I see it I know I can keep on scrolling.

But in any event this isn't Vince wanting to share the money out more fairly, he just wants to give Hogan less. You think he's going to go to the other performers on the card and say "Good news, I've secured you more money" Of course he's not.

Hogan knows his worth and at his age and condition he's sticking to that religiously, and who can blame him. Sure Hogan's rich but if you were rich would you work for a BILLIONAIRE for free or less than you think you're worth? No of course you wouldn't, nor would I if I were in Hogan's position.

To me this is about ego, I think the rot in Hogan/McMahon's relationship probably set in around the same time HHH woke up and thought "hey, Hogan gets bigger pops than me". I mean, who can forget the frankly embarrassing episode at Summerslam when HHH virtually spent 10 minutes trying to outpop him (and failing miserably amusingly enough) at Summerslam? Now suddenly Hogan's just "another guy". Since when? Look at these last two Summerslams where Hogan has been the top advertised draw for each show and the buyrates they did are fantastic. He is not just another "it guy" (what the hell does that mean anyway?) but rather THE it guy.

However it will be Vince and not Hogan who will be embarrassed because of this. Just think about the venue, the occasion. I would guess a LOT of tickets for that event went to people wanting to a) see wrestlemania and b) see Hulk Hogan. If you went down to the line of people queueing up at the box office for tickets and asked them which performer they were most looking forward to seeing I bet most would have said Hogan. I bet there will be "We Want Hogan" chants as most people would have wanted to see Hogan there. They'll almost certainly crap all over the Lashley/Umaga thing and the Khali match as those are the two widely speculated that Hogan would participate in.

So yeah, this isn't Vince standing up to the big bad Hogan, it's Vince trying to save money and convincing himself that he doesn't need who is probably the biggest individual reason for the majority of people to buy tickets to the event to be at Wrestlemania.

Despite your lie of not reading my posts (makes no difference to me) you do make one hell of a point. Especially about fans expecting to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania 23. When the tickets went on sale only one name was on the card: HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Even his opponent wasn't 100% yet. They said that they wanted to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the "body slam heard 'round the world". Tickets sold out in one hour on HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S name alone. A lot of fans are going to be angry.

Well, lifes not fair.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

Despite your lie of not reading my posts (makes no difference to me) you do make one hell of a point. Especially about fans expecting to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN at WrestleMania 23. When the tickets went on sale only one name was on the card: HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Even his opponent wasn't 100% yet. They said that they wanted to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the "body slam heard 'round the world". Tickets sold out in one hour on HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S name alone. A lot of fans are going to be angry.

Thats simultaneously the best and worst post of all time, are you serious or is it some elaborate joke?

[jcdenton]

JoHn cEnA

A mixed responce ;D

[rrm15]

CONWAY- Silence.

[MGH]

ULTIMATE WARRIOR

...Kind of crashed.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

BULL NAKANO

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Screw Hogan, they need THE GREAT KHALI on Bubba the Love Sponge.

[jcdenton]

ANDRE THE GIANT

[The Boss]

mightykretzler said:

Meh, Hogan always ended up coming back and stealing the spotlight from talented guys. Warrior was not a good wrestler, either. He sucked. Even worse than Hogan. Hogan won't even job to guys at the right time. Hell, he didn't even put Orton over. And Randy needed that right then; he could've become a good heel faster. Orton is no legend, but come on, Hogan comes back to force him to job? Shenanigans, I say.

Losing to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was the best thing for Orton's career. He was stuck in that stupid legend killer gimmick. He was going nowhere. He was beating guys who were over fifty but very few of the guys from today. Furthermore the WWF was running out of legends for him to beat. Orton needed for that gimmick to be smashed. And who better to do it than the biggest legend of them all? Now Orton is free to focus on the stars of today as well as titles.

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MNKM, the fictional stable consiting of...

JOEY MERCURY

JOHNNY NITRO

THE GREAT KHALI

MELINA

Yup, that's 4 in a row. All four members of MNKM, which could easily destroy Hulk Hogan.

[Palatial Regalia]

theboss said:

Losing to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was the best thing for Orton's career. He was stuck in that stupid legend killer gimmick. He was going nowhere. He was beating guys who were over fifty but very few of the guys from today. Furthermore the WWF was running out of legends for him to beat. Orton needed for that gimmick to be smashed. And who better to do it than the biggest legend of them all? Now Orton is free to focus on the stars of today as well as titles.

He got a valid point.

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protoroc said:

theboss said:

Losing to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was the best thing for Orton's career. He was stuck in that stupid legend killer gimmick. He was going nowhere. He was beating guys who were over fifty but very few of the guys from today. Furthermore the WWF was running out of legends for him to beat. Orton needed for that gimmick to be smashed. And who better to do it than the biggest legend of them all? Now Orton is free to focus on the stars of today as well as titles.

He got a valid point.

Nay. Hogan could've put Orton over. I can't stand Orton, but it was the least hogan could do to put the dude over. Until Rated-RKO, Randy was in limbo.

[Cousin Judge]

But this whole "younger guys" bullshit....wrestling is a business and while it's important to create new superstars you HAVE to cash in on the one's you have. If we turn it into a conveyorbelt and keep pushing guys on basis of age rather than talent or appeal then the industry would die within 10 years.

[Hulk With A Mustache]

To be honest, I have no idea what will happen to WrestleMania 23 without Hulk Hogan. And, I don't care.

[Hulk With A Mustache]

EDGE

[Cousin Judge]

mightykretzler said:

protoroc said:

He got a valid point.

Nay. Hogan could've put Orton over. I can't stand Orton, but it was the least hogan could do to put the dude over. Until Rated-RKO, Randy was in limbo.

Yes for all of 5 weeks

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areyouready said:

But this whole "younger guys" bullcrap....wrestling is a business and while it's important to create new superstars you HAVE to cash in on the one's you have. If we turn it into a conveyorbelt and keep pushing guys on basis of age rather than talent or appeal then the industry would die within 10 years.

It doesn't have to a conveyor belt. No, hogan can put a young guy over once in a while.

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areyouready said:

mightykretzler said:

Nay. Hogan could've put Orton over. I can't stand Orton, but it was the least hogan could do to put the dude over. Until Rated-RKO, Randy was in limbo.

Yes for all of 5 weeks

If it wasn't for that solution sticking him with Edge, things would've been worse. Hypothetical, sure. But still...


Oh, and


SNITSKY!