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Post by A on Feb 3, 2007 16:46:50 GMT -5
I'm really going to miss him. Hopefully TNA can do something big with him, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 16:48:00 GMT -5
He was world champion and he got caught with drugs. At a time when WWE were implementing a well publicised drug policy. How do you think that made WWE look to people? "oh, yeah, they say they're trying get guys clean but their world champion, the guy who represents the company, can't help but smoke a joint." I'm not an RVD hater, but he waxed up. And it's hard to feel sorry for him right now. I have the same understanding. And I'm a huge fan for the guy. Any faults he has right now are by his own hand. Yeah I'm in the same boat. I love RVD to death but it's the way business goes, when I worked at the Pizza Hut call centre I did a lot of things that I got in trouble for, like taking off my shoes and walking around in my socks, sitting on three chairs at once, playing video games on the job(aren't I a rebel?), I mean I was still doing my job the same as anyone else so it's not like any of it really affected anyone but what the man wants the man gets. And that's in a stupid PIZZA HUT CALL CENTRE, RVD's working for the biggest wrestling federation in the world and got caught ridin' dirty, that's like the Pizza Hut equivalent of not wearing shoes, or shirt and asking for service. |
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Post by amsiraK on Feb 3, 2007 16:50:57 GMT -5
True that he did kind of f*** himself up with that... but isn't there a little preferential treatment handed out to others? Wasn't Orton caught with a doob backstage and NOTHING happened to him?
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Post by wwerules60 on Feb 3, 2007 16:53:13 GMT -5
Its all smark like rumors. Until RVD is gone from TV I wont believe it. You can tell it is smark bait by the "(like CM Punks job)" remark
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 16:55:31 GMT -5
True that he did kind of wax himself up with that... but isn't there a little preferential treatment handed out to others? Wasn't Orton caught with a doob backstage and NOTHING happened to him? He was suspended for 60 days. However, he wasn't caught by a cop, arrested or world champion at the time. That is the major difference between him and rvd and I guess why he's still getting a push. |
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 3, 2007 16:56:29 GMT -5
True that he did kind of wax himself up with that... but isn't there a little preferential treatment handed out to others? Wasn't Orton caught with a doob backstage and NOTHING happened to him? To this day I don't think this actually happened. I think he just had attitude probelms or did something desrespectful. I'm under the understanding that this was said in a lame attempt to get him over with 'net fans. Because if we like RVD for smoking the pot, then we'll like Orton. This theory of mine came when the first mention of this was from a WWE magazine. You would think the dirtsheets would report this if it were true. |
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Post by GrantM on Feb 3, 2007 16:56:30 GMT -5
The YouTube shooters are already jumping on the "RVD is going to TNA" bandwagon
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Post by underhook on Feb 3, 2007 16:58:30 GMT -5
Whatever, RVD has always bored me in WWE.
Hopefully they'll give him a stoner gimmick in ROH or TNA. That would be greatness
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Post by balmudo on Feb 3, 2007 17:00:23 GMT -5
If Randy Orton had bee busted with weed by the police, everyone would be calling for his head. You bet. The IWC loves B. Brian Blair and "Jumpin'" Jim Brunzell. |
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Post by Jiren on Feb 3, 2007 17:13:09 GMT -5
IF true then i do hope he goes to TNA because they will let him be his true self (In ring).
In fact Sabu was better in TNA as well.
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Post by underhook on Feb 3, 2007 17:15:34 GMT -5
IF true then i do hope he goes to TNA because they will let him be his true self (In ring). In fact Sabu was better in TNA as well. Sabu didn't really get a chance to shine in TNA IMO. The thing I remember most is him jobbing to Samoa Joe and his feud with Abyss. Neither were that memorable. |
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Post by Jiren on Feb 3, 2007 17:17:44 GMT -5
IF true then i do hope he goes to TNA because they will let him be his true self (In ring). In fact Sabu was better in TNA as well. Sabu didn't really get a chance to shine in TNA IMO. The thing I remember most is him jobbing to Samoa Joe and his feud with Abyss. Neither were that memorable. Stll better than his WWE tenure so far Jobbing to Joe > Jobbing to Cena/Test At least in TNA he had that awsome hardcore cage match with Abyss |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 3, 2007 17:22:07 GMT -5
So because wrestling doesn't get paid much attention to, it was completely fine for RVD to be busted with ILLEGAL drugs as the WWE champion? This goes back to the whole thing about being a hypocrite. If Randy Orton had bee busted with weed by the police, everyone would be calling for his head. Since RVD is an internet favorite, he gets a pass. Nope. He's a loser. You can tell by the way he acts that he is like a child in a grown man's body (yes, I'm recycling my quote.) He's not professional in the least and doesn't deserve to be a major face for any publically traded company. It's not absoloutely fine but it's not the ridiculous all hell breaking loose/all finegrs pointed at the morally corrupt drug endorsing WWE type situation people are making it out to be. RVD screwed up, can't disagree with that, but it isn't like he's screwed the company out of getting any mainstream respect ever again thanks to getting caught with pot. Nope, this has come up a thousand and one times when this same topic coems up - for every RVD fan out there there's probably ten more who are ready to post how he's either gotten stale/has never been interesting/has a limited and weak looking move set/isn't what he's made out to be or deserves everything he's getting. It's like people complaining about CM Punk fans, there's even more people ready to jump down his throat about something than ever. RVD does get less critiscism than someone like Orton but i'd put that down to the fans of his time in ECW and the work he put in over there, coupled with some of the stand out meoments he's had in the WWE, Orton thus far has been a complete dud in most peoples eyes yet the guy still gets an indescribable amoutnt of pushes. So? Jakes a drug addict, it's not like the guys corrupting the moral fabric of america by appearing on WWE TV once in a lifetime and getting people cheering for him. He's got his own personal problems but thats exactly what they are - personal. thats why most wrestling fans remember the guys in ring work fondly, rather than let his drug and drink problems get in the way of recongnising a legend. |
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Post by CrazySting on Feb 3, 2007 17:26:06 GMT -5
So? Jakes a drug addict, it's not like the guys corrupting the moral fabric of america by appearing on WWE TV once in a lifetime and getting people cheering for him. He's got his own personal problems but thats exactly what they are - personal. thats why about 95% of wrestling fans remember the guys in ring work fondly and couldn't give a crap about him doing what he does outside of it. Your point was that RVD's arrest didn't matter because the fans didn't care and continuted to cheer him. My point was that Vince can't just ignore RVD's actions because the fans cheer him and use fan reaction as a way to gauge the wrongness of his drug arrest. Fans will generally cheer any wrestler regardless of what they've done so, you can't factor them into deciding how to punish RVD. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 3, 2007 17:28:09 GMT -5
Good riddance, Kicky McGee. Please don't show up in TNA. I like it WAY too much to have to put up with your stale ass.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 3, 2007 17:28:35 GMT -5
So? Jakes a drug addict, it's not like the guys corrupting the moral fabric of america by appearing on WWE TV once in a lifetime and getting people cheering for him. He's got his own personal problems but thats exactly what they are - personal. thats why about 95% of wrestling fans remember the guys in ring work fondly and couldn't give a crap about him doing what he does outside of it. Your point was that RVD's arrest didn't matter because the fans didn't care and continuted to cheer him. My point was that Vince can't just ignore RVD's actions because the fans cheer him and use fan reaction as a way to gauge the wrongness of his drug arrest. Fans will generally cheer any wrestler regardless of what they've done so, you can't factor them into deciding how to punish RVD. It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that them keeping RVD around isn't making a joke of the company in the eyes of any mainstream media on a large scale, or getting them any major heat from pressure groups. The punishment was fine, he brought it on himself, but it seems like an age ago. Constantly having him lose to no marks like Test and Holly this far on isn't doing anyone any favours. |
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 3, 2007 17:30:26 GMT -5
Your point was that RVD's arrest didn't matter because the fans didn't care and continuted to cheer him. My point was that Vince can't just ignore RVD's actions because the fans cheer him and use fan reaction as a way to gauge the wrongness of his drug arrest. Fans will generally cheer any wrestler regardless of what they've done so, you can't factor them into deciding how to punish RVD. It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that them keeping RVD around isn't making a joke of the company in the eyes of any mainstream media on a large scale, or getting them any major heat from pressure groups. The punishment was fine, he brought it on himself, but it seems like an age ago. Constantly having him lose to no marks like Test and Holly this far on isn't doing anyone any favours. How long was Trips' punishment? |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Feb 3, 2007 17:31:34 GMT -5
It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that them keeping RVD around isn't making a joke of the company in the eyes of any mainstream media on a large scale, or getting them any major heat from pressure groups. The punishment was fine, he brought it on himself, but it seems like an age ago. Constantly having him lose to no marks like Test and Holly this far on isn't doing anyone any favours. How long was Trips' punishment? A good year or so. A little more, actually, if I remember right. |
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 3, 2007 17:32:08 GMT -5
It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that them keeping RVD around isn't making a joke of the company in the eyes of any mainstream media on a large scale, or getting them any major heat from pressure groups. The punishment was fine, he brought it on himself, but it seems like an age ago. Constantly having him lose to no marks like Test and Holly this far on isn't doing anyone any favours. How long was Trips' punishment? I don't know, i dont care, i'm sure these days he's not letting it get to him. |
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Feb 3, 2007 17:32:45 GMT -5
Then RVD has no grounds to complain.
Suck it up, dumbass.
(I'm a huge mark for him, too.)
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