RVD gives his notice

[Jiren]

Before his "Drug" incident he was Misused

[CrazySting]

drbackflipshoffman said:

cenamark21 said:

Your point was that RVD's arrest didn't matter because the fans didn't care and continuted to cheer him. My point was that Vince can't just ignore RVD's actions because the fans cheer him and use fan reaction as a way to gauge the wrongness of his drug arrest. Fans will generally cheer any wrestler regardless of what they've done so, you can't factor them into deciding how to punish RVD.

It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that them keeping RVD around isn't making a joke of the company in the eyes of any mainstream media on a large scale, or getting them any major heat from pressure groups.

Keeping RVD around is fine. Not many were calling for him to be fired when the story broke. Pushing him to the top again like nothing has happened? That's another story. Heck, if I were a wrestler in wwe I wouldn't like it. He's not sorry at all, hasn't learned a thing , and hasn't stopped getting stoned if his recent internet blogs are anything to go by,so what's to stop it happening again?

[Brick Killed a Guy]

chuckymac314 said:

Good riddance, Kicky McGee. Please don't show up in TNA. I like it WAY too much to have to put up with your stale ass.

Maybe he'll be the new member of VKM. That could be comical.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

He's not sorry at all, hasn't learned a thing , and hasn't stopped getting stoned if his recent internet blogs are anything to go by,so what's to stop it happening again?

How d'you know? he left that one wise crack on his website about what happened, months after it actually had happened, he didn't go out days after it all and start shooting his mouth off.

Drugs in wrestling happens in every locker room, there's even storiesd about Hogan spending most of the 80's coked out of his tree. There's no telling whether 90% of that locker room actually does drugs themselves or not. RVD just managed to get caught.

[dranny]

I'm not a dirt-sheet believer, but if this is true, you can hardly blame him. He's the chief crap-magnet on ECW and that's so far away from the ECW he remembers that I can't imagine him being happy with it.

At least with this version of ECW, he actually gets paid.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

uncivilized82 said:

chuckymac314 said:

Good riddance, Kicky McGee. Please don't show up in TNA. I like it WAY too much to have to put up with your stale ass.

Maybe he'll be the new member of VKM. That could be comical.

God, I hope not. I don't really like VKM anymore to begin with, but if Kicky were to join in, I'd really be sick of them.

[CrazySting]

drbackflipshoffman said:

He's not sorry at all, hasn't learned a thing , and hasn't stopped getting stoned if his recent internet blogs are anything to go by,so what's to stop it happening again?

How d'you know? he left that one wise crack on his website

That's one joke too many if you ask me. I don't recall Regal or anyone else making a mockery of their drug issues while getting help and/or serving punishments for it, do you?

Drugs in wrestling happens in every locker room, there's no telling whether 90% of that locker room actually does drugs themselves or not, but RVD just managed to get caught.

So, by that thinking, RVD shouldn't even have been punished at all because "everyone else is doing it".

[Hiroshi Hase]

cropsy13 said:

Before his "Drug" incident he was Misused

I disagree because he was having great matches with Edge,Angle and Cena before his f***-up on the weekend of July 4th, I know his fans are upset because since everyone else does it, he shouldn't get punished, but he got caught.

From that point on, he was on borrowed time, he would've never got the WWECW title back ever, maybe in 3 years if the brand is still around and if Vince decides to let it go.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

So, by that thinking, RVD shouldn't even have been punished at all because "everyone else is doing it".

No, i didn't say he shouldn't have been punished, but the way everyone has held onto him getting busted with pot and the way a few people initially reacted when the news first came out was comical, in fact one poster who doesn't post any more went so far as to say he'd given the company a black eye that they would never recover from, like RVD was some sort of shapeshifting snake character who was poisoning the good honest name of World Wrestling Entertainment from the inside with drugs, or is the first guy to ever get caught with them in the entertainment industry.

[Hiroshi Hase]

drbackflipshoffman said:

So, by that thinking, RVD shouldn't even have been punished at all because "everyone else is doing it".

No, i didn't say he shouldn't have been punished, but the way everyone has held onto him getting busted with pot and the way a few people initially reacted when the news first came out was comical, in fact one poster who doesn't post any more went so far as to say he'd given the company a black eye that they would never recover from, like RVD was some sort of shapeshifting snake character who was poisoning the good honest name of World Wrestling Entertainment from the inside with drugs, or is the first guy to ever get caught with them in the entertainment industry.

Still, just because others have been caught doesn't make his excusable. I know a lot of people like the guy, but they had a policy and he violated it.

[RandomHero]

Eh, from my point of view RVD is one of my favorite wrestlers who was one half of one of my favorite matches of all time (RVD vs Jerry Lyn Hardcore Heaven '99) and WWE has screwed him. Forget about the whole pot deal, I'm talking about before that. They didn't let him wrestle the way that made him famous, they didn't let him act the way that made him famous. The only reason he ever got close to a world title is because they wanted to put ECW over, and whether they liked it or not, he was the man. He was always schedualed to be a short term champ and everyone knew the belt was going back to Cena as soon as ECdub was established. RVD just isn't a "WWE" wrestler. I, for one, am super excited to see him back in an environment where he can actually work to his strengths rather than just get held down because he doesn't fit into a certain pre-determined mold.

PS: LOL@all the marks who are angry he got busted with pot. You act like he broke into your house, slapped your mom, crapped in your cereal and humped your girl. Seriously, get over it.

[Ben Wyatt]

cropsy13 said:

Before his "Drug" incident he was Misused

He sure was. Main eventing PPV's and having 2 titles and all

[amplifierWORSHIP!]

i'm gonna ignore the whining and go smoke a bowl while watching old RVD matches

holla!

[bob]

and the number of reasons I watch WWECW continues to decrease

[kickassforumguyme]

Even though he's 37 now I think RVD has a few good years left.

I think in the right environment we will see 1998 RVD.

He's officially my favorite wrestler of all time and I cant wait to see what he can do in Ultimate X match.

[Hiroshi Hase]

pfmc said:

i'm gonna ignore the whining and go smoke a bowl while watching old RVD matches

holla!

Who's whining? I haven't read the whole thread, but some points on both sides seem valid. He messed up, and at the same time he was held back for some time prior to ONS 06, he did put on some great matches, but it was his fault for what he did.

I'm not angry about it, one way or the other, it might make things interesting in TNA if he decides to go, but that's all.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

kickassforumguyme said:

Even though he's 37 now I think RVD has a few good years left.

I think in the right environment we will see 1998 RVD.

He's officially my favorite wrestler of all time and I cant wait to see what he can do in Ultimate X match.

Um... kick, kick, rolling thunder, kick a chair into a guy's face, frog splash. Same thing he always does.

[Ben Wyatt]

chuckymac314 said:

kickassforumguyme said:

Even though he's 37 now I think RVD has a few good years left.

I think in the right environment we will see 1998 RVD.

He's officially my favorite wrestler of all time and I cant wait to see what he can do in Ultimate X match.

Um... kick, kick, rolling thunder, kick a chair into a guy's face, frog splash. Same thing he always does.

Thank you.

Im an RVD fan, but lets be honest, that's pretty much all the guy does, and its been that way most of his career, even back in the old ECW days

[Garcia Vega]

cropsy13 said:

Before his "Drug" incident he was Misused

He sure was. That explains why in a span of one year, RVD:

- Was drafted to Raw.

- Was one of the final 4 in the Rumble.

- Was one match away from main eventing Wrestlemania 22, thus proving he was immediately thrown into the main event when he returned from his injury.

- Was the winner of the MITB match at Wrestlemania for a title shot.

- Won the IC title from Shelton Benjamin as well as had the guaranteed WWE title match.

- Won the WWE title from JOHN CENA at a PPV that was more or less built around his match. I don't care if he didn't win clean, no one will ever beat Cena clean.

- Was handed the ECW title, thus making him double champion.


My whole point would be to pretty much say that I bet a lot of wrestlers would probably beg to be misused based on what you said.

[JMA]

RVD is better off without WWE. When he first came in he was one of the most over wrestlers in the entire company; to put this into perspective, he was one of the most over wrestlers in a company that featured Stone Cold and The Rock. And yet, he was misused for years because he wasn't a "WWF/E guy." And when he finally got his FIRST shot at being a champion (after YEARS of misuse), he made one mistake and gave WWE the justification to bury him. This despite the fact that others that had been caught smoking pot (Orton) were still pushed afterwards. Frankly, anyone saying that RVD was treated fairly by WWE is an idiot, in my opinion. In WWE's eyes all wrestlers are equal, but some wrestlers are more equal than others.

Good riddance to WWE (assuming this is true).