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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 21, 2007 1:25:40 GMT -5
Saying Punk can't use the Go 2 Sleep is like saying nobody can use the powerbomb or DDT.
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Post by samachine on Feb 21, 2007 1:27:08 GMT -5
Saying Punk can't use the Go 2 Sleep is like saying nobody can use the powerbomb or DDT. No. It's more like saying no one can use the Shooting Star Press in the 90s when Liger first started using it.
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Post by The Line on Feb 21, 2007 1:31:10 GMT -5
if no one "stole" moves, then no one would have more than about 1 or 2 moves, if that. Just face it, its a fact of wrestling.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 21, 2007 1:31:21 GMT -5
Saying Punk can't use the Go 2 Sleep is like saying nobody can use the powerbomb or DDT. No. It's more like saying no one can use the Shooting Star Press in the 90s when Liger first started using it. Look, has KENTA complained about this? No? Then what's the big deal? It's a wrestling manuver. Besides, plenty of guys have kicked out of the Go 2 Sleep, so it's not like it has a mythos built around it like Kobashi's Burning Hammer. I mean, I don't see Homicide getting flak for using the Lariat as a finisher. Is Stan Hansen furious over this? Maybe Magnum Kudo is pissed that he also uses the Kudo Driver? Scandal!
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Feb 21, 2007 1:34:20 GMT -5
as long as this is in the Next video game, i will be a heppy clam
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 21, 2007 1:35:14 GMT -5
as long as this is in the Next video game, i will be a heppy clam Yeah, why do we not have the Go 2 Sleep, but eight billion variations on the scoop slam, exactly?
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Post by mrchimpus on Feb 21, 2007 1:36:09 GMT -5
Let's face the fact that someone was gonna steal it sooner or later and it just so happened that punk stole it. Out of curiousity, did anyone jump on Kendrick when he started using marufuji's finisher?
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Post by heffer111 on Feb 21, 2007 1:36:39 GMT -5
as long as this is in the Next video game, i will be a heppy clam Yeah, why do we not have the Go 2 Sleep, but eight billion variations on the scoop slam, exactly? because the scoop slam is EXTREMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post by nisi on Feb 21, 2007 1:37:59 GMT -5
Just caught this on wwe.com, very cool
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Feb 21, 2007 1:39:29 GMT -5
There's a nice post-match interview with Punk. You can see the happiness radiate from him.
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Post by cosmonaut on Feb 21, 2007 1:52:08 GMT -5
It'd be cool for him to bust it out in big matches, but if we're talking knee-to-the-head-KO-finishers, I don't understand why he doesn't use a vicious Shining Wizard as his finisher. Helms uses it (rather badly IMO and Punk's is 100x better) but still, he uses it. No two guys in the same fed should have the same finisher and seniority takes priority. Helms is more of an enzuigiri, though, isn't it? And when does anyone actually see Helms wrestle?
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Post by Jeff Mack on Feb 21, 2007 2:19:38 GMT -5
I mostly marked for the finish of that match. Nitro, sensing he was one big move away from a win, attempts a beautiful corkscrew moonsault, but misses, then receives a knock out blow from Punk for a decisive win.
How many stupid roll-up wins do you see every week on Raw. I hate it...let there be actual winners and losers!
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 21, 2007 9:57:36 GMT -5
I have to say...I marked.
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Post by JoshWoodrumGreaterThanHBK on Feb 21, 2007 10:07:29 GMT -5
as long as this is in the Next video game, i will be a heppy clam They have something similar to this.... its a neckbreaker where the opponent is lifted in DVD position than dropped head first across the givers knee
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 21, 2007 10:08:56 GMT -5
as long as this is in the Next video game, i will be a heppy clam They have something similar to this.... its a neckbreaker where the opponent is lifted in DVD position than dropped head first across the givers knee Yeah, but like most of the moves in the game...it's just not the same. I'm still trying to figure out why there hasn't been a TKO in ANY SD GAME YET!
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Feb 21, 2007 10:19:53 GMT -5
Ya know, I said to myself last night "If this was ANYONE else besides Punk, everyone would cry about the move being stolen from Japan". I also said to myself that I should prepare for the oncoming internet orgasm, because Punk successfully had the exact same match he's had since his debut, but he added one new move in.
Right on both counts!
Oh well, at least I enjoyed RVD/Thorn, and Snitsky kicking the mexican infants around like he likes to do.
What? They WERENT infants?
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Post by amplifierWORSHIP! on Feb 21, 2007 10:23:21 GMT -5
Ya know, I said to myself last night "If this was ANYONE else besides Punk, everyone would cry about the move being stolen from Japan". I also said to myself that I should prepare for the oncoming internet orgasm, because Punk successfully had the exact same match he's had since his debut, but he added one new move in. only if it's Arik Cannon i mean, i marked for MVP doing an Emerald Fusion, it doesn't really matter to me if American wrestlers use Japanese maneuvers. especially in the WWE, where those fans will NEVER see those moves anyway.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Feb 21, 2007 10:25:48 GMT -5
Ya know, I said to myself last night "If this was ANYONE else besides Punk, everyone would cry about the move being stolen from Japan". I also said to myself that I should prepare for the oncoming internet orgasm, because Punk successfully had the exact same match he's had since his debut, but he added one new move in. only if it's Arik Cannon i mean, i marked for MVP doing an Emerald Fusion, it doesn't really matter to me if American wrestlers use Japanese maneuvers. especially in the WWE, where those fans will NEVER see those moves anyway. I dunno. I dont think we, as a whole, give the common WWE fan enough credit. After all, I hate TNA, have watched about 2 ROH matches ever and have no need to ever see another, and barely even watch WWE anymore, and don't watch puro unless it has guys like Hansen, Vader, Lyger, Muta, Hogan, etc....but I knew exactly what "Go 2 Sleep" is and where it came from. Sure, its only because someone posted about Kenta's version here a few months ago, but its not like we're the ONLY internet forum around. People have ways of seeing things.
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Post by amplifierWORSHIP! on Feb 21, 2007 10:28:44 GMT -5
I dunno. I dont think we, as a whole, give the common WWE fan enough credit. After all, I hate TNA, have watched about 2 ROH matches ever and have no need to ever see another, and barely even watch WWE anymore, and don't watch puro unless it has guys like Hansen, Vader, Lyger, Muta, Hogan, etc....but I knew exactly what "Go 2 Sleep" is and where it came from. Sure, its only because someone posted about Kenta's version here a few months ago, but its not like we're the ONLY internet forum around. People have ways of seeing things. i think you're givin them too much credit but maybe i'm being too judgmental, but if the majority of WWE fans were that into wrestling and exploring other promotions, i don't think they'd continue cheering the hell out of people like Batista. idk, i shouldn't judge em anyway. their opinions matter more than mine.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Feb 21, 2007 10:33:36 GMT -5
Yeah good point on Batista (Or Lashley, or Cena, or just about anyone else you might mention)
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