HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN'S perfect ECW opponent?

[amsiraK]

lenny said:

You know, we don't have to bump this thread every five days. I'm pretty sure it expired at page 2.

Just so you know... "WE" don't.

And let me be the one to remind everyone that bumping a thread with a post and then deleting your post doesn't jive around here. Either have something additional to contribute... or don't.

[Lt. Palumbo]

theboss said:

warwolf said:

.....making him the only wrestler to legitimately win a world title.

dude that is crazy logic

I've not seen the match, so I dunno, but from your description it sounds to me like either Hogan waxed up, knocking the guy off the apron when he wasn't ready, or Inoki waxed up and landed wrong

either way, how anyone could count that as a 'legit' win is beyond me, it's not like they were having a legitimate fight, were they?

Or even if Hogan had 'gone into business for himself' as it were and started shooting on the guy

It was just a mistake that the company had to cover up, in essence they 'rewrote the script' (I hate the 'it's all scripted' mentality, but you get the metaphor)

It's similar to to Rated RKO getting heel heat for injuring Triple H, when in actuality it had little to nothing to do with either one of them

EDIT: Sorry,didn't mean to rant and there's no offense intended, just don't think it's fair to call it legitimate

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lenny said:

You know, we don't have to bump this thread every five days. I'm pretty sure it expired at page 2.

Correct. But "somebody" doesn't know that.

[Neodymium]

I wonder if !!!!~~~****HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN****~~~!!!! can even work these days. I mean, !!!!~~~****HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN****~~~!!!! is pretty old. For an ideal high workrate ECW atmosphere, !!!!~~~****HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN****~~~!!!! would probably not be the best person. Even in his nWo days, !!!!~~~****HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN****~~~!!!! was starting to show his age. Anyway, !!!!~~~****HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN****~~~!!!!'s legacy can at least be kept alive through memories.

[Warwolf]

justinothervictim said:

theboss said:

warwolf said:

.....making him the only wrestler to legitimately win a world title.

dude that is crazy logic

I've not seen the match, so I dunno, but from your description it sounds to me like either Hogan waxed up, knocking the guy off the apron when he wasn't ready, or Inoki waxed up and landed wrong

either way, how anyone could count that as a 'legit' win is beyond me, it's not like they were having a legitimate fight, were they?

Or even if Hogan had 'gone into business for himself' as it were and started shooting on the guy

It was just a mistake that the company had to cover up, in essence they 'rewrote the script' (I hate the 'it's all scripted' mentality, but you get the metaphor)

It's similar to to Rated RKO getting heel heat for injuring Triple H, when in actuality it had little to nothing to do with either one of them

EDIT: Sorry,didn't mean to rant and there's no offense intended, just don't think it's fair to call it legitimate

I think it would be fair because Inoki was legitimately knocked out, which is something that so rarely happens in any kind of a match, and when you consider that the Japanese press (if Foley's first book is to be believed) treats the entire sportt as Kayfabe magazines here would, then yes, that's as close to a legitimate wining of a championship in the pros as you'll ever see.

[WarriorWarrior]

My god, will you stop with the HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Its gettin really annoying now

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thedude said:

My god, will you stop with the HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Its gettin really annoying now

Yes, this has EASILY run its course.

[The Boss]

justinothervictim said:

theboss said:

warwolf said:

.....making him the only wrestler to legitimately win a world title.

dude that is crazy logic

I've not seen the match, so I dunno, but from your description it sounds to me like either Hogan waxed up, knocking the guy off the apron when he wasn't ready, or Inoki waxed up and landed wrong

either way, how anyone could count that as a 'legit' win is beyond me, it's not like they were having a legitimate fight, were they?

Or even if Hogan had 'gone into business for himself' as it were and started shooting on the guy

It was just a mistake that the company had to cover up, in essence they 'rewrote the script' (I hate the 'it's all scripted' mentality, but you get the metaphor)

You are correct in that they did screw up. HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN slammed into Inoki so hard that Inoki was unable to hold onto the rope and was knocked off the apron. He was out of control, feet up in the air as he landed and hit the ground head first knocking himself unconscious.

The reason that I call this a legit win is because the match was stopped because Inoki was KOed legitimately. Since this was before kayfabe was broken they had no choice but to award the match as well as the title (this was a tournament final) to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Yes it was an accident (Inoki was scheduled to win) but it was legit. Therefore HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is the only man to legitimately win a World title.

It's similar to to Rated RKO getting heel heat for injuring Triple H, when in actuality it had little to nothing to do with either one of them

The difference is that nothing came from that. If it weren't for the fact that this was the finals to declare the first IWGP World champion the victory would have no historical significance. But HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was awarded the title because he legitimately injured Inoki.

If it happened today now that kayfabe is broken they would just stop the match and explain it on the next show. But in the days of kayfabe this was not possible.

EDIT: Sorry,didn't mean to rant and there's no offense intended, just don't think it's fair to call it legitimate

No problem. That's what debates are for.

[B.A.]

I'm tempted to call this one a troll

[Citizen Snips]

"This is the most bumped thread in the history of our board!!!"-HOLLYWOOD TONY SCHIAVONE

[MGH]

dothebird said:

"This is the most bumped thread in the history of our board!!!"-HOLLYWOOD TONY SCHIAVONE

Ugh, tell me about it. Wait for it, I'm sure the other couple will soon follow like always.

[Warwolf]

theboss said:

justinothervictim said:

You are correct in that they did screw up. HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN slammed into Inoki so hard that Inoki was unable to hold onto the rope and was knocked off the apron. He was out of control, feet up in the air as he landed and hit the ground head first knocking himself unconscious.

The reason that I call this a legit win is because the match was stopped because Inoki was KOed legitimately. Since this was before kayfabe was broken they had no choice but to award the match as well as the title (this was a tournament final) to HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. Yes it was an accident (Inoki was scheduled to win) but it was legit. Therefore HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is the only man to legitimately win a World title.



The difference is that nothing came from that. If it weren't for the fact that this was the finals to declare the first IWGP World champion the victory would have no historical significance. But HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was awarded the title because he legitimately injured Inoki.

If it happened today now that kayfabe is broken they would just stop the match and explain it on the next show. But in the days of kayfabe this was not possible.

EDIT: Sorry,didn't mean to rant and there's no offense intended, just don't think it's fair to call it legitimate

No problem. That's what debates are for.

Seriously dude. I'm a lifelong Hogan fan myself. but you nmeed to stop putting his name...or any variation of it, in all caps. It's even starting to bug me.

[KimberlyPagesBoyToy]

OMG of course The Sandman! They both have similar move numbers (Hogans got punches big boot and legdrop, Sandmans got cane shots, russian leg sweep, and legdrop) Sandman hits Hogan in the head with the cane only for Hogan to Hulk up no selling the cane shots. That would be awesome actually!

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

I swear if this thread ends up on Page 1 one more time, I'm gonna club this baby seal.

[The G.O.A.T.]

who bumped this? i thought it was already locked twice???

[WarriorWarrior]

Will someone ban this sucka?

[The Boss]

roderickisstrong said:

OMG of course The Sandman! They both have similar move numbers (Hogans got punches big boot and legdrop, Sandmans got cane shots, russian leg sweep, and legdrop) Sandman hits Hogan in the head with the cane only for Hogan to Hulk up no selling the cane shots. That would be awesome actually!

Thanks for getting this thread back on topic.

Sandman is another great choice. It just goes to show you that ECW was never about never about how many moves you used. It was about blood and violence. There is no doubt in my mind that HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN could wrestle a great ECW match.

[Chris Decker-The Wild Rover]

sorry thread............you gonna have to die

*shoots thread old yeller style*


naw never mind

*shoots thread full metal jacket style*

thaaaaaats better

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

The only, and I mean ONLY way I would have EVER bought Hogan in ECW is as a snotty heel, "winking" at all the smarks in the crowd by doing his old routine, posedowns, and low impact offense, and playing off their boos.

[The Boss]

godz said:

The only, and I mean ONLY way I would have EVER bought Hogan in ECW is as a snotty heel, "winking" at all the smarks in the crowd by doing his old routine, posedowns, and low impact offense, and playing off their boos.

Are you honestly saying that you wouldn't want to see HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN involved in some serious bloodbath matches where anything goes? Full fledged brawls that had nothing to do with wrestling and everything to do with butt kicking. That way those critics don't have to worry about how many moves are used and fans can cheer wildly as the blood flows.