incident between Masters and Taker during house sh

[EvilMasterBetty, Esq.]

Um...I just want to add Taker doesn't chop, and can't wearing those gloves, so what should he have done instead?

The whole story was probably overblown. Taker probably threw a few stiff shots, probably caught his nose wrong and broke it, and Masters, being gassed from not knowing how to work around having his nose broken, probably slipped up and separated his elbow.

As for the whole stiffing rookies, yes it's not a "sport" but that's how it goes. All of the "legends" went through this same stuff and are praised for being some of the best, and yet we want to see guys pampered on the way up and just talk to them and be nice to them and we complain the quality of the new guys are poor? Maybe the tough training gives them an appreciation for the art and forces them to try harder.

I agree with what Godz and co. were saying. Wrestling's always been that way, and hopefully it remains that way to an extent. It's the only way to weed out those who are committed and those who are not.

[Mr. Mediocre]

I don't know...Holly just seemed to be beating the piss out of Cody, but I'll be honest -- the way it looks right now is that it's a storyline thing.

As for Puder, that was definitely a storyline. The Punk thing was not, as there was no storyline reason for Finlay and Holly to try and beat the piss out of Punk.

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

explodinglimo said:

I don't know...Holly just seemed to be beating the piss out of Cody, but I'll be honest -- the way it looks right now is that it's a storyline thing.

As for Puder, that was definitely a storyline. The Punk thing was not, as there was no storyline reason for Finlay and Holly to try and beat the piss out of Punk.

Were Holly and Punk not still feuding around this time?

[Mr. Mediocre]

godz said:

explodinglimo said:

I don't know...Holly just seemed to be beating the piss out of Cody, but I'll be honest -- the way it looks right now is that it's a storyline thing.

As for Puder, that was definitely a storyline. The Punk thing was not, as there was no storyline reason for Finlay and Holly to try and beat the piss out of Punk.

Were Holly and Punk not still feuding around this time?

They were. That doesn't really account for Finlay, though.

EDIT: You know what...never mind that comment. Two seconds of thought...Finlay loves to fight. Duh.

So I withdraw the Punk comment.

[Hiroshi Hase]

godz said:

explodinglimo said:

I don't know...Holly just seemed to be beating the piss out of Cody, but I'll be honest -- the way it looks right now is that it's a storyline thing.

As for Puder, that was definitely a storyline. The Punk thing was not, as there was no storyline reason for Finlay and Holly to try and beat the piss out of Punk.

Were Holly and Punk not still feuding around this time?

And was this even reported? As I don't remember ever hearing about it. Yeah Finlay and Punk had some exchanges at the Rumble, but apart from that I didn't see anything that was categorized as beating the piss out of Punk.

[D2: Sweet & Sour Edition]

Taker has more job security than most of the entire company. If he wants to beat the shit out of people, he can. They won't do anything to him.

Hell, if he wanted, he could have probably broken Master's arm in three places, and all that would happen is they would go "C'mon Mark. No more broken arms."

[Maxnificent]

So, how differently would things be said if the apparent demi-gods London and Kendrick were in the place of Masters?

[Hiroshi Hase]

maxnificent said:

So, how differently would things be said if the apparent demi-gods London and Kendrick were in the place of Masters?

Then I suppose Taker would be hated, and suddenly a whole bunch of "Taker sucks" posts/threads would turn up.

[nealo]

masteers should ofdoen his jonb to be fair

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

maxnificent said:

So, how differently would things be said if the apparent demi-gods London and Kendrick were in the place of Masters?

Taker would be accused of racism and homophobia and there would be 12 online petitions demanding his release.

If it was Punk, there would be attempts on his life.

[Joekishi]

I'm all for this type of bullying if Masters doesn't complain and takes it in stride he's elevated

if he continues the attitude he deserves what he's got coming to him

[Joekishi]

chuckymac314 said:

joeman said:

So it is ok for Undertaker to beat up inexperienced wrestlers yet Holly is considered a felon for doing the same?

Not in my eyes, it's just that Holly is a more frequent offender than 'Taker. Taker was in the right, if incredibly unprofessional, but this is the first time in a LOOOONG time I've heard of him doing this.

Typical hypocritical post.

Holly does it more than once and he's lauded for it.

Taker does the exact same thing and you have nothing but praise for him.

That's bs, Taker did this and I support it, but dude stick to your guns when you say "these things shouldn't happen" It just makes all your holly post completely irrellevant when you say that what Taker did was okay in context.

Bah.

[Maxnificent]

I can just sum up everything easily. Being under 220 pounds or Canadian, English, or Japanese makes you a god. Having muscles makes you a worthless excuse of a human being who should be executed. Anything that's popular or on top sucks.

Taking them a while to think of an excuse I see...

[Maxnificent]

Typical reponse to my last reply...take your pick...
1. Uninspired picture of someone making a stupid face
2. Simply typing "...."
3. Saying something like "I won't even dignify that with a response..."
4. A trip back to middle school with jokes about Bobby Lashley and feces.

Just once I'd like to see an actual attempt at defense.

[Hiroshi Hase]

maxnificent said:

Typical reponse to my last reply...take your pick...
1. Uninspired picture of someone making a stupid face
2. Simply typing "...."
3. Saying something like "I won't even dignify that with a response..."
4. A trip back to middle school with jokes about Bobby Lashley and feces.

Just once I'd like to see an actual attempt at defense.

Maybe a "Bathturd" joke or two,even though he didn't even say that.

[Maxnificent]

My mistake, I forgot one.
5. If you don't like saying everything sucks and that Triple H burns babies and small animals to death, leave.

[Mr. Mediocre]

godz said:

maxnificent said:

So, how differently would things be said if the apparent demi-gods London and Kendrick were in the place of Masters?

Taker would be accused of racism and homophobia and there would be 12 online petitions demanding his release.

If it was Punk, there would be attempts on his life.

Well, to be fair, Punk would never no-sell the Undertaker unless it was part of an angle (i.e. his heel turn in ROH), so it's kind of a moot point.

[Hiroshi Hase]

explodinglimo said:

godz said:

Taker would be accused of racism and homophobia and there would be 12 online petitions demanding his release.

If it was Punk, there would be attempts on his life.

Well, to be fair, Punk would never no-sell the Undertaker unless it was part of an angle (i.e. his heel turn in ROH), so it's kind of a moot point.

Even then, I don't think he would as Punk was never known for that anyways.

[Mr. Mediocre]

maxnificent said:

I can just sum up everything easily. Being under 220 pounds or Canadian, English, or Japanese makes you a god. Having muscles makes you a worthless excuse of a human being who should be executed. Anything that's popular or on top sucks.

Taking them a while to think of an excuse I see...

Or actually, the thing is that those guys can actually wrestle. CM Punk, London, Kendrick, etc. they can all put on a good match. Which is why the hypothetical of any of them no-selling anyone, especially an established respected vet like the Undertaker, is ludicrous.

[Maxnificent]

So someone getting stiffed is ok if they don't do flips, but if it were to happen to a crusierweight, runs for the hills. I see.