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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 25, 2007 23:01:28 GMT -5
Mike Awesome: Should been a huge star. But WCW screwed him and the WWE didn't push him. But the man did a lot of amazing moves for his size.
Vader: He should been huge for a long time in the US. But ever sense Hogan killed his push in WCW he never recovered. He should bee a mega star today.
Matt Morgan: He is going to show the WWE I think very soon once he starts wrestling in TNA. The Stuttering gimmick was stupided on the WWE part. He will be the guy that going to prove the point that the WWE can also misuse talent.
Now others I saw listed I think your mistaken.
Tomko and Benerad (A Train): They weren't misused. These guys went to japan and improved greatly. When in the WWE they were not this good there. They learned a lot on japan and because of that they improved in talent.
Nathan Jones: He wasn't misused at all. He wasn't even that good. Wasn't a green card problem on why he not in the WWE. I thought there was a story about the WWE went to Aust. and he quit and said there because he didn't like the WWE travel schedule.
Giant Silva: I don't know if anybody can really say how bad he was. From what I recall he never had a singles TV match did he during his WWE run? I've seen his work in Japan and yes he is better in ring then Khali. But I don't know if he was this good in his WWE days. He can at less move and take bumps. I don't think he has any less talent then Kevin Nash does as for as in ring goes.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Oct 25, 2007 23:02:33 GMT -5
Uve always liked rhyno. I always felt he was trying a half step harder than the other guy. Rhyno isnt really big though. Hes short and a little bit of a chunker |
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Post by Bring Back Slick on Oct 26, 2007 0:48:19 GMT -5
Sean O' Haire is my pick, without a doubt. They totally wasted his talent...he possessed a good look, an interesting gimmick, and was ridiculously agile for a man his size.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Oct 26, 2007 1:11:06 GMT -5
I agree that they screwed up on Mike Awesome. It looked like there was going to be a push during the Invasion (remember, there was an ECW battle royal on Raw that had Awesome bombing Dreamer over the top rope through a table to a HUGE crowd reaction), then again after One Night Stand (with that great match with Masato Tanaka). Then... nothing.
I also second O'Hare. In WCW he was just a big kid, but his "you know you want to" gimmick on Smackdown was great.
I also pick Mike Shaw. A hell of a worker way back in Stampede Wrestling, but he gets to the big time and gets... Norman the Lunatic? Friar Ferguson? Bastion Booger?
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Post by thesunbeast on Oct 26, 2007 1:49:37 GMT -5
I say that you have a better chance of making it big when you're bigger, but as far as making as the "cream of the crop", you know, the flagship, the golden goose, the measuring stick, the guy that the company is going to be built around, chances are it's going to be a more mainstream, average sized, "in the middle" type of guy with alot of charisma and talent.
In the era where guys like Big John Studd, Bam Bam Bigelo, King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang, and Andre the Giant "made it" because of their size, as well as bodybuilder-esque guys like Herculese, Warrior, and Rick Rude, It was Hogan who was leading the pack.
In an era where guys like Diesel, Undertaker, Vader, Yokozuna, Bam Bam Bigelo, King Kong Bundy, Kama, and Sycho Sid "made it" because of their size, and bodybuilder-esque guys like Ahmed Johnson, Lex Luger, and Warrior, It was Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels who were leading the pack.
In an era where guys like Kane, Undertaker, Sid, Viscera, LOD, Big Show, Rikishi, "made it" because of their size, and bodybuilder-esque guys like Bulldog and HHH, It was Stone Cold leading the pack.
In an era where guys like Undertaker, Kane, Snitsky, Umaga, Mark Henry, Boogeyman, Khali, Kevin Thorn, and Big Daddy V have "made it" because of their size, and bodybuilder-esque guys like Chris Masters, It's John Cena that's the leader of the pack. This is the first time that bodybuilder-esque guys like Lashley and Batista have been given a chance to run with the ball and actually stay with it, as well as HHH earlier, but that's because Rock and Austin left.
See, The big, "freak of nature" type guys are a good challenge for the "mainstream" guy to overcome. That's why they're there. They're something different to look st. So yes, If you're 7ft tall and 350 lbs, you'll have an eiser time getting a job with WWE, but that's all you'll basically have, is a spot on the roster. If you want to be the guy winning the main event of Wrestlemania for multiple years, and you want to be the guy that's carrying the company on it's back for many years, you better not be 7ft tall and 350 lbs.
Anyway, guys that I think WWE could have used better that were huge were Nathan Jones and Matt Morgan. I think a bodybuilder-esque guy that would have been good was Sean O'haire, just not with the name "O'Haire". he could have been doing what Batista is doing now, or he could have had a program with Batista.
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Post by thesunbeast on Oct 26, 2007 1:53:36 GMT -5
Mike Awesome: Should been a huge star. But WCW screwed him and the WWE didn't push him. But the man did a lot of amazing moves for his size. Vader: He should been huge for a long time in the US. But ever sense Hogan killed his push in WCW he never recovered. He should bee a mega star today. Matt Morgan: He is going to show the WWE I think very soon once he starts wrestling in TNA. The Stuttering gimmick was stupided on the WWE part. He will be the guy that going to prove the point that the WWE can also misuse talent. Now others I saw listed I think your mistaken. Tomko and Benerad (A Train): They weren't misused. These guys went to japan and improved greatly. When in the WWE they were not this good there. They learned a lot on japan and because of that they improved in talent. Nathan Jones: He wasn't misused at all. He wasn't even that good. Wasn't a green card problem on why he not in the WWE. I thought there was a story about the WWE went to Aust. and he quit and said there because he didn't like the WWE travel schedule. Giant Silva: I don't know if anybody can really say how bad he was. From what I recall he never had a singles TV match did he during his WWE run? I've seen his work in Japan and yes he is better in ring then Khali. But I don't know if he was this good in his WWE days. He can at less move and take bumps. I don't think he has any less talent then Kevin Nash does as for as in ring goes. Giant Siva has improved by leaps and bounds. I mean LEAPS AND BOUNDS. I posted a match with him vs Khali in Japan, and the match was great. |
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Post by steenerico on Oct 26, 2007 1:58:39 GMT -5
Kamala
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Post by I Graduated Warrior University on Oct 26, 2007 4:02:49 GMT -5
I'm going to have to go with the majority here and vote Mike Awesome! Mike Awesome is quite possibly the most under-rated wrestler of the past 20 years, I think Larry Zbysko was spot on when he would refer to Awesome as a "300lbs Juvi" when Awesome would bust out his plancha, and no disrespect to Eddie and Art Barr, but I think the "Awesome Splash" was the best variation of the Frog Splash.
Also, WCW screwed up ROYALLY when they didn't elevate Bob Sapp to the main roster after his Power Plant training was over.
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Post by Joekishi on Oct 26, 2007 4:13:02 GMT -5
Sean O' Haire is my pick, without a doubt. They totally wasted his talent...he possessed a good look, an interesting gimmick, and was ridiculously agile for a man his size. but he sucked in the ring and really was overrated because he did a few leaps in WCW he had potential, but he turned into a crappier wrestler than goldberg |
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Post by joeman on Oct 26, 2007 10:37:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Mike Awesome really. Considering all his personal problems. Vader could have been better used than he was. I will say they missed the boat on A-train. Not only that, but you had Paul Heyman wanting Mike Awesome out during the Invasion. Seriously, Awesome should take the blame for backstabbing his old boss and jumping to another brand. |
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Post by joeman on Oct 26, 2007 10:39:29 GMT -5
Uve always liked rhyno. I always felt he was trying a half step harder than the other guy. Rhyno is like 5'8. He is lucky to be considered a mini-hoss. |
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 26, 2007 10:40:43 GMT -5
Vader, hands down. Although I guess I could see if maybe Vince didn't like his stiff style.
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Post by joeman on Oct 26, 2007 10:45:20 GMT -5
Vader, hands down. Although I guess I could see if maybe Vince didn't like his stiff style. It wasn't that, it was Vince wanting to bury a major WCW star just to make WWE look superior. Good tactic at the time, since they were at war with them. Sadly Vader deserved better. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 26, 2007 10:50:30 GMT -5
Scott "Flash" Norton.
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Post by VeggieOverlord on Oct 26, 2007 10:59:47 GMT -5
Vader, Awesome, Bam Bam Bigelow. In that order. Could've all been huge if the E just let them do what made them noteworthy.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 26, 2007 11:03:14 GMT -5
I've gotta agree here. Norton was a very underrated power guy. I guess he didn't really have the charisma to take it to the higher levels, but his ability was never really used to it's potential. I remember him carrying Ice Train to a pretty damn good match, for pete's sake. |
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Post by Joker on Oct 26, 2007 11:04:26 GMT -5
Scott Norton was a decent Big man. They should have got him, could have been a solid uppercard guy for them.
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Post by maxx420 on Oct 26, 2007 11:10:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Mike Awesome really. Considering all his personal problems. Vader could have been better used than he was. I will say they missed the boat on A-train. Not only that, but you had Paul Heyman wanting Mike Awesome out during the Invasion. Seriously, Awesome should take the blame for backstabbing his old boss and jumping to another brand. Yeah, what a jerk... wanting to pay his bills & all...  Awesome was owed tons of money by Heyman & actually refused to dump the ECW belt in the trash on Nitro (even though Uncle Eric requested that he do so). |
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Post by joeman on Oct 26, 2007 11:13:08 GMT -5
Not only that, but you had Paul Heyman wanting Mike Awesome out during the Invasion. Seriously, Awesome should take the blame for backstabbing his old boss and jumping to another brand. Yeah, what a jerk... wanting to pay his bills & all... Awesome was owed tons of money by Heyman & actually refused to dump the ECW belt in the trash on Nitro (even though Uncle Eric requested that he do so). IIRC, there was plans already between ECW and WCW where Awesome would go to WCW and wrestle there. Awesome didn't follow the original plan and that is why Paul hated him so much. |
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Post by valiens on Oct 26, 2007 11:14:03 GMT -5
Misused Rhyno. Never used Abdullah The Butcher.
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