Carlito unhappy

[The F'N Captain]

daytondude said:

Most of you are letting the creative team off the hook in this case. How are you supposed to be motivated when you're giving no defined role or storyline in the company. Two months ago Carlito is in a quasi-high profile feud with Triple H. Now he's jobbing to rookies like DH Smith.

And it's not about position within the company. Someone like Jim Duggan or Funaki don't complain about their position because they know it's their job to open the show and generate that initial pop from the crowd. It's not glamorous, but they know they're role.

But when you get jerked around like Carlito (and many others like him do), it has to get frustrating. Why do anything more than the motions when you're in the ring when you're given no story to tell?

For too long the writing staff has only developed storyline for the main event stars (and even those storylines are pretty flimsy), while the rest of the staff are thrown out there as filler.

Look at Matt and Jeff Hardy. They work hard every week and where has it gotten them. Maybe Carlito just sees the writing on the wall and isn't afraid to voice his opinions.

Just checking, are you saying Matt and Jeff aren't getting anywhere? Cause Matt's probably the third most over guy on Smackdown!, and in line for the US title while Jeff has the IC title AND was close to wrestling Orton for the belt. They're doing pretty damn well for thier efforts.

I agree with the earlier sentiment that Carlito might have an "entitlement" problem. He thinks he's owed things he has to work for.

[Mozenrath]

sexualwalking said:

daytondude said:

Most of you are letting the creative team off the hook in this case. How are you supposed to be motivated when you're giving no defined role or storyline in the company. Two months ago Carlito is in a quasi-high profile feud with Triple H. Now he's jobbing to rookies like DH Smith.

And it's not about position within the company. Someone like Jim Duggan or Funaki don't complain about their position because they know it's their job to open the show and generate that initial pop from the crowd. It's not glamorous, but they know they're role.

But when you get jerked around like Carlito (and many others like him do), it has to get frustrating. Why do anything more than the motions when you're in the ring when you're given no story to tell?

For too long the writing staff has only developed storyline for the main event stars (and even those storylines are pretty flimsy), while the rest of the staff are thrown out there as filler.

Look at Matt and Jeff Hardy. They work hard every week and where has it gotten them. Maybe Carlito just sees the writing on the wall and isn't afraid to voice his opinions.

Just checking, are you saying Matt and Jeff aren't getting anywhere? Cause Matt's probably the third most over guy on Smackdown!, and in line for the US title while Jeff has the IC title AND was close to wrestling Orton for the belt. They're doing pretty damn well for thier efforts.

I agree with the earlier sentiment that Carlito might have an "entitlement" problem. He thinks he's owed things he has to work for.

I think he's owed a little more than he gets currently.

The dude needs to be on Smackdown. Raw does nothing for him.

[The F'N Captain]

kiddobradley said:

sexualwalking said:

Just checking, are you saying Matt and Jeff aren't getting anywhere? Cause Matt's probably the third most over guy on Smackdown!, and in line for the US title while Jeff has the IC title AND was close to wrestling Orton for the belt. They're doing pretty damn well for thier efforts.

I agree with the earlier sentiment that Carlito might have an "entitlement" problem. He thinks he's owed things he has to work for.

I think he's owed a little more than he gets currently.

The dude needs to be on Smackdown. Raw does nothing for him.

His bigest problem, and let's say he IS trying, is that he comes off as a guy with no fire in his belly. he never seems angry or excited about anything.

[Mozenrath]

sexualwalking said:

kiddobradley said:

I think he's owed a little more than he gets currently.

The dude needs to be on Smackdown. Raw does nothing for him.

His bigest problem, and let's say he IS trying, is that he comes off as a guy with no fire in his belly. he never seems angry or excited about anything.

You may have a point. He needs an angle to show a genuine mean or cruel streak in him.

The one with Flair was a start, but something where he crosses the line. He should of stole the Figure Four for himself.

[kitsunestar]

thomasrigby said:

I'll throw a wrench in and defend Carlito - I actually believe that due to the fact that WWE wants everyone to work the exact same style, and Carlito is thus able to do so very effortlessly, it thus seems like he isn't giving his all. Which is true, because he doesn't have to to work "WWE Style." And it's BS, as (off topic) their policy of robbing everyone's uniqueness is so counterproductive that it's vaguely comedic.

I can see where Carlito is angry.

But everyone HAS to be the same so that the undercard can't outwrestle the main eventers! Hasn't Vince taught us ANYTHING?

[BoilerRoomBrawler]

Why not pull the same trick a third time?

Have Carlito debut on ECW with new music and modified ring gear and have him defeat the champion (right now, CM Punk) and start a program between the two; it might even put some life into ECW.

[Mozenrath]

boilerroombrawler said:

Why not pull the same trick a third time?

Have Carlito debut on ECW with new music and modified ring gear and have him defeat the champion (right now, CM Punk) and start a program between the two; it might even put some life into ECW.

ECW's main event scene is full of heels at the moment. They need a face.

Carlito as a face without raping his persona would work. Just have him get in Miz's face and spit the apple. Instant face, quote me on it.

[poi zen rana]

sexualwalking said:

kiddobradley said:

I think he's owed a little more than he gets currently.

The dude needs to be on Smackdown. Raw does nothing for him.

His bigest problem, and let's say he IS trying, is that he comes off as a guy with no fire in his belly. he never seems angry or excited about anything.

but that would counter act his gimmick of being cool. i always thought he pulled off his cool gimmick well. i didn't realize it made him lazy.

[Dick Foley]

Maybe its just me but, I think Carlito sucks. Whenever he is given a chance to shine he seems to flub it up with a bad match or a lackluster promo. Plus, the company has too many guys speaking with an accent. Carlito should drop the accent, cut the afro and be a badass. I cannot take someone seriously then they wear that shirt either.

[poi zen rana]

jcmark611 said:

Carlito should drop the accent, cut the afro and be a badass. I cannot take someone seriously then they wear that shirt either.

or maybe he should do what creative tells him to do. if you were trying to suggest that creative give him a character shake up that makes sense, but carlito is doing as told.

[Mozenrath]

poisonrana said:

sexualwalking said:

His bigest problem, and let's say he IS trying, is that he comes off as a guy with no fire in his belly. he never seems angry or excited about anything.

but that would counter act his gimmick of being cool. i always thought he pulled off his cool gimmick well. i didn't realize it made him lazy.

True, he's "cool" but it'd help him to show him lose his cool and go wild on someone.

The Backstabber is still a great finisher for him.

[poi zen rana]

kiddobradley said:

poisonrana said:

but that would counter act his gimmick of being cool. i always thought he pulled off his cool gimmick well. i didn't realize it made him lazy.

True, he's "cool" but it'd help him to show him lose his cool and go wild on someone.

The Backstabber is still a great finisher for him.

yeah going wild all of a sudden would be cool but i think he should wait until he is actually being pushed. lately his job has basically been enhancement talent, nothing wrong with that but his job is more to make other people look good than to snap and get people behind him.

i love the backstabber. i would really enjoy him hitting the straight jacketed version that john walters used. especially how walters could chain multiple ones together that way.

[Mozenrath]

poisonrana said:

kiddobradley said:

True, he's "cool" but it'd help him to show him lose his cool and go wild on someone.

The Backstabber is still a great finisher for him.

yeah going wild all of a sudden would be cool but i think he should wait until he is actually being pushed. lately his job has basically been enhancement talent, nothing wrong with that but his job is more to make other people look good than to snap and get people behind him.

i love the backstabber. i would really enjoy him hitting the straight jacketed version that john walters used. especially how walters could chain multiple ones together that way.

I think a great face turn would be to have him talking to Miz, and Miz spits the apple in his face. Carlito then tackles him, brawling until he puts him through a table.

That finisher sounds awesome. I'd love to see if he can.

[The F'N Captain]

poisonrana said:

sexualwalking said:

His bigest problem, and let's say he IS trying, is that he comes off as a guy with no fire in his belly. he never seems angry or excited about anything.

but that would counter act his gimmick of being cool. i always thought he pulled off his cool gimmick well. i didn't realize it made him lazy.

That's the problem with being too laid back and being a heel. A good guy can be mellow and laid back and have success(Jeff Hardy, RVD, Rikishi) but most fans want thier heels to be annoyingly cocky, outright jerks, or to the most extreme downright evil. Laid back heels make decent henchmen(Tomko, for example), but can't function alone and get any real heat.

[CM Punk's Favorite Boobs]

Carlito can pull out a good match when he wants, but mostly he's just stale. He's either always unhappy or in the dog house for being a DB. Nothing new...

[Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla)]

They jobbed out shelton to push carlito...they jobbed out carlito to push jeff hardy.

It looked like for a minute carlito would be gaining some more momentum but hes been jobbing and jobbing since he beat cena.

[Mozenrath]

akkilla said:

They jobbed out shelton to push carlito...they jobbed out carlito to push jeff hardy.

It looked like for a minute carlito would be gaining some more momentum but hes been jobbing and jobbing since he beat cena.

It seems that way.

I still contend him and Kennedy do not need to be on the same show, or if they are, they need to be in cahoots.

[DrewVonAwesome]

radioclash5150 said:

I wouldn't mind seeing him in ECW either.

Maybe a change of brand would spark something, because he needs it.

Considering how Booker took to that idea... and who exactly were talking about here. He'd probably complain about it. Still a good idea though.

[Mozenrath]

magicallystoopid said:

radioclash5150 said:

I wouldn't mind seeing him in ECW either.

Maybe a change of brand would spark something, because he needs it.

Considering how Booker took to that idea... and who exactly were talking about here. He'd probably complain about it. Still a good idea though.

It'd be a promotion from what he does now.

[Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla)]

I think either another try at a face run (based off the msg pops) on smackdown or a heel ecw run would suit carlito.