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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 18, 2007 16:32:50 GMT -5
I have actually become a mark for Beth Phoenix. I find her to be a pleasant breath of fresh air compared to the rest of the women in the WWE right now. However, it is clear that a lot of people do not agree with me. She receives little, if any, reaction from the crowds. She does not seem to have gotten over at all as a heel. So just what is wrong with her?
The only flaw I can find is that Beth is rather bland on the microphone. Her ring skills are solid, but she just does not have the kind of charisma to really get under the fan's skin and make them boo her. Though, I might add that the constant repeating of the phrase "glamazon" has probably not helped her popularity at all.
I'll also say that I think the character she has been pushed as is kind of bland. A beautiful woman who kicks ass is something that has already been played over a thousand times. She really needs some unique twist to help set her apart.
Anyone else got any ideas of what is keeping her from getting over, or whats more, ideas for how to change it?
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 18, 2007 16:34:23 GMT -5
I'm Beth Phoenix reporting, back to you!
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 16:39:50 GMT -5
She's pushed too much like the new Chyna, has zero charisma compared to some of the otehr women who can arguably work better than her. i.e. Mickie James and Victoria
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 18, 2007 16:45:22 GMT -5
To be honest, despite them emphasising her differences, she is like every other barbie doll diva...just with twenty pounds of extra muscle.
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Post by B-Eazy on Nov 18, 2007 16:47:52 GMT -5
Also she doesn't have near the sex appeal as alot of other girls.
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 18, 2007 16:51:27 GMT -5
Glamazon, Glamazon, Glamazon, Glamazon, Glamazon. JR and King just run it into the ground and it annoys me.
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Post by skiller on Nov 18, 2007 16:52:46 GMT -5
I think people just have trouble getting in the appropiate mood when her porno entrance music hits.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 18, 2007 16:54:01 GMT -5
I think the promo she gave after she won the title at No Mercy didn't really help her character, plus not many of the live fans buy her as a heel. Plus most know who's winning the belt from her.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 16:55:26 GMT -5
I think the promo she gave after she won the title at No Mercy didn't really help her character, plus not many of the live fans buy her as a heel. Plus most know who's winning the belt from her. Hervina is coming back?
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Post by Legion on Nov 18, 2007 17:00:24 GMT -5
I think it's more she came from no where. She needs some vt time and some build up. If she cant do it heself, get in a mouthpiece. Harvey Wimpleman is a possibility, Jimmy Hart and a new First Family may be better.
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Post by Bishblast on Nov 18, 2007 17:02:06 GMT -5
She doesn't seem too bad on the mic, she's definitely better than most of the other women workers in the company.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 18, 2007 17:03:18 GMT -5
I think she was pushed to the top of the women's division too quickly. If they would have had a month or two Mickie James feud before going for the title, I think she'd get more of a reaction.
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Post by Batman on Nov 18, 2007 17:21:22 GMT -5
Well, she is a woman so there is already a ceiling on how over she can be.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Nov 18, 2007 17:22:23 GMT -5
I've done a complete 180 with her. Back when she 1st came on RAW I didnt find her attractive and wasnt really a fan but since she's become the glamazon I really have begun liking her. She's got a much better entrance song now rather than the other one which reeked of babyface music even though she was a heel when she had it.
The thing might be that no one save for Mickie or Vickie looks like a credible threat to her so its just a foregone conclusion that she's gonna squash a diva assuming Mickie isnt in th ering when her music plays.
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Post by nealo on Nov 18, 2007 17:23:59 GMT -5
i thk shes hot in scary way
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 18, 2007 17:30:11 GMT -5
I've done a complete 180 with her. Back when she 1st came on RAW I didnt find her attractive and wasnt really a fan but since she's become the glamazon I really have begun liking her. She's got a much better entrance song now rather than the other one which reeked of babyface music even though she was a heel when she had it. The thing might be that no one save for Mickie or Vickie looks like a credible threat to her so its just a foregone conclusion that she's gonna squash a diva assuming Mickie isnt in th ering when her music plays. Exactly. She IS over as a monster heel in that they know she'll win. She does get the "ohhs" and "ahhs" for her moves, and all. It's just they haven't presented her with a threat yet.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 18, 2007 17:36:41 GMT -5
It's cuz even when you hear her callin you can't come home right now cuz you and the boys are playin' And you just can't find the sound
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Post by casualobserver on Nov 18, 2007 17:40:36 GMT -5
Make her the Dump Matsumoto of the WWE. Not make her as *ahem* big-boned but maybe as vicious.
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Post by Nan Flanagan on Nov 18, 2007 17:41:20 GMT -5
She's pushed too much like the new Chyna, has zero charisma compared to some of the otehr women who can arguably work better than her. i.e. Mickie James and Victoria And you wonder why I won't share my crackers with you.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 17:42:25 GMT -5
Our opinions on female wrestlers should not get in the way of our love for each other and crackers
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