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Post by Nan Flanagan on Nov 18, 2007 17:45:18 GMT -5
You ole charmer Beth is superior to all.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 18, 2007 17:47:43 GMT -5
It's cuz even when you hear her callin you can't come home right now cuz you and the boys are playin' And you just can't find the sound Nice. Anyway, they should put her over some male jobbers to spice it up. Hell, I'd be for a match against Brian Kendrick where he sold for her, and barely managed a win.
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Post by Lionheart on Nov 18, 2007 17:55:08 GMT -5
It's cuz even when you hear her callin you can't come home right now cuz you and the boys are playin' And you just can't find the sound Nice. Anyway, they should put her over some male jobbers to spice it up. Hell, I'd be for a match against Brian Kendrick where he sold for her, and barely managed a win. That would only put her further into Chyna territory.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 18, 2007 17:59:41 GMT -5
Nice. Anyway, they should put her over some male jobbers to spice it up. Hell, I'd be for a match against Brian Kendrick where he sold for her, and barely managed a win. That would only put her further into Chyna territory. Chyna was really over, though. Besides, Chyna was just fine as a heel. It's when they made her a face and gave her mic time that it all sucked. Also, Chyna never put anyone over in the Women's division. She should of gave Lita that one big win that would of really cemented her.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 18:05:16 GMT -5
You ole charmer Beth is superior to all. I disagree Mickie is number one with Beth a close third behind Victoria and thank you. I try
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 18, 2007 18:06:23 GMT -5
I'd contrast Beth with Amazing Kong.
Both have been booked in a similar fashion, but Kong is over. Arguably Kong has been built up too quickly as well, but that's hasn't stopped her. If Beth was good enough she could rise above the bad booking.
If the same booking works with Kong but not with Beth, you have to think Beth just doesn't have it.
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Post by Nan Flanagan on Nov 18, 2007 18:06:42 GMT -5
Mickie and Victoria are both incredibly talented women. But Beth is my #1
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 18, 2007 18:09:24 GMT -5
I'd contrast Beth with Amazing Kong. Both have been booked in a similar fashion, but Kong is over. Arguably Kong has been built up too quickly as well, but that's hasn't stopped her. If Beth was good enough she could rise above the bad booking. If the same booking works with Kong but not with Beth, you have to think Beth just doesn't have it. Not really, though. Beth is champ with no real contenders, while Kong at least has an opponent in Gail Kim. Also, Beth is more or less building up the women's division with no hype, while TNA pushed the hell out of the fact they were making one.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 18:10:21 GMT -5
Mickie and Victoria are both incredibly talented women. But Beth is my #1 And here was me hoping I was your number one
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Post by mrprofessionalx on Nov 18, 2007 18:15:23 GMT -5
I think it's a case of: you've seen one monster heel female destroy everyone in her path...you've basically seen them all. They did this with Chyna & Jazz in the past and now it's Beth's turn.
It gets old. That and really nobody gives a damn about the chicks she beats up. Despite what many on the internet thinks...it seems like very few in the crowds gives a damn about Maria and the others unless they're near naked or getting a beer bath.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 18, 2007 18:17:45 GMT -5
The crowd pops for Mickie, though, so they'd porbably sympathize with her.
Crowds in general are jaded nowadays, though.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 18, 2007 18:20:03 GMT -5
I think Maria has potential as a manager and doesn't HAVE to get naked or soaked in beer. Michelle McCool also has the potential othern than that the only workers they have are the three I've previously mentioned. Jazz didn't destroy everyone though. Jackie held her own as did Trish, Lita, Molly and others. When they booked Jazz the women's division was competetive. Now it's a bad joke
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 18, 2007 18:23:27 GMT -5
I think it's a case of: you've seen one monster heel female destroy everyone in her path...you've basically seen them all. They did this with Chyna & Jazz in the past and now it's Beth's turn. It gets old. That and really nobody gives a damn about the chicks she beats up. Despite what many on the internet thinks...it seems like very few in the crowds gives a damn about Maria and the others unless they're near naked or getting a beer bath. What he said. Also, I think the fans just want to see DX or Cena make an appearance and are waiting for the women's match to be done with, that's probably why they couldn't give a damn. Beth or any of the divas could do flips and talk on the mic for an hour and the fans still wouldn't pop unless they dropped their top.
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Post by krazysane on Nov 18, 2007 18:39:58 GMT -5
I know why people dont like Beth. She is married to Scoop Sullivan!
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Post by normcoleman on Nov 18, 2007 18:53:45 GMT -5
Chyna reincarnated and you know how much the crowd loved her.
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Post by Kae on Nov 18, 2007 19:00:10 GMT -5
I remember Chyna being over with the fans. It's hard to think of her as a credible wrestler, given what a trainwreck she has become, but she could get quite the reaction at one point.
I don't think the Beth/Kong comparison is fair, although I mark for both women equally. Kong hasn't been given the belt yet, after all. She's getting more of a build than Beth has. She also is in a much better-booked division. TNA has presented their women's wrestling as a serious division so far, rather than as an excuse for Playboy models and pudding fights. She ALSO has a lot of women with her who can work. Gail Kim, Miss Brooks, Nikki Roxx, etc. etc.
I liken Beth's lack of a reaction to the tag team division's lack of reaction. People don't really seem to care that much about London and Kendrick beyond the IWC. It's bad booking, not a problem with a person.
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Post by Ramses on Nov 18, 2007 19:34:41 GMT -5
i'd still climb her like a redwood FYI. But personaly, I think it's more of a "What the hell are these people in the IWC Making a big fuss about?" type of deals, a Reverse CM Punk if you will where the IWC killed the next big thing for women's wrestling.
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Post by TripleMerc on Nov 18, 2007 19:59:41 GMT -5
Beth is superior to all. Quoted for Truth. In fact, she's so superior, she's TOO good for the WWE.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Nov 18, 2007 20:13:17 GMT -5
It's cuz even when you hear her callin you can't come home right now cuz you and the boys are playin' And you just can't find the sound I spit Vanilla Coke all over my keyboard when I read this!!! Good one, $lim!
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Post by big nasty on Nov 18, 2007 20:18:55 GMT -5
yea, its more a question of "whats wrong with the WWE womens division?"
they arent booked as wrestlers so much as playboy models in waiting, as someone else put it. so why should anyone really care what they do in a ring.
they are all booked as sexy and hot. is every male character booked the same way? why would it make sense to book every woman that way. if they really cared about them being seen as credible wrestlers, they wouldnt.
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