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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 24, 2007 19:28:59 GMT -5
Hogan gaining the spotlight afterwards is to keep both sides EVEN. . The point of putting anyone over is that's it's not even. Hogan should have gone off without a fuss and let warrior take the spotlight. Possibly he would have failed as champion anyway. But you shouldn't try and screw the guy's reign seconds after it's started, No, that's not true. You have to catter to both Hogan fans and warrior fans in situations like that. When you have freddie vs Jason movies, you have to try not to dissapoint both fans of Freddie and fans of Jason. Long story short, What Hogan did at the end of the match is the equivelent of Freddie giving that little wink as jason was leaving with his head. If that makes freddie stand out too much, then Jason must not have drawing power. This isn't trying to destroy anything.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 24, 2007 19:29:14 GMT -5
The point of putting anyone over is that's it's not even. Hogan should have gone off without a fuss and let warrior take the spotlight. Possibly he would have failed as champion anyway. But you shouldn't try and screw the guy's reign seconds after it's started, How did he do that? Many times I've seen a former champion give the new champion the belt and raise his hand in a token of victory. It didn't hurt Warrior at all. Didn't Kurt Angle do the same exact thing for Brock Lesnar in 2003? But Hogan did with the intention of taking warrior's heat. When Kurt or anyone else has done its because they thought it was nice or a good idea or something. He's admitted his intent was to sabotage the start of warrior's reign, thus backstage politics do exist.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 24, 2007 19:31:08 GMT -5
How did he do that? Many times I've seen a former champion give the new champion the belt and raise his hand in a token of victory. It didn't hurt Warrior at all. Didn't Kurt Angle do the same exact thing for Brock Lesnar in 2003? But Hogan did with the intention of taking warrior's heat. When Kurt or anyone else has done its because they thought it was nice or a good idea or something. He's admitted his intent was to sabotage the start of warrior's reign, thus backstage politics do exist. If that was his intent, it was a pretty lousy effort as the fans ate up the embrace and Hogan raising his hand. I'd like to see the book to see if that was his actual words. Politics exist, it's life. In every profession it's there, does it suck?,yeah, but what can you do?
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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 24, 2007 19:35:18 GMT -5
How did he do that? Many times I've seen a former champion give the new champion the belt and raise his hand in a token of victory. It didn't hurt Warrior at all. Didn't Kurt Angle do the same exact thing for Brock Lesnar in 2003? But Hogan did with the intention of taking warrior's heat. When Kurt or anyone else has done its because they thought it was nice or a good idea or something. He's admitted his intent was to sabotage the start of warrior's reign, thus backstage politics do exist. How do you know that Kurt's gesture was just a "good Idea or something". Does good workrate equal genuine person? Mabe it was something Brisco or Patterson said. The thing is, is that the wrestlers are entertaining the fans. What the fans see, is different than what's going on. When a wrestler, any wrestler, raises the hand of their opponnent after the match, the fans automatically think that they're "breaking kayfabe" and are showing real respect. Actually, It's a tactic just like everything they're doing before, during, and after a match.
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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 24, 2007 19:39:10 GMT -5
But Hogan did with the intention of taking warrior's heat. When Kurt or anyone else has done its because they thought it was nice or a good idea or something. He's admitted his intent was to sabotage the start of warrior's reign, thus backstage politics do exist. If that was his intent, it was a pretty lousy effort as the fans ate up the embrace and Hogan raising his hand. I'd like to see the book to see if that was his actual words. Politics exist, it's life. In every profession it's there, does it suck?,yeah, but what can you do? Hogan said that when he was leaving the ring, and he saw more fans pay attention to him leaving than to the warrior in the ring, that he knew then that the warrior's reign wasn't going to live up. He said this on his DVD aswell. In his book, he said that after the match was over, more people cared about Hogan leaving than warrior winning. Now, if anyone sees this as destroying a charactor, they should see Hogan/Rock. That should kill any argument.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 25, 2007 0:44:45 GMT -5
This just seems like a ploy to get people to watch the new season of "Hogan Knows Best" on VH1.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Nov 25, 2007 2:23:40 GMT -5
While this is unfortunate for Hogan, don't feel too sorry for the guy. Thousands of people get divorced every year. What most of those people don't have is millions and millions of dollars.
If he's worth $20 million, and Linda gets half, he still has more money left over than most of us will ever earn in a lifetime. And probably still enough that he'll never spend it all in his lifetime. I can guarantee a man like Hogan will never be left homeless and destitute, and even at his absolute worst point could still earn a handsome income by simply living off his former fame.
Things suck for Hogan right now, but he's had a damn good life overall. Plenty more people have it worse than he does.
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Post by Jock Ass on Nov 25, 2007 2:27:03 GMT -5
Apparently Linda is suing Hogan over his bedroom antics. She could handle the fact that he could only perform if she was dressed as Macho Man Randy Savage, and even the fact that while Hulk was on the job, he needed her to say "Oooh Yeah!" every so often. It was the fact that he wanted her to climb on top of the wardrobe and do the flying elbow that was the straw that broke the camel's back. "Oh Randy Hulkster, you're hurting me."
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 25, 2007 3:39:00 GMT -5
Listen judge brotha, the division of assets is totally unfair dude!
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 25, 2007 9:50:12 GMT -5
If this is indeed true, then I shall be quite sad. Hogan's career politics etc not withstanding, and no matter how disfunctional and annoying the family is, it was good to see a mega-celebrity staying married, and devoted to his wife and family. And certainly not playing away from home.
I hope its just a work.
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Post by acressl on Nov 25, 2007 9:55:28 GMT -5
Ha! The ultimate hero from my youth who vanquished every bad guy to ever set foot in a ring isn't powerful enough to keep his own family together. Somehow I feel closer to him now. Broken Home! Broken Home! Broken Home!
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 25, 2007 9:57:16 GMT -5
Ha! The ultimate hero from my youth who vanquished every bad guy to ever set foot in a ring isn't powerful enough to keep his own family together. Somehow I feel closer to him now. Broken Home! Broken Home! Broken Home! I don't think anyone ever said he was going to keep his own family together, it happens to nearly everyone from the Harts and others. Still he did it for quite sometime, a lot longer than what most could say they did.
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Post by acressl on Nov 25, 2007 9:58:47 GMT -5
Ha! The ultimate hero from my youth who vanquished every bad guy to ever set foot in a ring isn't powerful enough to keep his own family together. Somehow I feel closer to him now. Broken Home! Broken Home! Broken Home! I don't think anyone ever said he was going to keep his own family together, it happens to nearly everyone from the Harts and others. Still he did it for quite sometime, a lot longer than what most could say they did. I'm joking, really. It was nice to see a celeb actually being a father and husband for so long. He's just part of the club now, you know? That's the real world.
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Post by plushtar on Nov 25, 2007 13:23:37 GMT -5
Is Linda also splitting up the nWo to lead her own brand only to get remarried when Hulk Hogan destroys the her with a fingerpoke?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 25, 2007 13:29:37 GMT -5
Just don't let Nick drive you to the courthouse, jack!
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 26, 2007 10:28:48 GMT -5
Heh? Huh?
Mrs. Hogan: I Don't Want a Divorce!
Posted Nov 26th 2007 9:34AM by TMZ Staff Filed under: Celebrity Justice, Break-Ups, TV
Even though it was Linda Bollea who dropped divorce papers on hubby Hulk Hogan last week, the 48 year-old celebuspouse is still hoping to save her marriage. Wait ... come again?!
"She keeps saying to him 'Can't we find a way to make this work?," a source close to the couple tells TMZ. "She doesn't want to see the family break up. She really wants to work it out with him. But it is like pushing up against a brick wall. She is heartbroken about it."
And the Hulkster's not so tickled about reports that he learned of the split from a Florida newspaper reporter.
"He actually heard it from his lawyer," we're told. "There was no surprise. It had been coming for a while. They have grown to be two different people. When hardships hit them, it really brings them down. And when they were finally hit with a real problem -- (son Nick, 17, is facing felony charges of reckless driving from an August car wreck) -- they just couldn't make it work."
Okay, now it makes sense.
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Post by Grotto on Nov 26, 2007 12:26:50 GMT -5
We have watched him for years in wrestling. We have watched the family for a few years on the reality show. But don't forget...unless you hang out with them week to week...we don't know any of these people.
We do not know who they are when not in front of a camera. We do not know whether they did not get along, or were very much in love. We have a tendency to think we can know why something like this is going on...but unless you are in the inner circle...you just don't know.
Hell...many times the friends in these situations are shocked. If friends don't even know why...then how are we, internet surfers, going to assume we know what happened.
On one hand I do not feel bad for these guys, because public scrutiny is a price to pay for putting your family on a reality show like theirs. But...I also feel bad for any family going through this, especially one that has been together for so long.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 26, 2007 18:08:36 GMT -5
Lots of Hogan divorce notes. The Tampa Tribune reported Linda wants her share of the two homes, as well as alimony, child support and attorney fees. Her petition said the marriage is irretrievably broken. She is also looking for a life insurance policy that would cover child support if Hulk dies and said she would be living with Nick, and wants him to pay Nick's health insurance. She also wants all assets distributed equally. If an equitable split can't be agreed to, she wants the properties sold and the money equally divided. TMZ claims the two were secretly separated for some time.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 26, 2007 18:10:23 GMT -5
Said it before, I'll say it again. That sucks for both of em.
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Post by pathogen on Nov 26, 2007 18:14:02 GMT -5
I am in no way a Hogan fan, but having been seperated from my wife this year I can only sympathise. I wouldn't wish that pain on anybody.
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