GregP19
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Post by GregP19 on Dec 5, 2007 17:00:11 GMT -5
I'm holding out that this is smark bait and he will surprisingly show up on monday. True he doesnt owe WWE anything more than he has already given, but I selfishly want to see him. I know that this is highly unlikely, but this is the season of believing, if kids can believe in Santa Claus then I can have this....DAMNIT!
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 5, 2007 17:04:41 GMT -5
How often do you think Rock gets people asking about his wrestling past?
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 17:05:45 GMT -5
How often do you think Rock gets people asking about his wrestling past? I'm sure quite often, but still it doesn't mean he has to go running back to wrestling if he doesn't have to.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 5, 2007 17:11:36 GMT -5
How often do you think Rock gets people asking about his wrestling past? I'm sure quite often, but still it doesn't mean he has to go running back to wrestling if he doesn't have to. Agreed. And when I catch him on the talk shows anymore, I don't see him making much light of wrestling. He's not actively avoiding it, but if he's there to promote a movie, that's what he is currently being paid to do, so he keeps it right there. I'm sure that's the general modus operandi with talk shows and the studio/Rock agreeing to an appearance to promote the movie.
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Post by rubber johnny on Dec 5, 2007 17:29:53 GMT -5
this just means mick foley gets double the time to promote some new book and/or sick children
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 5, 2007 17:36:14 GMT -5
this just means mick foley gets double the time to promote some new book and/or sick children And get the cheap hometown pop. Maybe twice.
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Hiroshi Hase
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 17:37:00 GMT -5
this just means mick foley gets double the time to promote some new book and/or sick children And get the cheap hometown pop. Maybe twice. Maybe once if he's lucky.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 5, 2007 17:54:59 GMT -5
That Jennifer Aniston comparison has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read here at the crap. And I've read Rajah threads. No offense to the poster, but it is. I'm gonna reply to this in bullet points because it's a bit easier for me. -Tickets to television shows are free. Network television is free. Therefore, we don't pay the actors salaries. Advertising does. If Jennifer Aniston were to turn down a TV show because she was doing a movie, she wouldn't be pissing on the fans(because we don't pay money to see her), she'd be pissing on the studio and the network. Because that's who really made her famous. -Tickets to wrestling shows are not free. The promotion gets a nice cut of our ticket money and that goes in part to pay the wrestler's salaries. If the Rock were to turn down a 10 minute spot because he's trying to distance himself from what and who MADE HIS ASS, then yes, he is pissing on them. Personally, I don't care one way or the other if he shows up in any way, shape or form. -The Rock is not a dick. He's a sellout. He's completely ignoring where he came from and who made him. He's ignoring the people that paid their hard earned money to see him pull the string on his back and say 11 different things. If he can't come back, if just once for a few minutes, and say thank you, then he's a sellout. Not wanting to induct his own FATHER in the HOF makes him a dick. -Lastly, who in the HELL wants to see another Jennifer Aniston series?! Rock isn't advertised on the card. He's made no committment to go there, therefore, he doesn't owe anyone anything. He paid for the tickets bought on the shows he was on on that show, nothing more. No fan is entitled to anything more than a performer fulfilling their commitments, and Rock fulfilled his. Boo-hoo, he won't do several appearances a year! Why can't he be more like Steve Austin and appear every other week! Why can't retirement mean "not really retire, but come out for cheap pops several times a month!" Oh wait, fans hate Steve Austin's appearances now don't they? It's impossible for any retired performer who hasn't been forced out by injury to please the fans because they have this inflated sense of entitlement. They feel like they are personally responsible for their careers and, as such, that they should be catered to, but not too much! Because if you appear more than an arbitrary number of times a year, you're cheapening your legacy.
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Post by threev on Dec 5, 2007 17:56:27 GMT -5
People seem to forget that The Rock was a professional caliber athlete before he injured himself in football, and people like to use the phrase that the wrestling business made The Rock, but in all honesty, without The Rock and Steve Austin, there very well might not be a professional wrestling business in America right now. At least as we know it.
I have no problem with people who want to use the WWE or wrestling in general as a stepping stone to a different career. People do this in every walk of life. Just because these particular people are on TV every week doesn't make it any different. It's still a job and just a job.
At least The Rock seems to have an upstanding home life. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings twenty five years past his prime while his son is facing manslaughter charges, his daughter's already meaningless career is going down the drain and his wife is divorcing him. At least The Rock is not taking bookings when as much of his skeleton is medically created as real. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to cut worked-shoot promos about the old guys in this business compared to the new guys. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and then complaining of food poisoning and stringing an entire company along on the day of a Pay Per View. At least the Rock is not taking bookings when it's to the detriment of the safety of his child and wife. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and blatantly lying about using steroids or the issue of steroids in the business. At least The Rock is not taking a hot shot booking while not even being a part of the industry to publicize his new reality series that follows Raw. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to collect a paycheck and publicize the latest in a series of boring, unsuccessful books. At least the Rock is not in his 60's accepting bookings because he couldn't manage the millions of dollars he made over a thirty year career. At least the Rock is not accepting bookings and making out with the a top superstar backstage despite the fact that his dead significant other died as a result of the business he's now profiting from. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings with utterly no skills whatsoever, only so that he can push the possibility of getting a contract with a glorified porn magazine, like virtually every diva ever.
The Rock declined a booking with the WWE. When I look at everybody who accepts bookings in this miserable business, I fail to see how I can blame him.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 5, 2007 18:00:26 GMT -5
People seem to forget that The Rock was a professional caliber athlete before he injured himself in football, and people like to use the phrase that the wrestling business made The Rock, but in all honesty, without The Rock and Steve Austin, there very well might not be a professional wrestling business in America right now. At least as we know it. I have no problem with people who want to use the WWE or wrestling in general as a stepping stone to a different career. People do this in every walk of life. Just because these particular people are on TV every week doesn't make it any different. It's still a job and just a job. At least The Rock seems to have an upstanding home life. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings twenty five years past his prime while his son is facing manslaughter charges, his daughter's already meaningless career is going down the drain and his wife is divorcing him. At least The Rock is not taking bookings when as much of his skeleton is medically created as real. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to cut worked-shoot promos about the old guys in this business compared to the new guys. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and then complaining of food poisoning and stringing an entire company along on the day of a Pay Per View. At least the Rock is not taking bookings when it's to the detriment of the safety of his child and wife. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and blatantly lying about using steroids or the issue of steroids in the business. At least The Rock is not taking a hot shot booking while not even being a part of the industry to publicize his new reality series that follows Raw. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to collect a paycheck and publicize the latest in a series of boring, unsuccessful books. At least the Rock is not in his 60's accepting bookings because he couldn't manage the millions of dollars he made over a thirty year career. At least the Rock is not accepting bookings and making out with the a top superstar backstage despite the fact that his dead significant other died as a result of the business he's now profiting from. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings with utterly no skills whatsoever, only so that he can push the possibility of getting a contract with a glorified porn magazine, like virtually every diva ever. The Rock declined a booking with the WWE. When I look at everybody who accepts bookings in this miserable business, I fail to see how I can blame him. I think you could've stopped at the first or second one, but still it's just your opinion.
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Post by threev on Dec 5, 2007 18:01:45 GMT -5
People seem to forget that The Rock was a professional caliber athlete before he injured himself in football, and people like to use the phrase that the wrestling business made The Rock, but in all honesty, without The Rock and Steve Austin, there very well might not be a professional wrestling business in America right now. At least as we know it. I have no problem with people who want to use the WWE or wrestling in general as a stepping stone to a different career. People do this in every walk of life. Just because these particular people are on TV every week doesn't make it any different. It's still a job and just a job. At least The Rock seems to have an upstanding home life. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings twenty five years past his prime while his son is facing manslaughter charges, his daughter's already meaningless career is going down the drain and his wife is divorcing him. At least The Rock is not taking bookings when as much of his skeleton is medically created as real. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to cut worked-shoot promos about the old guys in this business compared to the new guys. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and then complaining of food poisoning and stringing an entire company along on the day of a Pay Per View. At least the Rock is not taking bookings when it's to the detriment of the safety of his child and wife. At least The Rock is not taking bookings and blatantly lying about using steroids or the issue of steroids in the business. At least The Rock is not taking a hot shot booking while not even being a part of the industry to publicize his new reality series that follows Raw. At least The Rock is not taking bookings to collect a paycheck and publicize the latest in a series of boring, unsuccessful books. At least the Rock is not in his 60's accepting bookings because he couldn't manage the millions of dollars he made over a thirty year career. At least the Rock is not accepting bookings and making out with the a top superstar backstage despite the fact that his dead significant other died as a result of the business he's now profiting from. At least The Rock is not accepting bookings with utterly no skills whatsoever, only so that he can push the possibility of getting a contract with a glorified porn magazine, like virtually every diva ever. The Rock declined a booking with the WWE. When I look at everybody who accepts bookings in this miserable business, I fail to see how I can blame him. I think you could've stopped at the first or second one, but still it's just your opinion. I never said it was anything but.
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Post by texaswhopper on Dec 5, 2007 18:07:47 GMT -5
"Why can't he be more like Steve Austin and appear every other week! Why can't retirement mean "not really retire, but come out for cheap pops several times a month!"
Oh wait, fans hate Steve Austin's appearances now don't they?"
I will remind people on one time for a Steve Austin appearance sometime back he showed up in Reeboks. Those shoes were so...
WHITE.
I didnt hate his appearance but it wasnt long and it was the same old schtick that I saw in 98 about every Monday night. Seems less exciting now because there is no wrestling to be done by him to follow it up. It was more than just that character for my reasons for watching him all those years. I enjoyed Steves wrestling ring work.
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deadguy2322
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Post by deadguy2322 on Dec 5, 2007 19:02:52 GMT -5
Can't say I'm surprised. The fact that he dropped "The Rock" from his film name made me think he was completely done with wrestling. He just wants to be seen as an actor, not as "that wrestler who became an actor." It would have been nice to see him, but I'm not bitter or anything. He's moved on, I've come to terms with that, and hope he does well in his new career. So, are you wishing him the best in his future endeavors?
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Post by threev on Dec 5, 2007 19:20:05 GMT -5
... and his wife is divorcing him. At least The Rock... Didn't he file for divorce earlier this year? They indicated that their parting was amicable and that they would spend the rest of their lives together as best friends.There can be some argument I guess that Linda and Hulk are divorcing to claim individual ownership of their two Floridian estates so that one of them can not be used in a settlement hearing for Nick. But considering what we know about their relationship, that's just as unlikely as it is likely.
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Post by mothership on Dec 5, 2007 19:29:32 GMT -5
The Rock doesn't want to be on the show...but he has no trouble filming those bumpers for his new movies that are played before/after RAW...and of course the studios love to by WWE air time to advertise. They know damn well where the Rock's audience started...he would've have starred in anything without his wrestling fame...and while I do believe he's probably built a new audience, I would think at least half, if not more, of his audience still resides in the wrestling community. So just plug your BS on the damn show like everyone else and throw the fans a bone once in a while.
And let's face it...most of the big guys that do come back are shilling something...Foley, Hogan, Austin...it's always something. Be it a book, a daughter, a movie...
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 5, 2007 19:37:14 GMT -5
So just plug your BS on the damn show like everyone else and throw the fans a bone once in a while. Yes, because the fans loved it when Stone Cold did it, eh?
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 5, 2007 19:41:26 GMT -5
So just plug your BS on the damn show like everyone else and throw the fans a bone once in a while. Yes, because the fans loved it when Stone Cold did it, eh? Agreed. He wouldn't be throwing them a bone. He'd be insulting them. "Oh, you fans are only good enough for me to show up so that I can plug my new movie..." Yeah...thanks for nothing. The Rock knows better than to do that.
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Post by tap on Dec 5, 2007 19:48:43 GMT -5
I'm somewhat split over this. The Rock has been away from wrestling full time for over 4 years. He's done, I can accept that. But, he wouldn't be where he is not without wrestling. He's been back a couple of times, and it's not like he REALLY owes the fans anything. But I don't think a 20 minute segment, at the most, could really hurt. It's not that taxing. And we'd appreciate it, even if he did the same thing he has for awhile (when he's been around). If anything, I'd still like to see a great Rock DVD set come about some time in 2008. Shame really, if he did come back, he could be involved in something like that and even get a cut of the profits.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 5, 2007 19:53:47 GMT -5
He certainly would get a cut of the profits for that, but I don't think he's quite ready for that yet. Keep in mind, he's got a pretty active movie career going on, and those contracts don't allow for you to just take a day off from shooting to fly to RAW to do some promos for your DVD set. It's a lot easier when your guys is on the active roster or doesn't have any other things really pressing going on.
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Post by mothership on Dec 5, 2007 20:57:10 GMT -5
Oh my bad...trying to ride the coat tails of the RAW audience and shill your garbage at 11:05 while disassociating yourself from wrestling is much less insulting to the fans.
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