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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 9, 2007 4:56:03 GMT -5
People still call him the rock in the non wrestling world. He might want to be called Dwayne Johnson but he will always be the Rock. When he was promoting Gameplan, People called him Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 9, 2007 8:14:08 GMT -5
People still call him the rock in the non wrestling world. He might want to be called Dwayne Johnson but he will always be the Rock. When he was promoting Gameplan, People called him Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Maybe so, but so what? So by that, he should jump back into wrestling till he's old and crippled like Dynamite Kid or something?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2007 12:10:48 GMT -5
People still call him the rock in the non wrestling world. He might want to be called Dwayne Johnson but he will always be the Rock. When he was promoting Gameplan, People called him Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Maybe so, but so what? So by that, he should jump back into wrestling till he's old and crippled like Dynamite Kid or something? Nope. It's become kinda like his nickname now. Sting ( the singer)'s real name isn't Sting either. The he's still called The Rock thing doesn't mean anything. The guy doesn't owe anything.
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Post by Jack on Dec 9, 2007 12:19:07 GMT -5
People still call him the rock in the non wrestling world. He might want to be called Dwayne Johnson but he will always be the Rock. When he was promoting Gameplan, People called him Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Maybe so, but so what? So by that, he should jump back into wrestling till he's old and crippled like Dynamite Kid or something? It's not so much that, it's the fact that he now totally ignores the wrestling business which I think is in the first instance disrespectful towards the guys who helped him get over during his career. Afterall when Lesnar decided he wanted to give it all up and try something else everyone was chastising him for getting to the top then just dumping the industry that made him, yet Rock because he does movies escapes the criticism. But also and perhaps more crucially it's a slap in the face to the fans who made him and the fans who by their sheer number is the ONLY reason Hollywood producers decided to cast him. Face it, the guy wouldn't pass a screen test in a month of Thursdays. However there he was, most popular guy on a TV show watched every week by millions. Even if he had the acting ability of a cross between Hulk Hogan and brick - he'd have got acting roles. However it seems now that he doesn't care. "I'm a star now, wrestling is behind and beneath me" - is virtually what he's saying. Nobody expects him to be full time, or even to wrestle but to just now totally by and large not even acknowledge the business that made him does rub people up the wrong way. The occasional appearance just out of recognition to those who made him who he is today would be nice.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2007 12:24:39 GMT -5
I don't have any hard feelings toward Brock either. But that's me, I'll never get the whole 'slap in the face' thing, cuz I don't see that at all.
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Post by amsiraK on Dec 9, 2007 12:24:40 GMT -5
Maybe so, but so what? So by that, he should jump back into wrestling till he's old and crippled like Dynamite Kid or something? It's not so much that, it's the fact that he now totally ignores the wrestling business which I think is in the first instance disrespectful towards the guys who helped him get over during his career. Afterall when Lesnar decided he wanted to give it all up and try something else everyone was chastising him for getting to the top then just dumping the industry that made him, yet Rock because he does movies escapes the criticism. But also and perhaps more crucially it's a slap in the face to the fans who made him and the fans who by their sheer number is the ONLY reason Hollywood producers decided to cast him. Face it, the guy wouldn't pass a screen test in a month of Thursdays. However there he was, most popular guy on a TV show watched every week by millions. Even if he had the acting ability of a cross between Hulk Hogan and brick - he'd have got acting roles. However it seems now that he doesn't care. "I'm a star now, wrestling is behind and beneath me" - is virtually what he's saying. Nobody expects him to be full time, or even to wrestle but to just now totally by and large not even acknowledge the business that made him does rub people up the wrong way. The occasional appearance just out of recognition to those who made him who he is today would be nice. While an occasional appearance would be NICE, I don't blame him in the least. They haven't given him a decent thing to do on any previous visits.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2007 12:25:56 GMT -5
What would he do with the occasional appearance? The same old stuff Austin does when he shows up now? No thanks.
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Post by Jack on Dec 9, 2007 12:27:41 GMT -5
I wonder if it's the current administration that he dislikes. It's well documented that he doesn't have any time for Shawn Michaels and Michaels and HHH are as we know very close buddies. Perhaps Rock has heat with Hunter.
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Post by I Like Rocks on Dec 9, 2007 12:44:32 GMT -5
Well i just wished The Rock would actually get a role in a really good movie. The movies he made untill today are not exactly blockbuster
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 9, 2007 12:46:20 GMT -5
It's not so much that, it's the fact that he now totally ignores the wrestling business which I think is in the first instance disrespectful towards the guys who helped him get over during his career. Afterall when Lesnar decided he wanted to give it all up and try something else everyone was chastising him for getting to the top then just dumping the industry that made him, yet Rock because he does movies escapes the criticism. But also and perhaps more crucially it's a slap in the face to the fans who made him and the fans who by their sheer number is the ONLY reason Hollywood producers decided to cast him. Face it, the guy wouldn't pass a screen test in a month of Thursdays. However there he was, most popular guy on a TV show watched every week by millions. Even if he had the acting ability of a cross between Hulk Hogan and brick - he'd have got acting roles. However it seems now that he doesn't care. "I'm a star now, wrestling is behind and beneath me" - is virtually what he's saying. Nobody expects him to be full time, or even to wrestle but to just now totally by and large not even acknowledge the business that made him does rub people up the wrong way. The occasional appearance just out of recognition to those who made him who he is today would be nice. Rock doesn't escape any criticism. In fact, far from it, I've seem him being bitched for supposedly being ungrateful and a sell out every time he's brought up. It's quite obvious that the only ones who feel so entitled that they think he suddenly still owes them for watching him on free tv or buying an action figure. The guy has come back repeatedly. He even filmed a promo this year for wrestlemania. He's reported by a Newz site for not coming to this particular event and all of a sudden he's completely ignoring the business? Seriously, he's not ignoring the business, it's that the fans refuse to believe that that doesn't mean an appearance every month. Odds are, if Rock did what you want him to do, you'd be complaining about it just like everyone complains about Foley's or Austin's perpetual returns.
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Post by dh03grad on Dec 9, 2007 13:37:08 GMT -5
Maybe so, but so what? So by that, he should jump back into wrestling till he's old and crippled like Dynamite Kid or something? It's not so much that, it's the fact that he now totally ignores the wrestling business which I think is in the first instance disrespectful towards the guys who helped him get over during his career. Afterall when Lesnar decided he wanted to give it all up and try something else everyone was chastising him for getting to the top then just dumping the industry that made him, yet Rock because he does movies escapes the criticism. But also and perhaps more crucially it's a slap in the face to the fans who made him and the fans who by their sheer number is the ONLY reason Hollywood producers decided to cast him. Face it, the guy wouldn't pass a screen test in a month of Thursdays. However there he was, most popular guy on a TV show watched every week by millions. Even if he had the acting ability of a cross between Hulk Hogan and brick - he'd have got acting roles. However it seems now that he doesn't care. "I'm a star now, wrestling is behind and beneath me" - is virtually what he's saying. Nobody expects him to be full time, or even to wrestle but to just now totally by and large not even acknowledge the business that made him does rub people up the wrong way. The occasional appearance just out of recognition to those who made him who he is today would be nice. The Rock appeared in WWE Television in 2007. I dont blame Brock Lesnar for leaving either. If leaving wrestling will make you happy and help you to live a longer life, you better believe I will support you doing that. If the Rock was a terrible wrestler during his 8 year career, that would be a slap in the face to the fans.
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Post by Josh DELUXE on Dec 9, 2007 13:43:30 GMT -5
I didn't bother reading the thread. All I have to say is congrats to The Rock for being able to distance himself from this business. I'm sure if the other wrestlers were given the opportunity to be in the sam position that The Rock is in, they would take it in a second.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 9, 2007 16:40:13 GMT -5
He doesn't owe wrestling anything. I agree with that. I'm just saying people will always call him the Rock even if he doesn't want it.
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Post by Jack on Dec 9, 2007 16:43:37 GMT -5
He doesn't owe wrestling anything. I agree with that. I'm just saying people will always call him the Rock even if he doesn't want it. How can you say he doesn't owe the wrestling industry anything? It's like saying Brad Pitt doesn't owe the movie industry anything. He owes the wrestling industry his career, fame and fortune - if not all of it a damn significant portion.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 9, 2007 17:14:41 GMT -5
How can you say he doesn't owe the wrestling industry anything? It's like saying Brad Pitt doesn't owe the movie industry anything. He owes the wrestling industry his career, fame and fortune - if not all of it a damn significant portion. It's easy to say that, he PAID that debt when he was in it. He paid it with the matches he put on, the promos he gave, the mountains of money he made others, the people he put over and the entertainment he gave. If it weren't for him, the industry wouldn't be the same. He changed the industry, made it more popular, and gave it a better face. The fact that people recognize him as a wrestler, but still as a genuinely positive figure, which is more than can be said for the public image of most performers. He gave the industry everything and continued to give even beyond what he was contractually obligated to give, through returns to put over talent and promos even this year that all his detractors seem to wish to ignore. If people, not just wrestling fans, but people in general, dropped this ridiculous notion of being owed everything in the world, we'd all be better off. We're not entitled to jack crap from him. He gave his wrestling fans what what they deserved when they were in it. If he has a better life now out of wrestling, it's his every right to pursue it. When you have done everything that you were obligated to give in your contract, you don't owe your employer anything, nor does your employer owe you anything.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2007 19:55:17 GMT -5
For what it's worth, one of the Rock's next movies is a part in the Get Smart remake with Steve Carell that'll probably be pretty big budget
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Post by Lancers on Dec 9, 2007 20:39:42 GMT -5
For what it's worth, one of the Rock's next movies is a part in the Get Smart remake with Steve Carell that'll probably be pretty big budget Seeing the Rock portraying Agent 99 should immediately be granted a license to print money.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 9, 2007 21:21:00 GMT -5
The Rock made up his own gimmick that made him popular. So the Rock doesnt owe wwe anything, but it would be nice to see an apperance from him
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Post by dh03grad on Dec 10, 2007 2:30:44 GMT -5
He doesn't owe wrestling anything. I agree with that. I'm just saying people will always call him the Rock even if he doesn't want it. How can you say he doesn't owe the wrestling industry anything? It's like saying Brad Pitt doesn't owe the movie industry anything. He owes the wrestling industry his career, fame and fortune - if not all of it a damn significant portion. He owed to the WWE to perform for the duration of his contract. Did they sign him to a lifetime deal? What does Vince owe the Rock for sustaining the attitude era past Austin-McMahon? stock in the company? Or does Vince owe Rock the terms of the contract they signed?
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Post by mikedh on Dec 10, 2007 3:14:15 GMT -5
He won't even talk abot wrestling in interviews anymore and requests that it not be brought up. He wants to focus 100% on acting and wants the public to view him as "actor" not "actor/wrestler".
I agree with the above, the Rock does not owe WWE shit. Not to mention there is little to even do with him creatively anyway. He wrestled pretty much everybody in his short career.
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