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Post by Harvey on Dec 9, 2007 12:47:10 GMT -5
Thats true Try Me... I was just watching the promos Bret cut when he came to WCW. I think it was a total of 5 from December through March. Wasn't a whole lot. He needed to complain more to the office to give him more time. Obviously he could politick. When you're making that kind of money, you need to look out for your best interests.
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Post by Near Fantastica on Dec 9, 2007 15:50:35 GMT -5
Bringing back old farts doesn't stimulate the business. The new generation of fans won't know who the hell they are.
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Post by xwhatx on Dec 9, 2007 15:54:18 GMT -5
and be at RAW!! Let bygones be bygones and come back for the fans. How can ya hold a grudge and be bitter for 10 years? Id love to see Bret back and make a last run in a little angle. Maybe where he attacks shawn or Vince or something. He doesnt have to wrestle. Bret could make some serious money and stimulate the biz a little being involved in an angle. That could bring some old school wrestling fans back and increase ratings. im thinking there are a lot more underlying issues around the situation than people know about. a lot of the "inside info" we here on the screwjob could be mostly kayfabe or mixed with a lot of it. |
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Post by Jack on Dec 9, 2007 16:45:13 GMT -5
Bringing back old farts doesn't stimulate the business. The new generation of fans won't know who the hell they are. When the 'new generation' of fans are significantly out numbered by those who do remember the 'old farts' it's hardly surprising that they keep using them. |
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Post by Jam on Dec 9, 2007 16:50:12 GMT -5
Just about everyone would love one last run from Bret Hart in WWE. I think he just doesn't have the passion or what not to be involved. I'm sure if he did he would have been back already. Everyone else has. With the exception of Randy Savage and Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 9, 2007 17:25:44 GMT -5
Here's one point I've thought up. Someone's probably thought it up themselves and if they have, I apologise if I also state the obvious.
Vince McMahon's whole character for the last 10 years was because of the Screwjob. Everything Vince has done storyline wise even up to the Battle of the Billionaire was all because of what happened.
It's probably the one reason why the WWE will never drop talking about it, whether we like it or not.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 9, 2007 17:26:55 GMT -5
Everyone involved acted like a complete jackass.
Bret was being a whiny bitch then before SSeries 97 and he will about it forever more.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 9, 2007 17:34:14 GMT -5
Just about everyone would love one last run from Bret Hart in WWE. I think he just doesn't have the passion or what not to be involved. I'm sure if he did he would have been back already. Everyone else has. With the exception of Randy Savage and Brock Lesnar. The passion may be part of it, but it'd be hard to feel any kinda passion when it's not physically possible for him to have 'one last run'. He's incapable with the way his concussion went to safely take a bump. Barring that, what else is there to do? Become a lackluster manager or GM? He was always adequate on the mic, but never had that kinda charisma if it wasn't stemming from his in ring style. People shit on Ric Flair and those like him who keep going well past their prime ( even though I still mark to hear WOOOOO!), would it not be even worse to see a Bret Hart out there who can't really excel at anything? He said his nice farewell at the HOF induction; even though he did that video promo on Vince sometime later. Taken all things into consideration, he got to say goodbye on fairly decent terms, for me that's enough* *Keep in mind that while I always liked him, I was never a huge fan, so it's pretty easy for me to 'let the guy go' so to speak. |
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 9, 2007 17:37:21 GMT -5
The facts are, in terms of the IWC...The Montreal Screwjob will never be resolved until Bret says that final goodbye/make an appearance in a WWE ring.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 9, 2007 17:38:55 GMT -5
The facts are, in terms of the IWC...The Montreal Screwjob will never be resolved until Bret says that final goodbye/make an appearance in a WWE ring. If we're judging the 'IWC' from this forum, it seems as though most people were happy with the HOF speech. |
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 9, 2007 17:42:16 GMT -5
I guess thats a fair enough statement.
Maybe I meant to say I wont be happy until Bret says a final goodbye/makes an appearance in a WWE ring. ;D
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 9, 2007 18:25:54 GMT -5
and be at RAW!! Let bygones be bygones and come back for the fans. How can ya hold a grudge and be bitter for 10 years? Id love to see Bret back and make a last run in a little angle. Maybe where he attacks shawn or Vince or something. He doesnt have to wrestle. Bret could make some serious money and stimulate the biz a little being involved in an angle. That could bring some old school wrestling fans back and increase ratings. Maybe you should stop being a whiny b**** and respect his decision to be retired from the wrestling business - the very industry which killed his brother Owen. And you conveniently overlook how dissatisfied Bret became with McMahon's product during his final years with the WWF. He said he didn't want to be associated with a wrestling promotion that he couldn't take his kids to see, and it's unlikely that Bret feels any more optimistic about WWE's product today (what with the whole 'diva search' phenomenon) than he did 10 years ago. What's next? You're going to whine about the fact that Nick Mondo decided to retire from wrestling after Tournament of Death 2? |
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Post by texaswhopper on Dec 9, 2007 19:32:40 GMT -5
Sometimes I think after that screwjob he wont show up on live WWE TV for reasons of not wanting to be embarrased again.
Its not gonna be a screwjob or anything like that but I dont think he trusts McMahon on a live RAW atmosphere or behind the scenes. I dont know exactly what would happen but I dont think hes taking chances.
I know it sounds weird but thats what I think sometimes.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 9, 2007 19:35:27 GMT -5
I have to give Bret props for making it to the HOF after all the things the WWE did to him, and no im not talking about the screwjob, im talking bout owen
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Post by xwhatx on Dec 9, 2007 20:09:45 GMT -5
yep, the only closure i see is him on a microphone in the middle of the ring. maybe even with vince involved.
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Post by MCMGM on Dec 9, 2007 20:22:24 GMT -5
Ok, this is getting REALLY annoying... Bret CAN'T WORK an angle, he can't take the slightest bump Bret wants to be remembered as a great wrestler, not as a broken down old manager/GM Bret speaks of Montreal when asked by fans, reporters, columnists. He's not arranging press conferences around North America to bitch and whine. WWE themlselves have been bringing the Screwjob up at every possible chance. Anyway, you know what's cracking me up? Some are lambasting Hart for not being able to let it die, but in the end they're the one so obsessed with the Screwjob they keep talking about it more than Bret himself has done at the peak of his bitterness. Oh, and BTW, the ideal way to "let it die" is having Bret coming back on WWE TV to have an angle against Vince and Shawn??? Well Said I'm also getting sick of hearing it on the DVD's, especially the one on the "Mcmahon" dvd, it made me wanna puke. What they said. |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 9, 2007 22:51:03 GMT -5
bret is the personification of someone who did it for himself and the money. a TRUE entertainer does it for the fans as well.
he's got every right to say no to it... and i have every right to say i think he sucks for saying no to it.
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Post by dh03grad on Dec 10, 2007 2:17:12 GMT -5
bret is the personification of someone who did it for himself and the money. a TRUE entertainer does it for the fans as well. he's got every right to say no to it... and i have every right to say i think he sucks for saying no to it. And I have a right to say that you are a complete idiot for thinking so. Bret Hart wrestled for 24 years. He had a serious concussion and kept working on it for the fans. It caused him to have a damn stroke. Because of that he sucks for not being a part of WWE as a 50 year old in not so good health? You are an asshole and I couldnt care less if I am banned for that. |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Dec 10, 2007 3:38:17 GMT -5
bret is the personification of someone who did it for himself and the money. a TRUE entertainer does it for the fans as well. he's got every right to say no to it... and i have every right to say i think he sucks for saying no to it. And I have a right to say that you are a complete idiot for thinking so. Bret Hart wrestled for 24 years. He had a serious concussion and kept working on it for the fans. It caused him to have a damn stroke. Because of that he sucks for not being a part of WWE as a 50 year old in not so good health? You are an asshole and I couldnt care less if I am banned for that. right on then. welcome to the board, bret.  yeah, if the dude can do a stage performance of Aladdin, then he can show up at one wrestling show for his fans and cut a promo or something... i guarentee it wouldn't kill him. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 10, 2007 6:04:25 GMT -5
And I have a right to say that you are a complete idiot for thinking so. Bret Hart wrestled for 24 years. He had a serious concussion and kept working on it for the fans. It caused him to have a damn stroke. Because of that he sucks for not being a part of WWE as a 50 year old in not so good health? You are an asshole and I couldnt care less if I am banned for that. right on then. welcome to the board, bret. yeah, if the dude can do a stage performance of Aladdin, then he can show up at one wrestling show for his fans and cut a promo or something... i guarentee it wouldn't kill him. Much like with the Rock or anyone else who doesn't wish to be at any WWE event, it's their choice. It doesn't make them a bad person because they don't want to be at Raw, they are not obligated or "owe us" anything. |
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