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Post by Sparkybob on May 7, 2018 9:42:47 GMT -5
Can somebody dig out a link to the thread from about 2 years ago where Vince was claiming Braun was going to be the next top face and we all laughed. We were so wrong it's painful. This is also impressive foresight. officialfan.proboards.com/post/10537538/thread
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Post by Sparkybob on May 7, 2018 9:23:18 GMT -5
I hate that the only way stale wrestlers can get time off and be refreshed as characters is for them to get f***ing seriously injured There is something seriously wrong with that. The WWE really needs to figure out a way of rotating guys and girls out of the 'front line' every few months, to give their talent time to rest, rehabilitate and perhaps refill their creativity meters. It would also keep a lot of wrestlers fresh in the fans' eyes, and shorten feuds to more sensible proportions, with less match repetition and opportunities for more guys to prove themselves. I'm not saying this would prevent all in-match injuries, but it would be better in every other respect. Except for the wrestler's paycheck.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 23:21:23 GMT -5
He is working smarter not harder. His spot is secure like Punk was in late 2014? (Or whatever his last run was) where he is not going to get higher up on the card nor lower on the card. Motivation takes a hit at that point.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 23:11:16 GMT -5
Tbf it was not really the cream of the crop involved in these matches.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 22:54:09 GMT -5
I think most of the guys/girls look exhausted from all the travel recently which has some effect on match quality. Not on booking though.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 22:40:58 GMT -5
Carmella needs a lot of work to be deserving of the top of the Women's card. This just smells transitioning to Asuka and get Charlotte away from the title until late fall.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 22:11:12 GMT -5
Styles is probably hurt right now so I am not going to blame him too much for not killin himself out there. I think Nak needs to be carrying the matches as the heel+ the guy who needs to impess folks. Don't think he's passing.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 21:49:38 GMT -5
He has not been too hot lately. I will feel worse for him if he was putting out better matches.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 21:47:35 GMT -5
Imagine telling somebody those two guys are still considered the best in the world. Good lord. What a piss performance all around. Maybe it was the finish but neither guy clearly gave all that much of a f*** and it showed big time. They phoned it in, point blank. They did their stuff, did their whacky finish, and went home. Like, come on. AJ has never been a guy that struck me as resting on his laurels but Smackdown has really done something to this dude. He ain't hot no more. Meanwhile, Chad Gable heads to Raw and looks like a bigger star in one night than SMackdown made him look during his entire run. There's an epidemic over on Smackdown and I don't know who's at fault but shit needs to get resolved...yesterday. AJ has nothing to prove anymore. He is not going to move up or down the card. So he is probably on easy mode because it does not matter how well he does.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 6, 2018 20:11:26 GMT -5
Do they really need to do the European tour twice a year? Let’s these poor guys rest. European tours make wrestlers a lot of money.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 2, 2018 12:09:52 GMT -5
Big Show's problem earlier in his career was that he was fat.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 1, 2018 0:52:03 GMT -5
Make everyone a heel.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 30, 2018 14:12:43 GMT -5
Kane absolutely lost momentum the first time. Kane possibly could have been the IC Champ/Tag team Champ/World Champ which would have been a historic achievement. (HHH won the IC belt in this match and it got unified so big woop) Orton was bad. Maybe not all Hunter's fault but a big portion of the blame goes to Trips. Beating Orton after a month of his run ws very very dumb. Kane was already a star by that point which is what I'm saying. Triple H didn't ruin Kane in becoming a potential star because the guy was already made. There's a difference between beating someone who's a star and beating someone who's not. Had Kane retired after the HHH match his legacy would already be cemented in WWE history. If you compare that to others then the same wouldn't apply. I'm speaking about guys who are already made (the Kanes, WCW classics, RVD and such) against guys who need to get those wins. Ambrose and others who faced Lesnar needed those wins way more than Kane needed that HHH win. As for Orton, his mistakes were not on solely on Hunter so I'm not placing the blame on him at this point. There's a difference between putting the blame on Hunter's reign and backstage issues and Orton's issues were the latter. Kane was never at a top babyface level by the time of the first Hunter program. (Unless I was wrong I did not watch until 2002). Kane was only world champion for a day too so he never had a true run with the belt. Not only did Kane fail to win the WHC, he also lost his IC title in the match too! Hunter when he got the belt basically just unified it away. As a small parallel CM Punk was elevated greatly by MITB 2011 even though he was a multi time world champion by then. Kane could have been solidify as a main event babyface carrying around the IC/Tag Title/WHC for a couple of months before dropping it so Hunter can main event at Mania again. On Orton the issue is Benoit jobbed to him clean at Summerslam and even did the post match respect handshake which lead to Randy losing the belt a month later. So it makes Chris look like crap for losing to a guy who could not even last 6 weeks with the belt. If Randy had issues backstage it will be odd that they kept him in the main event scene the whole Fall 2014 and even had him fight Hunter for the belt at the Royal Rumble. I don't doubt Randy was a dick but his problem was he was not that over and then Hunter killed him further by beating him. If he was being punished for being a jerk I would expect it to be more like Swagger/2009 Punk who after they drop the title went back to the midcard abyss.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 30, 2018 12:29:11 GMT -5
We gotta address something else too. I've seen a lot of posts about Triple H "ruining potential stars" but I have to ask who do yall have that he ruined? Do you know how many potential stars he took out? I've just gone through each feud Trips had during the Reign of Terror starting in 2002 through 2005 and here's what we have. - RVD (a star, lost to HHH due to Flair and Trip's sledgehammer, kept elevating after the match) - Kane (a star, lost to HHH due to Flair and Trip's sledgehammer, kept elevating after the match, ended up winning the feud in a non-title casket match a week later) - HBK (a star, beat HHH for the title, lost the title to HHH months later due to Flair's help) - RVD and Kane (stars, beat Flair and Trips in a tag title feud) - Steiner (lost to HHH due to his boys and the sledgehammer) - Booker T (inexcusable, a star that lost due to Flair) - Nash (DQ'd but Nash laid HHH out afterwards, HIAC Nash lost) - Goldberg (Goldberg won repeatedly, lost the Armageddon match due to Evolution) - HBK (draw) - Benoit (Benoit won) - HBK (HHH won) - Benoit (Benoit won again) - Eugene (weird match but HHH won) - Orton (lost due to Evolution inteference) - HBK (lost due to Edge interference) - Batista (beat Trips and ended the reign) Kane absolutely lost momentum the first time. Kane possibly could have been the IC Champ/Tag team Champ/World Champ which would have been a historic achievement. (HHH won the IC belt in this match and it got unified so big woop) Orton was bad. Maybe not all Hunter's fault but a big portion of the blame goes to Trips. Beating Orton after a month of his run ws very very dumb.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 29, 2018 15:56:43 GMT -5
Thign to me is, there's a big risk-reward factor here. Yeah, they're probably getting a TON of cash to do this, and that's great. It expands their market, theoretically, assuming anything beyond this show is available to the general public there. If not...then it does nothing to grow business. The downside of course is that they run shows there, with the limitations they are given (and those limitations will go up after the ad they aired that got them so much heat), what affect will it have on the oh so important casual and non-fan markets in other counties who might look at it and say "wait the company is doing this thing in a place where what many of us hold as important is held back, so we should support this company with money while they work with a system we think is bad". That won't make the non-fans jump on board and give them money. So what they get from the Saudis has to outweigh what they might lose in every other market they have based on their decision. Big soccer teams take questionable money all the time to no effect on their fanbase.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 27, 2018 15:01:24 GMT -5
Whole lotta scrubs early on here. I suppose it’s not practical for any company to have 50 main event level stars on the books. We might get Kane and then Kane without a mask. And then Kane with the full body suit.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 25, 2018 20:21:07 GMT -5
You know, the way WWE performers complain about their schedule and travel, I bet the women are actually pretty happy to have a weekend off. They won't when they see the paycheck.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 23, 2018 11:27:17 GMT -5
Why are you towing the company line when you aren't even there? Because he can truly believe it.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 20, 2018 6:49:21 GMT -5
Those matchup can just be TV feuds then.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 20, 2018 6:46:18 GMT -5
There is no such thing as easy money when gambling.
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